John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Hmmm. . . if Crosby's knee is a concern isn't Bosa who is coming back from ACL at the same age? I think the question is can Bosa come back at previous levels? He's had 4 years of wear and tare on his body playing NFL (given him last year off) and we'll see how he comes back. Regardless, the Niners are an aging team and if they want to win, they need to shore up their DL. Bosa also needs another pro bowl edge to take pressure off of him so he can perform. We'll if the Niners do anything here. I still think edge is a weakness going into training camp.

Not sure what you're getting at here? Bosa is what 2 yrs younger, coming off a ACL so that means we should trade a bunch of picks for an older Maxx coming off a knee injury?

I agree they need edge help. While getting Maxx would be sweet, not sure that's the route they should be going.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Chance:
The Ravens would say that whether they believed it or not. You do understand that teams are capable of lying? Or is it just the 49ers brass you believe every Machiavellian story about?

His knee is clearly not good and he's been overworked for years. He's closer to 30 and is gonna want more GTD cash after this season.

would it be sweet to get Maxx? Sure….there's enough info out there that's showing his knee is worse than people thought.

Oh, I'm fully aware and not disputing that his knee is a problem. But you'd be hard pressed to convince me the Ravens weren't already fully aware of the extent of his knee issue when they pulled the trigger. The must have seen his pre-op scans, and there's such little you can glean from a post-op mri that soon after a surgery regarding long-term implications of said surgery. I'm guessing that it's just as likely they got cold feet as it is they were ignorant to the extent of his knee.

I think anyone with knowledge of the 49ers knows this is probably B.S.

49er trades don't leak until their done.
The Raiders aren't doing anything to help the 49ers.
Lynch doesn't offer "top of market" trade value for anyone.

And by some miracle if the Raiders do trade Crosby to us it's probably because they know his injuries are way worse than we think. We'd be getting another Dee Ford situation.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
lol how many articles are we gonna post about the same rumor??

But it's "nuclear hot" That's hotter than really hot or super hot.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
lol how many articles are we gonna post about the same rumor??

But it's "nuclear hot" That's hotter than really hot or super hot.

Raiders don't trade with the 49ers ever.

The Davis family would have to roll over. So no, not even with Brady there. He's mad we took Jimmy G.

Originally posted by All22:
I think anyone with knowledge of the 49ers knows this is probably B.S.

49er trades don't leak until their done.
The Raiders aren't doing anything to help the 49ers.
Lynch doesn't offer "top of market" trade value for anyone.

And by some miracle if the Raiders do trade Crosby to us it's probably because they know his injuries are way worse than we think. We'd be getting another Dee Ford situation.

Wait what? Doesn't offer top market value? We actually had a stronger offer for Mack but Raiders wouldn't deal him to us and the CMC deal was a 2, 3, 4 and a 5 which was probably the top offer seeing as I doubt anyone would have dealt a 1st for any RB so not sure how we don't offer top value when we literally have in the past

I'm glad that ugly pumpkin chucky haircut looking MF'r won't do business with the 49ers

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Raiders don't trade with the 49ers ever.

The Davis family would have to roll over. So no, not even with Brady there. He's mad we took Jimmy G.

Meh I don't think it's that deep anymore.

Originally posted by Chance:
Oh, I'm fully aware and not disputing that his knee is a problem. But you'd be hard pressed to convince me the Ravens weren't already fully aware of the extent of his knee issue when they pulled the trigger. The must have seen his pre-op scans, and there's such little you can glean from a post-op mri that soon after a surgery regarding long-term implications of said surgery. I'm guessing that it's just as likely they got cold feet as it is they were ignorant to the extent of his knee.

I mean LV could have filed something if they truthfully got cold feet….you can't just back out of a trade because you changed your mind days after it was agreed upon. They must have seen something when they brought him in. Either way his value imo isn't whatever the Ravens were willing to give up after the fact.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
lol how many articles are we gonna post about the same rumor??

Leave it to the webzone writers to be 24 hours late to the party.

The person that is the actual source of this has been linking every edge rusher to the 49ers for more than a month now. This specific rumor from the "insider" (note: not the Raiders version of Cohn that repeated it) said all of this like a week ago on a random podcast.

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Hmmm. . . if Crosby's knee is a concern isn't Bosa who is coming back from ACL at the same age? I think the question is can Bosa come back at previous levels? He's had 4 years of wear and tare on his body playing NFL (given him last year off) and we'll see how he comes back. Regardless, the Niners are an aging team and if they want to win, they need to shore up their DL. Bosa also needs another pro bowl edge to take pressure off of him so he can perform. We'll if the Niners do anything here. I still think edge is a weakness going into training camp.

There is always concern over injuries, especially knee and achilles injuries. The concern with Crosby isn't the immediate injury and recovery. The expectation is that Crosby should be fine to return in 2026. The problem is the long-term issues found in his medicals. That his knee has a degenerative issue that is likely to cause him pain the rest of his career and enough of a chance to explode into a career-ending injury. The Ravens didn't want to take the risk. The other team that was high on Crosby before the physical was the Cowboys and they appear out with Jerry openly defending the Ravens choice to bail. The Cowboys team doc has also seen the physical results as he was consulted by the Ravens and confirmed the Ravens initial evaluation.

It should also be mentioned that Bosa is already on the team and Crosby isn't. The Ravens gave up two first-round picks for Crosby after they outbid the Cowboys. After the medicals, neither the Ravens nor the Cowboys are in on Crosby.

Is a degenerative knee issue likely to stop Lynch? Doubtful.

The 49ers were fine with the medicals when they drafted Bosa. He had a partially torn right ACL as a high school senior and core muscle surgery in 2018 at OSU. This forum had been speculating that Bosa had a degenerative knee issue before the draft. He had the torn left ACL in 2020. They gave him an extension 2023. He then had the groin injury in 2024 and the torn right ACL in 2025.

The 49ers were fine with trading for Dee Ford who had degenerative knee concerns that may have led to the groin issue in 2018. In 2019, knee tendonitis ended up flaring early in the season, but he opted to put off surgery to the offseason and play through it. Shortly after, a quad issue would develop. He was limited in practices but played through it. Then he had the hamstring issue that ended his season. All of this contributed to a spinal issue that ended his career.

Javon Kinlaw was known to have tendinitis and was flagged by several teams to be at risk for arthritis/degenerative issues. I believe it was both knees that had issues. The 49ers drafted him anyway. Kinlaw suffered a right ACL sprain at the end of 2020. A right ACL sprain in 2021. He had surgery then. In 2022, he would have another right ACL sprain. He had surgery during the 2023 offseason.

Originally posted by All22:
I think anyone with knowledge of the 49ers knows this is probably B.S.

49er trades don't leak until their done.
The Raiders aren't doing anything to help the 49ers.
Lynch doesn't offer "top of market" trade value for anyone.

And by some miracle if the Raiders do trade Crosby to us it's probably because they know his injuries are way worse than we think. We'd be getting another Dee Ford situation.

I mean they gave up top market value for CMC and we were linked to him before it happened. Like AB said we offered more than the Bears for Mack.

I don't even know what his value is at this point. He's not worth 2 1sts after Baltimore backed out imo….if anyone was offering that he would have been moved by now.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Chance:
Oh, I'm fully aware and not disputing that his knee is a problem. But you'd be hard pressed to convince me the Ravens weren't already fully aware of the extent of his knee issue when they pulled the trigger. The must have seen his pre-op scans, and there's such little you can glean from a post-op mri that soon after a surgery regarding long-term implications of said surgery. I'm guessing that it's just as likely they got cold feet as it is they were ignorant to the extent of his knee.

I mean LV could have filed something if they truthfully got cold feet….you can't just back out of a trade because you changed your mind days after it was agreed upon. They must have seen something when they brought him in. Either way his value imo isn't whatever the Ravens were willing to give up after the fact.

Executed trades are still subject to conditions. Every trade is contingent on the player passing a physical. The league rules mandates every traded player undergo a physical. If the player fails the physical, the new club has the choice on whether to continue. Crosby said he failed the physical. Crosby wasn't expected to be in a condition to pass a physical until June/July, so it's not shocking he failed the physical. The Ravens were obviously willing to trade for Crosby had the injury been what was initially claimed by Crosby and his team as "minor meniscus repair". The Ravens ultimately chose to back out because of the long-term concerns that came up with the medicals. The Ravens did the work to seek outside opinions to ensure they got their evaluation right.

The Ravens have backed out of deals before due to failed physicals, with Michael Brockers in 2020 and Ryan Grant in 2018. The latter led to the Ravens acquiring Crabtree. The 49ers traded for Eric Wright from the Bucs in 2013. After the cornerback failed a physical, the 49ers backed out of the trade and Wright reverted back to the Bucs. While it didn't get to the point of a failed physical, the 49ers and Commies agreed to a trade at the combine in 2022. Jimmy G for multiple picks. Once the Commies found out Jimmy had surgery on his throwing shoulder, the trade was killed and the Commies used the picks to acquire Carson Wentz from the Colts.

The 49ers traded for Eric Wright from the Bucs in 2013. After the cornerback failed a physical, the 49ers backed out of the trade and Wright reverted back to the Bucs.

Yeah but it also came to light he had been arrested the week before and the 49ers found an out lol.

He ended up getting cut and we signed him anyways

Originally posted by frenchmov:

The 49ers traded for Eric Wright from the Bucs in 2013. After the cornerback failed a physical, the 49ers backed out of the trade and Wright reverted back to the Bucs.

Yeah but it also came to light he had been arrested the week before and the 49ers found an out lol.

He ended up getting cut and we signed him anyways

It was known before the trade happened that Eric Wright had been arrested for DUI. Baalke even put out a statement saying the team did its "due diligence". He also held a meeting with the press.

"The Bucs were very forthcoming with the information and we definitely knew what his status was," Baalke said. "Our medical staff wasn't convinced he was ready to put on the field, so we didn't pass him."

"All the work we did and the discussions we had with Eric when he came in here was very positive," Baalke said. "There were some concerns, we addressed the concerns. But once again he's not with us and we'd rather talk about the guys that are here. He just didn't pass the physical."

"They're always a red flag, but once again, I'd ask you guys to do your due diligence as well and find out the facts surrounding that," Baalke said. "That particular instance, certainly we were aware of and certainly it's a red flag, but I don't think what's being reported is really the facts around it."

Baalke was openly talking about signing Wright down the line after he was released. After the 49ers lost Culliver, the team signed Wright and immediately designated him Reserve/NFI.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by All22:
I think anyone with knowledge of the 49ers knows this is probably B.S.

49er trades don't leak until their done.
The Raiders aren't doing anything to help the 49ers.
Lynch doesn't offer "top of market" trade value for anyone.

And by some miracle if the Raiders do trade Crosby to us it's probably because they know his injuries are way worse than we think. We'd be getting another Dee Ford situation.

I mean they gave up top market value for CMC and we were linked to him before it happened. Like AB said we offered more than the Bears for Mack.

I don't even know what his value is at this point. He's not worth 2 1sts after Baltimore backed out imo….if anyone was offering that he would have been moved by now.

I can see your point about Mack but that does go to show you the Raiders aren't trading with us. I always had doubts that offer ever really happened but I'll concede that one.

Regarding CMC, he was drafted #8 overall and lived up to that draft pick so I'd consider a deal centered around the #61 pick to be less than market value. Panthers were having a firesale and he was worth a first round pick in Kyles system IMO.