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  • DrEll
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Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by boast:
never heard any current or former players complain about Kyle. he's highly regarded by the leaders on the team. especially Trent Williams. i'll take Trent's opinion over some poster who can't articulate his criticisms other than saying "im not the only one who thinks that way" congrats bro you and Grant Cohn share a bond. lol.

"I think Jimmy G is awesome," he said. "I think he has proven that he's a quarterback you can win with. In this league, it's just hard to find. Having a quarterback that you know is gonna make the right read, the right throw, that has to allow Kyle (Shanahan), a chance to sleep at night."

-Trent Williams

no lies detected in Trent's words.

you otoh have ZERO credibility on this forum. not sure why you still continue to post.

To disprove your facts.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by boast:
never heard any current or former players complain about Kyle. he's highly regarded by the leaders on the team. especially Trent Williams. i'll take Trent's opinion over some poster who can't articulate his criticisms other than saying "im not the only one who thinks that way" congrats bro you and Grant Cohn share a bond. lol.

"I think Jimmy G is awesome," he said. "I think he has proven that he's a quarterback you can win with. In this league, it's just hard to find. Having a quarterback that you know is gonna make the right read, the right throw, that has to allow Kyle (Shanahan), a chance to sleep at night."

-Trent Williams

no lies detected in Trent's words.

you otoh have ZERO credibility on this forum. not sure why you still continue to post.

To disprove your facts.

thanks for posting that you dont know what that means, DrL

Trent's 2020 opinion was completely valid.
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by boast:
never heard any current or former players complain about Kyle. he's highly regarded by the leaders on the team. especially Trent Williams. i'll take Trent's opinion over some poster who can't articulate his criticisms other than saying "im not the only one who thinks that way" congrats bro you and Grant Cohn share a bond. lol.

"I think Jimmy G is awesome," he said. "I think he has proven that he's a quarterback you can win with. In this league, it's just hard to find. Having a quarterback that you know is gonna make the right read, the right throw, that has to allow Kyle (Shanahan), a chance to sleep at night."

-Trent Williams

no lies detected in Trent's words.

you otoh have ZERO credibility on this forum. not sure why you still continue to post.

To disprove your facts.

thanks for posting that you dont know what that means, DrL

Trent's 2020 opinion was completely valid.

He's completely clueless. When he posted a couple days ago that we should trade BA to a bottom feeder team and let him be their problem, showed he only understands Madden football.
There is a legitimate chance that we have 5 future Hall of Famers on the roster right now. Trent, Kittle, Warner, CMC, and Bosa. We have to close a SB title before they're gone…
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
You said he has faults... tell me what they are? It's that simple. Again I have examples where he is viewed as a narcissist. I'm not the only one that shares that view point.

But I'm not gonna waste my time with you going forward, if you want to hide behind your opinion of Kyle. You're just trying to argue, to argue.

So, once again... you said "of course he has his faults". What are they? How well do you know your Coach/team?

There are also plenty of examples or people saying he's very collaborative and a team HC.

Of course. I'm not saying he's a horrible leader or a horrible coach. And my mistake, I shouldn't have said straight narcissist, more so has shown narcissist traits.

The problem with Kyle is (was?) even when it seemed he tried to evolve as a Head Coach, when the pressure was there.. he fell back to his bad habits.

So that is what started this whole conversation. I feel when you have a unique player (in this case, someone who is way faster than your other players...those other players who are built similar), he shouldn't have to beat out someone in practice get a chance to help the team.

Watkins shouldn't have to beat out a vet like Bourne or Robinson in practice, to just get a deep pass thrown his way in a real game... these were the games to see what that player can bring to the offense.

If a team in the playoffs shuts down Jennings... and then Jennings gets hurt.. and in comes Bourne. Chances are the same routes you are going to tell Bourne to run, he will get shut down as well. I'm just saying we should be more versatile heading into the playoffs. So we can....*gasp* adjust if needed.

We don't have dynamic wrs like Deebo or Aiyuk anymore going against the legit teams come playoff time. Maybe Pearsall can be that player, but he seems to still not be 100% and was also chased down on Sunday.

Edit- and yes there will be a difference between what we've seen from the Rams and Seahawks during the regular season, and what we'll see from them in the playoffs...if we face them. Same with the Bears, who we'll see in a few weeks. The real s**t comes out, come playoff time.

Lol I am also on the blocked list and I consider it a badge of honor lol. Also, I don't have to see kinda cray cray retaliation if I do not agree lol

I can't take anything this poster says srsly after calling Shanny a narcissistic alcoholic lol. Then an attempt to backtrack.. "Oh, I meant narcissistic traits." Like that makes a difference lol. Any examples? "Other ppl feel that way too." Who? "Other ppl."

Like that poster who was saying Kyle was an alcoholic every other post for a while? Is that the reference? Lol didn't they teach you "in med school", feelings aren't facts? Lol.

Kyle hasn't evolved (or even really tried to lol) as a head coach when the pressure is there. Really? Lol we have had everything going against us this year and we are 10-4, gtfo with that s**t lol. If we are talking pressure in SBs, then maybe I can see a point but this was suggested in a broader way. If one can't see that Kyle has had finesse in his performance this year, then you're blind.
[ Edited by Montana on Dec 17, 2025 at 11:26 AM ]
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Folks have to remember what Kyle's strategy was. He was playing for the third possession in OT. He said it himself. That was the reason he went against the analytics, went against every coach(college) before him, he outsmarted himself once again... he thought Andy Reid and the f**king Chiefs would have the same mindset as him...

But Andy Reid and the team had already stated before the season (when discussing new playoff OT rules) if they were in that possession there would NOT be a third possession..and they would go for the win with a 2pt conversion.

I mean do you think they want to face the 9er offesne of CMC, Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, yes even Juice.. when all you need is 10 yards, and you have 4 downs to get them... especially that late in the game? Na....

That is why they were happy as s**t that it is THEIR offense that were given 4 downs, with F'n Mahomes at QB and Reid at playcaller...

You call plays differently on first and 2nd down, because you know you have 4th down. And that can also be a strategic advantage...

Again, although I grew up never watching my team lose a Super Bowl... I understand you are also facing the best team on the other of the league. I understand they want to win bad as well. So if we lost, it would be a bad feeling... but it's the Chiefs and Pat Mahomes.. or maybe some other team. BUT the way we have lost these Super Bowl (and even the Rams title game) f**king drives me nuts... all too similar with us having a lead...not converting 1st downs with our high powered offense + offensive genius HC) to get key conversions to keep the clock running. Ok kudos for those opposing teams for fighting their way back... but now we can make up from those past performances with winning the Super Bowl with a stack team (that we kow we wouldn't have for much longer)... but in OT Kyle f**ks up. He f**ked up...the staff who told him to kick knows he f**ked up... the players (many who were playing injured) know he f**ked up. John knows he f**ked up.. hell Kyle's Dad knows he f**ked up. But you get the feeling no one wants to hurt his fragile ego....and all have to play along around him like that didn't happen.

Anyway I don't might facing hard truths like this in the middle of the week, even if it comes off as negative vibes to a winning season, but obviously gametime it's all positive vibes.

Once again you talk with fiction as if they were facts. Any decent point you may make after starting off like that becomes useless.

1. He didn't go against analytics
2. College football has nothing to do with new rules in the NFL Superbowl.

He also wasn't playing for the 3rd possession. He took the ball IF the 3rd possession happened which would be sudden death, the 49ers would be the ones who would have it.

The Chiefs can say whatever they want because they won the game. We don't know what actually would've happened if the 49ers scored the TD if Burford even attempts to block Chris Jones. Maybe we hold the Chiefs from scoring a TD and win the SB and nobody questions Kyle's decision to take the ball. Maybe the Chiefs still score their TD but we'll never know if they would've actually went for the 2pt conversion.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
You said he has faults... tell me what they are? It's that simple. Again I have examples where he is viewed as a narcissist. I'm not the only one that shares that view point.

But I'm not gonna waste my time with you going forward, if you want to hide behind your opinion of Kyle. You're just trying to argue, to argue.

So, once again... you said "of course he has his faults". What are they? How well do you know your Coach/team?

No sir, it's not.

YOU made the absurd comment not only calling Kyle a narcissist but indicating he has a drinking problem and then you're expecting other people to back up YOUR claim?

You make a statement then you better back it up when asked about it.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by boast:
never heard any current or former players complain about Kyle. he's highly regarded by the leaders on the team. especially Trent Williams. i'll take Trent's opinion over some poster who can't articulate his criticisms other than saying "im not the only one who thinks that way" congrats bro you and Grant Cohn share a bond. lol.

"I think Jimmy G is awesome," he said. "I think he has proven that he's a quarterback you can win with. In this league, it's just hard to find. Having a quarterback that you know is gonna make the right read, the right throw, that has to allow Kyle (Shanahan), a chance to sleep at night."

-Trent Williams

no lies detected in Trent's words.

you otoh have ZERO credibility on this forum. not sure why you still continue to post.

To disprove your facts.


Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by DrEll:
McDermott will be fired within the next 2 seasons guaranteed if the Bills don't win it. Their fans aren't as fickle as ours, celebrating 2nd place trophies as crowning achievements.

Ok. Give me one example of someone celebrating losing the SB as a crowning achievement. I'm tired of you spamming the board with this garbage. If you can find it then you can keep going.

If you can't then you take a break. How's that sound?

DrEll,

I'm still waiting.

...Still waiting. Seems like you keep missing this one somehow.
There's a difference between celebrating a 2nd place finish and being happy that we at least made it to the SB. Of course fans are upset when we lose but that doesn't take away from the fun of getting that far. Making it to the SB means we won the NFC title which is no small feat. I seriously doubt if any 49er fans went out and celebrated after those losses to KC.
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

It's good to have a healthy CMC too
Originally posted by genus49:
Once again you talk with fiction as if they were facts. Any decent point you may make after starting off like that becomes useless.

1. He didn't go against analytics
2. College football has nothing to do with new rules in the NFL Superbowl.

He also wasn't playing for the 3rd possession. He took the ball IF the 3rd possession happened which would be sudden death, the 49ers would be the ones who would have it.

The Chiefs can say whatever they want because they won the game. We don't know what actually would've happened if the 49ers scored the TD if Burford even attempts to block Chris Jones. Maybe we hold the Chiefs from scoring a TD and win the SB and nobody questions Kyle's decision to take the ball. Maybe the Chiefs still score their TD but we'll never know if they would've actually went for the 2pt conversion.

That was a fluky game, obviously, with CMC's fumble (with Kittle yapping away at the LB who recovered it), Luter on ST, and Greenlaw snapping his achilles on the sidelines. Just one or two of these three things don't happen almost 99% chance we win the game. Btw, why didn't we put Warner on Kelce after Greenlaw went out? Would have messed up the scheme too much?
[ Edited by 49erKing on Dec 17, 2025 at 7:54 AM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
There's a difference between celebrating a 2nd place finish and being happy that we at least made it to the SB. Of course fans are upset when we lose but that doesn't take away from the fun of getting that far. Making it to the SB means we won the NFC title which is no small feat. I seriously doubt if any 49er fans went out and celebrated after those losses to KC.

And that's my point. Nobody celebrated those losses. But people are allowed to enjoy the journey there even if the end result is failure.

This is a 49ers message board after all. Nobody has to praise every move the franchise does but putting down fans for not being miserable isn't going to fly either. Either the man shows someone actually doing what he's claiming or he needs to stop those narratives.
Originally posted by 49erKing:
That was a fluky game, obviously, with CMC's fumble (with Kittle yapping away at the LB who recovered it), Luter on ST, and Greenlaw snapping his achilles on the sidelines. Just one or two of these three things don't happen almost 99% chance we win the game. Btw, why didn't we put Warner on Kelce after Greenlaw went out? Would have messed up the scheme too much?

Yes. You can't have your best player on defense basically shadowing their TE. The Chiefs would catch on to that very quickly and make it even worse.

Also you left out the biggest culprit in that SB - McCloud.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
That was a fluky game, obviously, with CMC's fumble (with Kittle yapping away at the LB who recovered it), Luter on ST, and Greenlaw snapping his achilles on the sidelines. Just one or two of these three things don't happen almost 99% chance we win the game. Btw, why didn't we put Warner on Kelce after Greenlaw went out? Would have messed up the scheme too much?

Yes. You can't have your best player on defense basically shadowing their TE. The Chiefs would catch on to that very quickly and make it even worse.

Also you left out the biggest culprit in that SB - McCloud.

Sheezus - forgot about that. Two ST miscues. And I just remembered we didn't have Azeez that year..
[ Edited by 49erKing on Dec 17, 2025 at 8:01 AM ]
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