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49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread
Feb 3, 2020 at 8:54 PM
- TyCore
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Shanny taking up the mantle from Reid is a frightening prospect.
Feb 3, 2020 at 8:55 PM
- LVJay
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Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
Don't think Kyle recovers from this catastrophe. Also, if we are in this position again do we trust Kyle? Heck no! This isn't something you "learn from" this is him as a play caller. This is honestly unacceptable!
Andy Reid says hi.
Well he faced his younger clone so something had to give
Younger clone? So, that filthy walrus was anorexic at one point of its existence
Feb 3, 2020 at 8:55 PM
- Seansf49
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Originally posted by socalfan21:Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:Don't think Kyle recovers from this catastrophe. Also, if we are in this position again do we trust Kyle? Heck no! This isn't something you "learn from" this is him as a play caller. This is honestly unacceptable!
Andy Reid says hi.
Well he faced his younger clone so something had to give
[ Edited by Seansf49 on Feb 3, 2020 at 8:55 PM ]
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:02 PM
- NinerPrideinNJ
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Originally posted by Seansf49:Originally posted by socalfan21:Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:Don't think Kyle recovers from this catastrophe. Also, if we are in this position again do we trust Kyle? Heck no! This isn't something you "learn from" this is him as a play caller. This is honestly unacceptable!
Andy Reid says hi.
Well he faced his younger clone so something had to give
Plus does anyone wanna wait 20 something years for his redemption. Guy panic picks plays at the end like the fantasy football clock is running out after the guy in front of you took the player you targeted.
He's a great coach but he is a choker
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:03 PM
- frankieuc68
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https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Kyle-Shanahan-assistants-tirade-Super-Bowl-LIV-NFL-15013539.php
I was just checking out this article a few days ago at Nick Mullens thread that one of you guys posted and today a few media was talking about how Jimmy G was not throwing to some open receivers during the game. Is Shanahan basically just controlling or hand cuffing Jimmy G like a robot and wouldn't let him ad lib or throw to open receivers? Anyway I'm sure it has nothing to do with this game and maybe Jimmy G just missed them with all the chaos around him. But I'm also trying to get to know how and what Shanahan's mindset regarding his relationship with his QB and coaches. Last night and today sucks as I'm just trying to find something to hang on to regarding the 4th quarter collapse..
I was just checking out this article a few days ago at Nick Mullens thread that one of you guys posted and today a few media was talking about how Jimmy G was not throwing to some open receivers during the game. Is Shanahan basically just controlling or hand cuffing Jimmy G like a robot and wouldn't let him ad lib or throw to open receivers? Anyway I'm sure it has nothing to do with this game and maybe Jimmy G just missed them with all the chaos around him. But I'm also trying to get to know how and what Shanahan's mindset regarding his relationship with his QB and coaches. Last night and today sucks as I'm just trying to find something to hang on to regarding the 4th quarter collapse..
[ Edited by frankieuc68 on Feb 3, 2020 at 10:26 PM ]
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:03 PM
- Sculbers
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Originally posted by Rascal:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Reggie Bush breaks down why San Francisco's loss was '100% on Kyle Shanahan' | NFL | UNDISPUTED
Who listens to that trash? Might as well watch Jerry springer
He is correct 100%. Listen to it. Both him and Shannon Sharp say it and Skip Bayless too.
Not only them, basically 99% of the world saw it, period!!
The point is this, Kyle Shanahan has a tendency to crap in his pants in the most critical and high pressure situations. Granted a lot of people crack under pressure, but that says Kyle Shanahan just isn't that exceptional superman head coach with ice in his veins who can perform his job in the biggest stage.
Marcus Spears made a very good point in Get Up today, Kyle Shanahan is no different to Andy Reid before he won the Super Bowl. Andy Reid got a ton of flak for years. We and the media also have been giving Kyle Shanahan a ton of praise and credit for how the 9ers played this season. Most people are fair, we give where credit is due. I am pretty sure Kyle has been enjoying the love too. But, here is the thing, when you crap in your pants in your second Super Bowl in a row, he needs to be criticized just the same.
Folks, there is just no other way to say it, Kyle Shanahan lost us this Super Bowl. When he thought he was being calm and collected, he was wasting time on the clock, not using timeouts to score like before the end of the 1st half. When the Chiefs' D started coming batting down Jimmy G's throws, he kept calling pass plays. Furthermore, when the 9ers were up 20-10 and having intercepted Mahomes, he went away from the run and did not put his foot down to close the deal!! To date, Kyle Shanahan has blown 2 Super Bowls already.
The homers can shut up here, we are not being armchair coaches here, even fxxking John Lynch thought we needed to call timeout before the half for cry out loud!!! That says it all!!!
Of course no one is saying Kyle Shanahan is all bad. We can play with the numbers, may be 75% good and 25% bad. To me, he is fantastic in play design, but his decision-making and playcalling leaves a lot to be desired. And this glaring weakness of his doesn't just get progressively, but exponentially worse in critical moments and in the biggest of games. I am not here to say what we should do with Kyle Shanahan, at least not yet, but rather to say by now we need to know to the fullest extent of what we are dealing with here in terms of Kyle Shanahan as a whole package. Do we take the good over the bad? May be? Do we need to replace him at some point if his 4th quarter collapses carry on? May be? But, at the very least, we need to start thinking about it. On that note, we have been hearing talks of contract extension already, given there are still 3 years left in the existing deal, do we slow it down or even take it off the table for now? May be? Surely, you are not going to give him another 6 years with 3 years to go on his first contract after this Super Bowl collapse right? So, there is definitely a lot to think about here.
But, for now, we need to change that initial and perhaps mis-perception of Kyle Shanahan as being an "offensive genius" to a more accurate one namely an "offensive genius who has a tendency to fold under high pressure moments until proven otherwise". That should serve all of us well in managing our expectations on the 9ers as a team under the leadership of Kyle Shanahan as the head coach.
Oh well, one thing for sure, this is going to be one heck of a long offseason. Suffering 2 Super Bowl losses in a row in 7 years really takes its toll on the fans. I am sure a lot of us have aged some in these 7 years, let's just hope we won't have to wait another 7 years for another collapse.
Yup one doubter right here. People act like shanahan is a s**tty coach and we're going back to the dark ages. This is a playoff Super Bowl contender. We just need to make sure we close out playoff games next season. But nope you people will just keep doubting us and bash shanahan jimmy g. You people make me sick
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:05 PM
- Sculbers
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Some posters here bash shanahan and want him replaced but the minute he is gone they will come here bashing the niners for him being gone. That's how the anti-49er agenda works
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:06 PM
- Seansf49
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Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:Originally posted by Seansf49:Originally posted by socalfan21:Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:Don't think Kyle recovers from this catastrophe. Also, if we are in this position again do we trust Kyle? Heck no! This isn't something you "learn from" this is him as a play caller. This is honestly unacceptable!
Andy Reid says hi.
Well he faced his younger clone so something had to give
Plus does anyone wanna wait 20 something years for his redemption. Guy panic picks plays at the end like the fantasy football clock is running out after the guy in front of you took the player you targeted.
He's a great coach but he is a choker
I'm having a hard time understanding this mentality. If its gonna take another 15 years for shanahan to get another shot at it, count me out. And I really like the guy.
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:08 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by Sculbers:Yup one doubter right here. People act like shanahan is a s**tty coach and we're going back to the dark ages. This is a playoff Super Bowl contender. We just need to make sure we close out playoff games next season. But nope you people will just keep doubting us and bash shanahan jimmy g. You people make me sick
So you are saying you don't take a guy who doesn't post for two weeks leading up to the game then shows up ranting after a loss seriously?
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:18 PM
- Young2Rice
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Originally posted by frankieuc68:https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Kyle-Shanahan-assistants-tirade-Super-Bowl-LIV-NFL-15013539.php
I was just checking out this article a few days ago at Nick Mullens threat and today a few media was talking about how Jimmy G was not throwing to some open receivers during the game. Is Shanahan basically just controlling or hand cuffing Jimmy G like a robot and wouldn't let him ad lib or throw to open receivers? Anyway I'm sure it has nothing to do with this game and maybe Jimmy G just missed them with all the chaos around him. But I'm also trying to get to know how and what Shanahan's mindset regarding his relationship with his QB and coaches. Last night and today sucks as I'm just trying to find something to hang on to regarding the 4th quarter collapse..
I hope those instructions are just for Mullens. Often the backup gets reined in so he doesn't blow the game.
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:25 PM
- Niners_D
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Originally posted by frankieuc68:https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Kyle-Shanahan-assistants-tirade-Super-Bowl-LIV-NFL-15013539.php
I was just checking out this article a few days ago at Nick Mullens threat and today a few media was talking about how Jimmy G was not throwing to some open receivers during the game. Is Shanahan basically just controlling or hand cuffing Jimmy G like a robot and wouldn't let him ad lib or throw to open receivers? Anyway I'm sure it has nothing to do with this game and maybe Jimmy G just missed them with all the chaos around him. But I'm also trying to get to know how and what Shanahan's mindset regarding his relationship with his QB and coaches. Last night and today sucks as I'm just trying to find something to hang on to regarding the 4th quarter collapse..
I've been contemplating the same thing. It is difficult to know how much Kyle demands that Jimmy finds a primary read and how much he wants him to survey the field.
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:29 PM
- riverrunzthruit
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Kyle is the man, they played press over 1 at the end and the only receiver we had to break that was ES, he got open but JG didn't have the time to set his feet in a clean pocket and deliver the ball...
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:29 PM
- Rascal
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Originally posted by Sculbers:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Reggie Bush breaks down why San Francisco's loss was '100% on Kyle Shanahan' | NFL | UNDISPUTED
Who listens to that trash? Might as well watch Jerry springer
He is correct 100%. Listen to it. Both him and Shannon Sharp say it and Skip Bayless too.
Not only them, basically 99% of the world saw it, period!!
The point is this, Kyle Shanahan has a tendency to crap in his pants in the most critical and high pressure situations. Granted a lot of people crack under pressure, but that says Kyle Shanahan just isn't that exceptional superman head coach with ice in his veins who can perform his job in the biggest stage.
Marcus Spears made a very good point in Get Up today, Kyle Shanahan is no different to Andy Reid before he won the Super Bowl. Andy Reid got a ton of flak for years. We and the media also have been giving Kyle Shanahan a ton of praise and credit for how the 9ers played this season. Most people are fair, we give where credit is due. I am pretty sure Kyle has been enjoying the love too. But, here is the thing, when you crap in your pants in your second Super Bowl in a row, he needs to be criticized just the same.
Folks, there is just no other way to say it, Kyle Shanahan lost us this Super Bowl. When he thought he was being calm and collected, he was wasting time on the clock, not using timeouts to score like before the end of the 1st half. When the Chiefs' D started coming batting down Jimmy G's throws, he kept calling pass plays. Furthermore, when the 9ers were up 20-10 and having intercepted Mahomes, he went away from the run and did not put his foot down to close the deal!! To date, Kyle Shanahan has blown 2 Super Bowls already.
The homers can shut up here, we are not being armchair coaches here, even fxxking John Lynch thought we needed to call timeout before the half for cry out loud!!! That says it all!!!
Of course no one is saying Kyle Shanahan is all bad. We can play with the numbers, may be 75% good and 25% bad. To me, he is fantastic in play design, but his decision-making and playcalling leaves a lot to be desired. And this glaring weakness of his doesn't just get progressively, but exponentially worse in critical moments and in the biggest of games. I am not here to say what we should do with Kyle Shanahan, at least not yet, but rather to say by now we need to know to the fullest extent of what we are dealing with here in terms of Kyle Shanahan as a whole package. Do we take the good over the bad? May be? Do we need to replace him at some point if his 4th quarter collapses carry on? May be? But, at the very least, we need to start thinking about it. On that note, we have been hearing talks of contract extension already, given there are still 3 years left in the existing deal, do we slow it down or even take it off the table for now? May be? Surely, you are not going to give him another 6 years with 3 years to go on his first contract after this Super Bowl collapse right? So, there is definitely a lot to think about here.
But, for now, we need to change that initial and perhaps mis-perception of Kyle Shanahan as being an "offensive genius" to a more accurate one namely an "offensive genius who has a tendency to fold under high pressure moments until proven otherwise". That should serve all of us well in managing our expectations on the 9ers as a team under the leadership of Kyle Shanahan as the head coach.
Oh well, one thing for sure, this is going to be one heck of a long offseason. Suffering 2 Super Bowl losses in a row in 7 years really takes its toll on the fans. I am sure a lot of us have aged some in these 7 years, let's just hope we won't have to wait another 7 years for another collapse.
Yup one doubter right here. People act like shanahan is a s**tty coach and we're going back to the dark ages. This is a playoff Super Bowl contender. We just need to make sure we close out playoff games next season. But nope you people will just keep doubting us and bash shanahan jimmy g. You people make me sick
I see. So, you obviously never even bothered to read the post. Calm down son, being a homer at a time like this won't get you far. Analyze the situation and be objective. Don't just go off ranting with zero rationale.
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:31 PM
- RTFirefly
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Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by okdkid:I think he will too. It took Andy Reid 21 seasons to win one.
I will go on record right now and say Kyle Shanahan absolutely will win a Super Bowl. Excellent coach. At 40, one of the best in football already, and will coach a long time. He could coach my team any day. https://t.co/aWtm5oHcth
— Peter King (@peter_king) February 3, 2020
Kyle is such a good coach that it's hard to see him not being in this league for the forseeable future.
Don Shula was a very young HC (Colts at age 33) who lost two Super Bowls, one with the Colts and one with the Dolphins, before he won two in a row with the 'Fins. It can happen. (Amazingly enough, Shula's still alive. He's 90.) Shanny is decades younger than the cheaters Belicheat and Carroll. Hopefully he not only learns from this playcalling mismanagement, but acts on it appropriately.
Feb 3, 2020 at 9:45 PM
- 9moon
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Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by okdkid:I think he will too. It took Andy Reid 21 seasons to win one.
I will go on record right now and say Kyle Shanahan absolutely will win a Super Bowl. Excellent coach. At 40, one of the best in football already, and will coach a long time. He could coach my team any day. https://t.co/aWtm5oHcth
— Peter King (@peter_king) February 3, 2020
Kyle is such a good coach that it's hard to see him not being in this league for the forseeable future.
Don Shula was a very young HC (Colts at age 33) who lost two Super Bowls, one with the Colts and one with the Dolphins, before he won two in a row with the 'Fins. It can happen. (Amazingly enough, Shula's still alive. He's 90.) Shanny is decades younger than the cheaters Belicheat and Carroll. Hopefully he not only learns from this playcalling mismanagement, but acts on it appropriately.
SHULA lost to better teams... while we still have a chance with Shanny, we GAVE the game to KC because Shanny did not know what to do...
