49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Koldo:
Are you saying that having a competent GM does make a difference?

Im saying having the best GM in the business makes a difference. Roseman is head and shoulders above everyone else.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
He's just the Tony Romo of coaches. Good enough to win but not good enough to carry you to a SB win.

He will always make some sort of backbreaking terrible challenge, wasted timeout, mismanage by relying too much on a player coming back from injury, or giving the ball right back to a player after a long run, or dumb play call like having the wrong personnel block or go out for a pass.

Just enough to negate any talent advantage and choke the game away against SB contending teams.

Also the team can't run the hurry up offense or understand how to correctly play from behind so its always going to end up choking away a playoff game of some sort.

The total amount of "clean" games I can recall where none of the above occurred is less than a dozen and that's out of a hundred+ games.

It's really bad now how much we are still trying to run the offense through mcaffrey when he's obviously lost a step as well.

Tony Romo never made it to the NFCCG let alone the SB. Once again...you guys gotta work on your analogies.

Literally none of these things you posted in the bold above happened or led to us losing either SB.

Like seriously what do you guys actually watch? Just straight up nonsense and absurd narratives. Like who should Kyle run the offense through with a backup QB, missing our top 2 WRs and Kittle out most of the season?

There's nothing absurd about it. Romos career win loss is 80-53 kyles is 84-69.

They both have the same amount of SB wins.

It's posts like yours that make me think of why people think shanahan is so great.

Let me translate this into direct examples for you so you do not have to think that I'm just giving you vague nonsense.

Not challenging the AJ Brown catch in the eagles game which was a drop flipped the entire game. Then trying to block Reddick with a 4th string tight end ended our SB run. Let's move forward. You knew CMC would likely have a fumble in the SB. He was coming back from injury and it was obvious he was overdue to have a backbreaking play. Not knowing the rules in overtime In The second chiefs loss.

Let's go back to the first SB loss. The guy doesn't know how to manage the clock. Everybody cries about the Sanders overthrow by Jimmy g. It doesn't even matter if he caught it. That play call was so stupid. Let's say he catches it and gets a TD. You leave mahomes 1:45 left to get a fg and win the game. It's just throwing a down away and not knowing how to manage the clock...

There's 4 examples right there for you of poor coaching. That's not even including the veteran bias of not running Mason down the chiefs throat even through he was averaging 5ypc...

He's just good enough to choke. Just like romo.

And posts like yours shows me that casual fans shouldn't act like they're speaking facts and everyone else is wrong.

The catch was by Devonta Smith and nobody on the field yelled for Kyle that it was incomplete. You can't expect a coach to see everything when the refs on the field and the players around him didn't see it either. However the NFL office should've overturned that play but claimed they didn't have the proper angle which is a complete joke - you're blaming Kyle for it though.

Blocking Reddick with a 3rd string TE(you don't need to change things to make it seem worse) wasn't anything ridiculous. The play was there to be made. Aiyuk was open. Kyle can't call a timeout every time the opposing team moves their players into favorable spots. The players have to make it work and Brock would've hit that play 10 out of 10 times in 2023 because he learned from that single play to either step up in the pocket or throw with anticipation. He hesitated, Reddick didn't react to the fake at all(cuz he hunts sacks which is why Eagles let him go) not to mention it was an incredibly fluke like injury. He hits him a half second earlier or later and it's just a fumble at worst.

CMC would likely have a fumble in the SB? Like seriously what are you even talking about? Sure he didn't have a fumble in the 2 playoff games he played after a small injury which wouldn't have kept him out of any games that mattered but 3 games later Kyle shouldn't have used CMC at all cuz clearly he was going to fumble.

Like honestly I started responding to your post as I read it and i'm realizing you're in a whole other level of insanity. A playcall to get a lead in the SB is stupid because you leave too much time on the clock? It was 3rd and 10!!!

My god man...

OK let's say they fire Lynch and make Kyle beholden.

How's Peters doing in Washington? He was the key guy that was the answer right?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
OK let's say they fire Lynch and make Kyle beholden.

How's Peters doing in Washington? He was the key guy that was the answer right?

If they fire Lynch (No way they do), they will let Shanahan choose the next GM. I have no doubt about it. And it would probably be someone that's in-house. But IMO, that's not the right way to go.

But as for Peters, shoot didn't he put together a playoff contender his second season there? Or was it his first?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So which one is it? The Shanahan fans want you to believe that this s**t show is Lynch's fault. Now you're telling me that the rams haven't drafted well and mcvay is taking s**t drafts and winning over and over again. Which one is it? Mcvay takes what he has and wins. No name tight ends were running circles around them. Shanahan needs all pros at every level to reach a superbowl and cant even win one with a loaded roster.

Last I checked the rams have rebuilt their team after winning a superbowl while the niners look like ass.

From aaron donald:

"What's up with all these 49ers fans y'all mad y'all still living off y'all last Super Bowl win in 1995 haha. Y'all know my resume. Let me be."

What an embarrassment. This franchise used to be the elite. Now it's a laughing stock.

The priority is to win a superbowl. You can't win a superbowl if you don't draft well. The niners do not draft well. They failed to buuld a quality roster.

Just look at the rams and seahawks drafts. It's embarrassing in comparison.

The bolded above was your initial post, in which you said the Niners don't draft well in comparison to the Rams.

This point was disputed based on the other poster's overview/comparison of the Niners and Rams' drafts. It is, in fact, not embarassing by comparison.

Instead of acknowledging that you were incorrect, you're now saying McVay is capable of winning with poor drafts? Their roster was obviously supplemented by some excellent FA/trades (Stafford, Von Miller, Adams, Ramsey, etc.).

You clearly have an agenda and are incapable of contributing to an actual discussion. Clearly it's time for you to root for another team when Aaron f**king Donald tweets have you crying about us being a laughingstock. Go on, then.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Im saying having the best GM in the business makes a difference. Roseman is head and shoulders above everyone else.

Not sure about that, but will say Roseman is right about his & the team's philosophy of the importance of building up the trenches and winning in the trenches.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
If they fire Lynch (No way they do), they will let Shanahan choose the next GM. I have no doubt about it. And it would probably be someone that's in-house. But IMO, that's not the right way to go.

But as for Peters, shoot didn't he put together a playoff contender his second season there? Or was it his first?

And now they are looking at a 6 or 7 win season. Not all unlike the guy they want fired did last year.

Much like with Shanahan the default assumption is things will get better firing Lynch.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Not sure about that, but will say Roseman is right about his & the team's philosophy of the importance of building up the trenches and winning in the trenches.

Goes beyond that. Has invested a lot in secondary and skill positions too.

I don't see anyone close to what he's done the last decade as GM overall in terms of talent acquisition.

When you can win SBs with subpar coaching that says a lot.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So which one is it? The Shanahan fans want you to believe that this s**t show is Lynch's fault. Now you're telling me that the rams haven't drafted well and mcvay is taking s**t drafts and winning over and over again. Which one is it? Mcvay takes what he has and wins. No name tight ends were running circles around them. Shanahan needs all pros at every level to reach a superbowl and cant even win one with a loaded roster.

Last I checked the rams have rebuilt their team after winning a superbowl while the niners look like ass.

From aaron donald:

"What's up with all these 49ers fans y'all mad y'all still living off y'all last Super Bowl win in 1995 haha. Y'all know my resume. Let me be."

What an embarrassment. This franchise used to be the elite. Now it's a laughing stock.

Laughing stock? Only in your eyes. And these are the eyes that say, with ridiculous levels of injury, that the team look like ass.

I dont care about injuries. That's an excuse. This is two years in a row and something like 5 out 8 years under shanahan. Its a pattern The only time the niners do well under Shanahan is when the roster is 100% healthy. The team is hanging onto aging players and don't have the young depth because of shameful drafting and because of the lance debacle. The rams are smart. They shipped off Cooper kupp knowing he was over the hill. Bill Walsh stated once that it was better to get rid of a player one year to early than one year too late. Shanahan has a different philosophy. He holds onto old players and plays favorites. The oline is trash. Our franchise qb is injury prone and isn't in the same league as some other qbs. We have an over the hill rb who only functions as a wide receiver. The secondary is complete trash outside of lenoir. The linebackers are garbage outside of warner. Williams is looking only serviceable but not worth a high first. Bosa is great when he is playing, which is never. They are last in sacks and interceptions.

Yet they'll still make the playoffs because of their s**t schedule, and all the shanafans will tell how great he did with an injured roster and we will be stuck his mediocre loser coaching for another 10 years because the fans are content with it and yorks pockets are full.

/rant.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I dont care about injuries. That's an excuse. This is two years in a row and something like 5 out 8 years under shanahan. Its a pattern The only time the niners do well under Shanahan is when the roster is 100% healthy. The team is hanging onto aging players and don't have the young depth because of shameful drafting and because of the lance debacle. The rams are smart. They shipped off Cooper kupp knowing he was over the hill. Bill Walsh stated once that it was better to get rid of a player one year to early than one year too late. Shanahan has a different philosophy. He holds onto old players and plays favorites. The oline is trash. Our franchise qb is injury prone and isn't in the same league as some other qbs. We have an over the hill rb who only functions as a wide receiver. The secondary is complete trash outside of lenoir. The linebackers are garbage outside of warner. Williams is looking only serviceable but not worth a high first. Bosa is great when he is playing, which is never. They are last in sacks and interceptions.

Yet they'll still make the playoffs because of their s**t schedule, and all the shanafans will tell how great he did with an injured roster and we will be stuck his mediocre loser coaching for another 10 years because the fans are content with it and yorks pockets are full.

/rant.

Just admit you don't actually follow the Rams, lol.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Just admit you don't actually follow the Rams, lol.

He doesn't know anything about them. Why he couldn't respond to Mike and spun back into well McVay won the SB.

It's all rinse and repeat from the same old trolls.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
These guys would have stuck with Marty Schottenheimer for 25 years and would have said the giants would have replaced Bill Parcells with him.

Do you want people to take you seriously when you say stuff like this? Or you simply looking to get a reaction?

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Earnest Jones, Tutu Atwell, Braden Fiske, Terrance Ferguson, Kamren Kinchens, Blake Corum, Joseph Noteboom.

I know I'm missing some but I'm not a Rams fan. But all those I mentioned play a part or have been solid for them.

Earnest Jones plays for Seattle now...
Tutu Atwell was a 2nd round pick whose best season was 562 yards receiving with 0 TDs. His highest TD total in a season was 3.
Ferguson is a rookie who has 138 yards on the season.
Corum is up to 587 total yards and 1 TD through his NFL career so far
Notebloom has been decent depth/fill in starter

These are not all pros or pro bowlers, at least yet. If we're hyping up guys like that for them then 49ers should get props for drafting the following

DJ Jones
Mike McGlinchey
Ahkello Witherspoon
DJ Reed
Elijah Mitchell
Jaylon Moore
Aaron Banks

And they certainly should get credit for the guys contributing this year if you're going to add someone like Ferguson to the Rams list.

And that's the reality when you start looking into draft classes.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So which one is it? The Shanahan fans want you to believe that this s**t show is Lynch's fault. Now you're telling me that the rams haven't drafted well and mcvay is taking s**t drafts and winning over and over again. Which one is it? Mcvay takes what he has and wins. No name tight ends were running circles around them. Shanahan needs all pros at every level to reach a superbowl and cant even win one with a loaded roster.

Last I checked the rams have rebuilt their team after winning a superbowl while the niners look like ass.

From aaron donald:

"What's up with all these 49ers fans y'all mad y'all still living off y'all last Super Bowl win in 1995 haha. Y'all know my resume. Let me be."

What an embarrassment. This franchise used to be the elite. Now it's a laughing stock.

First of all...Sean McVay couldn't get it done with Jared Goff a guy drafted #1 overall. Lucky for him one of their guys was hired as the GM for the Lions and they were able to offload that contract and bought himself Matt Stafford - another #1 overall pick and they still needed to bring in Von Miller and OBJ to get them over the hump and that was with Tartt dropping a Stafford pick and us unable to pick up a 2nd and short.

But here you are - McVay doing it all himself apparently...

What's his record without Stafford? Aaron Donald can run his mouth all he wants. They got a cakewalk opponent in the SB and still needed refs to help them close it out. He's got a losing record vs the 49ers.

And no name TEs? Just tell us you don't know who they are. Higbee has been in the league for 10 yards. Parkinson has been around for 6 years - both in the NFC West but you don't know them so they're no name TEs. Ferguson was a mid 2nd round pick. Meanwhile our defense lost a ton up front on top of missing our best defensive player and best linebacker in the league and suddenly you're shocked we had a tough time stopping 13 personnel with Matt Stafford running it?

so in short, everyone still believe SHANNY will get us the next ring??