49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Full agree with Charles Woodson here. Kyle Shanahan is Andy Reid before Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/GBkcrv8Qma

— Juice TD Tracker (1) (@TheJuiceTDGuy) December 9, 2025

That's actually a good point.

This is not Purdy hate just a thought experiment.

could you imagine if KS had Josh Allen or Mahomes? wow.

Like I heard in the radio on who is better Shanahan or McVay?

McVay has only coached 1st overall picks, he's never had anything less. Goff, Stafford and Mayfield. Now look at what Shanahan has had to work with, 2nd round pick in Jimmy G., Brock Purdy, revitalized the careers of Sam Darnold and Mac Jones.

Shanahan has done more with less.

Goff is meh, I agree, on the Niners, he would likely do better. Glad we didn't get Stafford cause f that guy. And Mayfield, improving but idk probably would have grown as qb faster here. Jones and Sam, of course, 1st rounders but seemed to blossom here. But no coach can help Sam with the ghost issues.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

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That's actually a good point.

This is not Purdy hate just a thought experiment.

could you imagine if KS had Josh Allen or Mahomes? wow.

Allen had to develop and even Mahomes sat a year. Kyle doesn't develop raw QBs (we've seen him try and it was ugly). He's not Andy at all and the McNabb incident proves it

Feliciano was doing an interview and he said their calls on the Bills are very simple, like 2 words. There's no guarantee a raw prospect like Allen develops while trying to learn footwork and an overly complicated system

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Like I heard in the radio on who is better Shanahan or McVay?

McVay has only coached 1st overall picks, he's never had anything less. Goff, Stafford and Mayfield. Now look at what Shanahan has had to work with, 2nd round pick in Jimmy G., Brock Purdy, revitalized the careers of Sam Darnold and Mac Jones.

Shanahan has done more with less.

It's all 1st and 2nd rounders except Brock lol, and Brock would do fine with McVay

No credit to McVay for "reviving" Bakers career (even though he gives McVay the credit) but all credit to Kyle for Darnolds turnaround when all he did here was lose to Wentz (and he always gives Brock more credit for his turnaround)

Sam on Brock, "To be able to learn from him ... and the way that he played was eye-opening for me."

Just remember, Kyle tries to fit these guys into his system instead of building an offense around them. I really don't think Mahomes or Allen are what they are today if Kyle got his hands on them as rookies

If Shanahan isn't coach of the year, especially if we make the playoffs, this s**t is rigged. Any other team that loses the caliber of players the niners have this year and stays competitive is blessed with great coaching.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

If Shanahan isn't coach of the year, especially if we make the playoffs, this s**t is rigged. Any other team that loses the caliber of players the niners have this year and stays competitive is blessed with great coaching.

I think it's hard to give it to him when you could argue his d coordinator has been more impressive. It's like when CMC and Brock were cancelling each other out for mvp a couple years ago

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
If Shanahan isn't coach of the year, especially if we make the playoffs, this s**t is rigged. Any other team that loses the caliber of players the niners have this year and stays competitive is blessed with great coaching.

For me he's in the top 3 for sure. Even with our injuries I still think we have more talent than NE yet Vrable is sitting 11-2. Carolina is tied with TB for division lead and they have 2 games vs each other. If Carolina wins that division that coach should be COTY hands down.

If they dont it's s toss up between Shanny and Vrable in my opinion. It all depends on how the last 4 weeks play out.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
There's literally a dozen things that can be pointed out on both sides of the ball in both SBs that lead to the loses that were outside of "coaching" it's absolutely lazy to say it was mostly on the HC.

one thing I will agree with is it's in the past and we've talked about it over and over in detail.

There is blame on Shanny for those losses. You can call it lazy idc, I say it is common sense.

It's lazy as s**t, you think he told CMC to fumble in the RZ, his kicker to miss and kick, greenlaw/our starting RG to get hurt, Bosa to eat on a 4th down read option, muff a punt etc etc.

players are the ones actually on the field. They're the ones making a f**k ton of money to play a game…I mean does Kyle get credit for BA catching a fumbling deep ball vs the lions? No he doesn't, why? Because he didn't actually make the play.

blaming coaching for W/L is some of the laziest annoying analysis a fan can make…be totally different if he didn't have his team prepared to win every week (which he does). Coaching is about building culture, X's and O's and putting a great staff/roster around you. No one can say he sucks there.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's all 1st and 2nd rounders except Brock lol, and Brock would do fine with McVay

No credit to McVay for "reviving" Bakers career (even though he gives McVay the credit) but all credit to Kyle for Darnolds turnaround when all he did here was lose to Wentz (and he always gives Brock more credit for his turnaround)

Sam on Brock, "To be able to learn from him ... and the way that he played was eye-opening for me."

lol so shocked that you think Brock revived Sam's career but not Kyle….nevermind he actually said this…

Sam Darnold views his year with Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers as incredibly valuable,

praising Shanahan as one of football's brightest offensive minds, emphasizing how learning to read defenses and understand scheme from him was "eye-opening,"

Originally posted by krizay:
For me he's in the top 3 for sure. Even with our injuries I still think we have more talent than NE yet Vrable is sitting 11-2. Carolina is tied with TB for division lead and they have 2 games vs each other. If Carolina wins that division that coach should be COTY hands down.

If they dont it's s toss up between Shanny and Vrable in my opinion. It all depends on how the last 4 weeks play out.

IMO Johnson or Vrable win it because they're first yr HCs on teams that have been s**t for a while. If you look at the DVOA schedule/rankings the Pats have played a bunch of nothing this yr though. Bears have no real victories and SF plays in the best division in football.

kyle won't win it though because of what I said earlier. He has expectations now because he's had this team winning for a while

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Full agree with Charles Woodson here. Kyle Shanahan is Andy Reid before Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/GBkcrv8Qma

— Juice TD Tracker (1) (@TheJuiceTDGuy) December 9, 2025

That's actually a good point.

This is not Purdy hate just a thought experiment.

could you imagine if KS had Josh Allen or Mahomes? wow.

Like I heard in the radio on who is better Shanahan or McVay?

McVay has only coached 1st overall picks, he's never had anything less. Goff, Stafford and Mayfield. Now look at what Shanahan has had to work with, 2nd round pick in Jimmy G., Brock Purdy, revitalized the careers of Sam Darnold and Mac Jones.

Shanahan has done more with less.

Knocking Super Bowl winning HC's to prop poor Kyle up?

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Full agree with Charles Woodson here. Kyle Shanahan is Andy Reid before Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/GBkcrv8Qma

— Juice TD Tracker (1) (@TheJuiceTDGuy) December 9, 2025

I find it funny how everyone has just forgotten that Donovan McNabb was one of the best QBs throughout the 2000s

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
For me he's in the top 3 for sure. Even with our injuries I still think we have more talent than NE yet Vrable is sitting 11-2. Carolina is tied with TB for division lead and they have 2 games vs each other. If Carolina wins that division that coach should be COTY hands down.

If they dont it's s toss up between Shanny and Vrable in my opinion. It all depends on how the last 4 weeks play out.

IMO Johnson or Vrable win it because they're first yr HCs on teams that have been s**t for a while. If you look at the DVOA schedule/rankings the Pats have played a bunch of nothing this yr though. Bears have no real victories and SF plays in the best division in football.

kyle won't win it though because of what I said earlier. He has expectations now because he's had this team winning for a while

I can see Vrable winning for 2 reraqsons. One he's done a goood job. The other reason is there are more sportswriters in the eastern part of th the country so there's always a little bias. Same as with the Heismann award.

Originally posted by krizay:
For me he's in the top 3 for sure. Even with our injuries I still think we have more talent than NE yet Vrable is sitting 11-2. Carolina is tied with TB for division lead and they have 2 games vs each other. If Carolina wins that division that coach should be COTY hands down.

If they dont it's s toss up between Shanny and Vrable in my opinion. It all depends on how the last 4 weeks play out.

Patriots have had a next level easy schedule.