John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Arguing over safety vs edge is silly. The fact is to be a real contender you can't be weak at any spot. Teams exploit holes in your defense. That's what they're supposed to do. The defense will do the same if you have a weakness on offense. You can have 2 great edge rushers but if your DBs are bad then offenses will find holes. If the edge rushers are terrible then even great DBs will get burned.

I think it's real hard to be good everywhere. No team is great at every position group. That's what makes the NFL cool, everyone works with the same hard cap and builds around what they think matters most.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why would they trade him he's making next to nothing? And he's further proof you can find quality safeties on day 3 or in FA.

because he's in the last year of his contract,... next offseason he'll hit FA and Jackx, if they are not thinking in resigning him, will get nothing

he's not an established starter and Jackx has drafted 2 other safeties with higher picks than him (2 3rd round picks) in the last 2 drafts,.... so there's the possibility that they could be receptives to listen for offers,.... I'm not saying that they are willing to trade him or anything,.... I've no clue what Jackx is thinking about him ,.... but if I were in SF's FO, no doubt I would ask around him

"And he's further proof you can find quality safeties on day 3 or in FA"
not sure why you bring this,... I didn't say anything opposite to it,.... in fact, I agree with it,.... but the 49ers need a FS right now, there's no draft before next season and the safeties currently avalaible in FA are backup-quality,.... we need a starter FS, we don't have any and the only way to get a quality FS right now is through a trade,... people is talking, for example, about trading for Jessie Bates,... I think this would be a better and cheaper option
this wouldn't be anything close to a blokbuster trade,.... as I said it could be traded, IMO, for a 5th or a 6th round pick,... I would give even a 4th for him,....

from all the possible acquisitions the team could make for the FS spot right now, I think this is the best one by far

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch has a home Super Bowl and gets rid of half the roster and doesn't make any significant moves to push us over the top and we watch the Seahawks win the SB in our stadium.

Snead has a home Super Bowl and adds the best player in the game.

It would be nice to have a competent GM.

This is what pisses me off about John Lynch and his consultants. I was pounding the table to go all in due to a Super Bowl at home and he just sat back and said it didn't fit into the teams plans (or something of the sort). Imagine if they traded a 2nd for Quinnen Williams and a 3rd for Jaelan Phillips last season like Dallas and Philly did, where would the 9ers have been? Sure it was a 2026 2nd round and 2027 1st round picks for Williams but they would have held on to their 2026 1st round pick.

Where? Watching Seattle win the SB in our own stadium but without a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick.

Also brushing off Dallas throwing in a first round pick in what is considered by virtually everyone to be a SUBSTANTIALLY stronger draft class in 2027 and a player on top of it as an afterthought it something.

You're better than that man. 49ers 100% made the right decision not to go for those trades. What do you think they help us do last year? Lose 23 to 6 instead?

Who knows if the 9ers would've won or loss that game if they went all-in. One thing for sure is that the 9ers defense would've got help in both run defense and pressure on the QB.

Also I did mention that Dallas threw in a 1st round pick, it was in my last sentence. A 2026 2nd round pick and a 2027 1st round pick is well worth it for Quinnen Williams. Much rather spend that on Williams than what Cincy spent to get Dexter Lawrence.

What do I think those additions would've done, they would've gave the 9ers a better shot at a win and strengthen the defense. C;mon genus stop being a homer you're better than that.

This isn't about being a homer. It's about being realistic.

Dallas traded for Quinnen Williams and didn't make the playoffs.
Eagles traded for Phillips and lost at home to our banged up squad.

Seeing what Seattle did to our offense in that playoff game changes how with a better defense? If anything my post is the opposite of being a homer because I'm being realistic with the fact that our roster wasn't good enough with everything that was going on and trading away our future to improve in a year we're clearly hurting would've been a big mistake.

The trade for Osa makes a lot more sense because while Williams is a stud who would've definitely helped us but we needed a pass rushing 3T and Osa is exactly that and cost us a lot less.

2027 draft class is expected to be very strong. We'll see what pick Dallas ends up giving away. Obviously I'm hoping we pick 32nd when the season is over but holding onto our early picks is the smart move right now. Now if things are clicking for us this year and all the guys we needed to step up are doing that then I expect us to go for it at the trade deadline. Not right now and not at last year's trade deadline.

You know damn well lol if Lynch made those trades you'd be arguing the opposite. Not thinking that the additions of Phillips and Williams during week 8 would've changed the playoffs or divisional game is being a homer. For one they might've got the #1 seed and beaten Seattle at home, the game was only 13-3. 49ers also would've had a much better chance at stopping the run and giving the offense more time at possessing the ball.

As for the 2027 draft, who cares about that, Lynch has not had good drafts and I'm finally realizing that. Sure Stribling and Height may turn into solid players but he NEEDS to hit on this draft in the worse way because his track record as of late isn't a good one.

I've never been shy about voicing my concerns about some moves and still hoping I'm wrong about them. I was pretty consistent about us not being good enough to go for the big trade and I preferred we go more money ball approach like we've done in the past with guys like Omenihu.

Plus had we actually done those trades then we would've seen how it unfolded and wouldn't have to guess. Easy to say who cares about 2027 draft until you see what happens and there is a player on the board who would've been perfect for your team.

You're playing the hypothetical game. Maybe those guys help us enough but we scored 3 points in that game. You think the defense was the problem? Sure maybe more stops in the game give us more chances but the state of the offense wasn't exactly on point that day.

I would've liked Jaelan Phillips for a 3rd round pick but with his injury history...he'd last maybe a game with us before his knee exploded.

genus I'm not saying you're a homer all the time just saying for this matter. What matter during that home game was defense and both teams were struggling on offense only Seattle ran the ball better on that day (week 18). Yes it's easy to say who cares about the 2027 draft and go all-in especially if you're in position to get the #1 seed and the Super Bowl at home. The NFC West was neck and neck all the way to the end of the season, I could see if the 9ers were out of reach and 4 games behind first place and only playing for the wild card.

Oh well the past is the past it's all behind us now. But if you really think about it, the 9ers kinda have another chance at a Super Bowl at home in Levis South. Another year to go all-in.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Arguing over safety vs edge is silly. The fact is to be a real contender you can't be weak at any spot. Teams exploit holes in your defense. That's what they're supposed to do. The defense will do the same if you have a weakness on offense. You can have 2 great edge rushers but if your DBs are bad then offenses will find holes. If the edge rushers are terrible then even great DBs will get burned.

I think it's real hard to be good everywhere. No team is great at every position group. That's what makes the NFL cool, everyone works with the same hard cap and builds around what they think matters most.

Let me clarify my statement a little. Very few teams are ever good at every position. You don't need great players at every position but you can't have a gaping hole. Last year the Niners had a gaping hole in their pass rush. It made the DBs look even worse. With a better pass rush those same DBs may actually be okay. Very few DBs are capable of covering a receiver for more than 5-7 seconds.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Arguing over safety vs edge is silly. The fact is to be a real contender you can't be weak at any spot. Teams exploit holes in your defense. That's what they're supposed to do. The defense will do the same if you have a weakness on offense. You can have 2 great edge rushers but if your DBs are bad then offenses will find holes. If the edge rushers are terrible then even great DBs will get burned.

I think it's real hard to be good everywhere. No team is great at every position group. That's what makes the NFL cool, everyone works with the same hard cap and builds around what they think matters most.

Let me clarify my statement a little. Very few teams are ever good at every position. You don't need great players at every position but you can't have a gaping hole. Last year the Niners had a gaping hole in their pass rush. It made the DBs look even worse. With a better pass rush those same DBs may actually be okay. Very few DBs are capable of covering a receiver for more than 5-7 seconds.

Its' very difficult to have even good players everywhere with every team having the same hard cap, that's facts, yes you can always find good players on the cheap, but it's very rare IMO to have good players at every spot on your team, every team has somewhere that's spotty on their team IMO, the fact is, whether some, not saying you, want to admit it, you can't have more than 12-14 players averaging $10M or more a year, just not feasible with the way the salary cap is.

Also, never mentioned this, and not sure if we were even in on Garrett, but he had an NTC, so he can/could have vetoed any trade.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
genus I'm not saying you're a homer all the time just saying for this matter. What matter during that home game was defense and both teams were struggling on offense only Seattle ran the ball better on that day (week 18). Yes it's easy to say who cares about the 2027 draft and go all-in especially if you're in position to get the #1 seed and the Super Bowl at home. The NFC West was neck and neck all the way to the end of the season, I could see if the 9ers were out of reach and 4 games behind first place and only playing for the wild card.

Oh well the past is the past it's all behind us now. But if you really think about it, the 9ers kinda have another chance at a Super Bowl at home in Levis South. Another year to go all-in.

Uhhh. He's the biggest homer on this site.

Trust what Shanahan and Lynch do no matter what.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Fine. Take out the regular season.

What's the excuse for 2-2 in the NFCCG's and 0-2 in the Super Bowls then?

And before you say Purdy got hurt vs the Eagles whose decision was it to have Josh Johnson as the backup QB in that game?

What's the excuse for 90% of the league not even making it to the Championship game or the Super Bowl?

Brock Purdy was QB3 that yr derp. It was Lance/Jimmy G and then Brock. Perfect example lacking context and whining just to whine.

Who cares about making it to the Championship game or Super Bowl?

Seriously. It means nothing at the end of the day.

I just don't understand this loser mentality.

kek