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  • 9moon
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 9moon:
sorry.. I'm just against any TEs making so much money... Gonzo... Gates... and great TEs before them obviously couldn't be a factor of getting their teams to the Super Bowl....

While the Brent Jones and the Novacek won Super Bowls being just VERY GOOD ENOUGH type of players..

PLUS, I only see TEs as some kinda "security blanket " for the QBs.

Plus plus, the great Michael Mayer will be a free agent next offseason.

That's why trade for him now, extend his contract before we end up bidding for against other teams.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's send them...

2027 - 3rd rounder
2028 - 2nd rounder that can turn in a 1st if he leads the league in sacks
Ji'ayir
Lenoir
McKivitz

and we get

Crosby
Mayer
2027 - 5th
2028 - 4th

How do I put this nicely...

Good god this would be a horrible deal IMO, both DMo and McKivitz are needed, idk who the hell replaces them and plays anywhere near their level now Brown wouldn't be missed also not sure why LV would do this deal anyway? They'd want a guaranteed 1st not a 2nd that can maybe become a 1st

Demo overrated... we have Stout and Renardo .. both are feisty...

We shouldn't mind giving up a bit too much for Maxx, the guy can play and he'll be worth every players or picks that we will give up... Sometimes, you need to pay more in order to get that much of a bigger result.
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 9moon:
sorry.. I'm just against any TEs making so much money... Gonzo... Gates... and great TEs before them obviously couldn't be a factor of getting their teams to the Super Bowl....

While the Brent Jones and the Novacek won Super Bowls being just VERY GOOD ENOUGH type of players..

PLUS, I only see TEs as some kinda "security blanket " for the QBs.

Plus plus, the great Michael Mayer will be a free agent next offseason.

That's why trade for him now, extend his contract before we end up bidding for against other teams.

Gross
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's send them...

2027 - 3rd rounder
2028 - 2nd rounder that can turn in a 1st if he leads the league in sacks
Ji'ayir
Lenoir
McKivitz

and we get

Crosby
Mayer
2027 - 5th
2028 - 4th

How do I put this nicely...

Good god this would be a horrible deal IMO, both DMo and McKivitz are needed, idk who the hell replaces them and plays anywhere near their level now Brown wouldn't be missed also not sure why LV would do this deal anyway? They'd want a guaranteed 1st not a 2nd that can maybe become a 1st

Demo overrated... we have Stout and Renardo .. both are feisty...

We shouldn't mind giving up a bit too much for Maxx, the guy can play and he'll be worth every players or picks that we will give up... Sometimes, you need to pay more in order to get that much of a bigger result.

Grosser
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's send them...

2027 - 3rd rounder
2028 - 2nd rounder that can turn in a 1st if he leads the league in sacks
Ji'ayir
Lenoir
McKivitz

and we get

Crosby
Mayer
2027 - 5th
2028 - 4th

How do I put this nicely...

Good god this would be a horrible deal IMO, both DMo and McKivitz are needed, idk who the hell replaces them and plays anywhere near their level now Brown wouldn't be missed also not sure why LV would do this deal anyway? They'd want a guaranteed 1st not a 2nd that can maybe become a 1st

I didn't want to take him seriously but yes...the idea of trading away 2 of our best players(yes I said it about McKivitz!) at arguably our weakest positions to add Crosby(great player but the injury concerns and salary are problematic for long term team building) is well...slap worthy imo.

Mayer btw has been a substantial disappointment. I wouldn't mind adding him and seeing if we can get him to play up to his draft status but not at the cost of decimating the team.

adding Mayer is just a bonus, and will become a GREAT pick up ... Crosby is the main dude still. .

Mayer has been a disappointment because he plays for the Raiders and being misused, but the guy will be great..
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's send them...

2027 - 3rd rounder
2028 - 2nd rounder that can turn in a 1st if he leads the league in sacks
Ji'ayir
Lenoir
McKivitz

and we get

Crosby
Mayer
2027 - 5th
2028 - 4th

How do I put this nicely...

Good god this would be a horrible deal IMO, both DMo and McKivitz are needed, idk who the hell replaces them and plays anywhere near their level now Brown wouldn't be missed also not sure why LV would do this deal anyway? They'd want a guaranteed 1st not a 2nd that can maybe become a 1st

Demo overrated... we have Stout and Renardo .. both are feisty...

We shouldn't mind giving up a bit too much for Maxx, the guy can play and he'll be worth every players or picks that we will give up... Sometimes, you need to pay more in order to get that much of a bigger result.

I question sometimes if you actually watch this team play...
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's send them...

2027 - 3rd rounder
2028 - 2nd rounder that can turn in a 1st if he leads the league in sacks
Ji'ayir
Lenoir
McKivitz

and we get

Crosby
Mayer
2027 - 5th
2028 - 4th

How do I put this nicely...

Good god this would be a horrible deal IMO, both DMo and McKivitz are needed, idk who the hell replaces them and plays anywhere near their level now Brown wouldn't be missed also not sure why LV would do this deal anyway? They'd want a guaranteed 1st not a 2nd that can maybe become a 1st

Demo overrated... we have Stout and Renardo .. both are feisty...

We shouldn't mind giving up a bit too much for Maxx, the guy can play and he'll be worth every players or picks that we will give up... Sometimes, you need to pay more in order to get that much of a bigger result.

I question sometimes if you actually watch this team play...

I've watched the same games of the 49ers that you've watched.. maybe even more... i don't get your argument here..

here, let me pay you back..
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's send them...

2027 - 3rd rounder
2028 - 2nd rounder that can turn in a 1st if he leads the league in sacks
Ji'ayir
Lenoir
McKivitz

and we get

Crosby
Mayer
2027 - 5th
2028 - 4th

How do I put this nicely...

Good god this would be a horrible deal IMO, both DMo and McKivitz are needed, idk who the hell replaces them and plays anywhere near their level now Brown wouldn't be missed also not sure why LV would do this deal anyway? They'd want a guaranteed 1st not a 2nd that can maybe become a 1st

Demo overrated... we have Stout and Renardo .. both are feisty...

We shouldn't mind giving up a bit too much for Maxx, the guy can play and he'll be worth every players or picks that we will give up... Sometimes, you need to pay more in order to get that much of a bigger result.

I question sometimes if you actually watch this team play...

I've watched the same games of the 49ers that you've watched.. maybe even more... i don't get your argument here..

here, let me pay you back..
9 might actually be BA
greeOriginally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's send them...

2027 - 3rd rounder
2028 - 2nd rounder that can turn in a 1st if he leads the league in sacks
Ji'ayir
Lenoir
McKivitz

and we get

Crosby
Mayer
2027 - 5th
2028 - 4th

How do I put this nicely...

Good god this would be a horrible deal IMO, both DMo and McKivitz are needed, idk who the hell replaces them and plays anywhere near their level now Brown wouldn't be missed also not sure why LV would do this deal anyway? They'd want a guaranteed 1st not a 2nd that can maybe become a 1st

I didn't want to take him seriously but yes...the idea of trading away 2 of our best players(yes I said it about McKivitz!) at arguably our weakest positions to add Crosby(great player but the injury concerns and salary are problematic for long term team building) is well...slap worthy imo.

Mayer btw has been a substantial disappointment. I wouldn't mind adding him and seeing if we can get him to play up to his draft status but not at the cost of decimating the team.

Agreed, no way should we deal two of our best players, especially when McKivitz is a top 5-10 RT IMO, he had a great PFF grade for 2025, sure PFF grades aren't always accurate, see their grade for Juice, but still other sites had McKivitz graded high last year, and he's been getting better each year, as for DMo, I don't get his argument about Stout, he's not an outside CB, he's a slot, he's a good player, he's not DMo level, yet, but it'd be a downgrade to have him on the outside.

As for Mayer, yeah he's been a disappointment since being drafted, not sure I'd give up more than a conditional 7th for him when he's a UFA after this year I believe, not when we have DMo & McKivitz signed through 2029 & 2028 respectively, and on cheaper-ish deals, and as much as I'd love Maxx, his knee scares me long term.
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Let's send them...

2027 - 3rd rounder
2028 - 2nd rounder that can turn in a 1st if he leads the league in sacks
Ji'ayir
Lenoir
McKivitz

and we get

Crosby
Mayer
2027 - 5th
2028 - 4th

How do I put this nicely...

Good god this would be a horrible deal IMO, both DMo and McKivitz are needed, idk who the hell replaces them and plays anywhere near their level now Brown wouldn't be missed also not sure why LV would do this deal anyway? They'd want a guaranteed 1st not a 2nd that can maybe become a 1st

Demo overrated... we have Stout and Renardo .. both are feisty...

We shouldn't mind giving up a bit too much for Maxx, the guy can play and he'll be worth every players or picks that we will give up... Sometimes, you need to pay more in order to get that much of a bigger result.



MC was awesome before the injuries... we'll see if he starts getting injured more often (Ratbirds might know a thing or two)

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Grosser

That
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
9 might actually be BA

So I guess it is safe to say that John Lynch is the adult in the room but for BA to slander him in the manner in which he did really irks me. I am glad that Lynch is the good cop to Kyle at times being the bad cop with his supposed temperament but no one wants to be called a predator for simply trying to work out a football disagreement with a fellow football employee
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Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
9 might actually be BA


Originally posted by Pillbusta:
So I guess it is safe to say that John Lynch is the adult in the room but for BA to slander him in the manner in which he did really irks me. I am glad that Lynch is the good cop to Kyle at times being the bad cop with his supposed temperament but no one wants to be called a predator for simply trying to work out a football disagreement with a fellow football employee

Aiyuk has some serious issues, not just mental, he is very immature, and has a me me me attitude, I say let him rot on the reserve/left squad list, just ignore his ass, f**k him.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
So I guess it is safe to say that John Lynch is the adult in the room but for BA to slander him in the manner in which he did really irks me. I am glad that Lynch is the good cop to Kyle at times being the bad cop with his supposed temperament but no one wants to be called a predator for simply trying to work out a football disagreement with a fellow football employee

Someone cares for you and drives to your home to check on you. 99.9% of players heard that and were probably thinking John's a real one. We unfortunately paid the 0.0001% of that equation who thought John was pulling up for a confrontation. Aiyuk is clearly scared to have to man up and take accountability it's a problem with the younger generation.
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