John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Chance:
Can't draft. Can't trade. Can't sign FAs. How exactly are we winning games again?

we must NOT allow our selves to be happy with just winning... Super Bowl WINS must be once again our measuring stick !!

LOL.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Is it time to reconsider a trade for Maxx Crosby? Ravens' had agreed to trade two firsts for him. Would a 2027 first and a 2028 second or third be enough to get on the 49ers now? Would he be worth that? He's 28.

I would 100% do this. He's basically signed on a very reasonable contract for the remainder of his prime ($29M a year for 4 years when he's 32).

And the pressure wouldn't be on us for him to pass his physical. If he fails it the whole league would just be like "oh so he's cooked lol" instead of insisting we got cold feet.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch's last 4 drafts in the past 4 years have all ranked in the bottom 4 every year.

We rank dead last in draft capital over expected rank in the last 4 years

We have reached (some more than 150+ spots) on 20 guys in the last 4 years.

And that doesn't include the brutal moves like trading Buckner and taking Kinlaw, drafting Solomon Thomas and the Trey Lance trade.

Usually one or two of those moves gets a whole front office fired never mind having the WORST drafts by far the last 4 years.

So I ask again, why does Lynch still have a job and why is Shanahan allowed anywhere near the draft room and draft process?

Simple because we have an owner who doesn't really care about winning it all.. as long as we win some, he's happy..

Lynch is a key member of Jed's Glory Hole Parties You ain't breaking up that wicked crew (Jed, Paraag, Shanny, Lynch)

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
Trading for Garoppolo instead waiting and pursuing K. Cousins in FA sent this regime and franchise into alternative universe. Sort of like being in the Twilight Zone. Someone f**ked it up, who I don't know.

LMAO, if Kirk Cousins was that good or great of a QB, why hasn't he done jack? He had a pretty good Vikings team(s) and didn't get to a SB.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Is it time to reconsider a trade for Maxx Crosby? Ravens' had agreed to trade two firsts for him. Would a 2027 first and a 2028 second or third be enough to get on the 49ers now? Would he be worth that? He's 28.

I'm ok with something like the Garrett deal, a 2027 1st, 2028 2nd, and a 2029 3rd, but that's about it, I'd prefer it to be a 1 and a 2 only, but Idk if the Raiders do that, they just don't like or are willing to deal with us.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch's last 4 drafts in the past 4 years have all ranked in the bottom 4 every year.

We rank dead last in draft capital over expected rank in the last 4 years

We have reached (some more than 150+ spots) on 20 guys in the last 4 years.

And that doesn't include the brutal moves like trading Buckner and taking Kinlaw, drafting Solomon Thomas and the Trey Lance trade.

Usually one or two of those moves gets a whole front office fired never mind having the WORST drafts by far the last 4 years.

So I ask again, why does Lynch still have a job and why is Shanahan allowed anywhere near the draft room and draft process?

You keep asking but you're clearly not looking for real responses because you keep ignoring them...

So why keep asking the same thing if you're not looking for real discussion? That smells like spam.

Go ahead then. Let's hear it.

Is it the 5 winning seasons out of 9? Or the two Super Bowl losses where we lost leads in both? Losing two NFCCG's? The 3 years out of 9 where we had a top 10 scoring offense?

Maybe it's some of the worst personnel decisions in the league? Maybe it's the worst drafting out of anyone the past 4 years?

If not that then what is it?

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
Trading for Garoppolo instead waiting and pursuing K. Cousins in FA sent this regime and franchise into alternative universe. Sort of like being in the Twilight Zone. Someone f**ked it up, who I don't know.

LMAO, if Kirk Cousins was that good or great of a QB, why hasn't he done jack? He had a pretty good Vikings team(s) and didn't get to a SB.

Kirk was a better QB than Jimmy. He makes that throw to sanders and they probably win a SB, similar to what Seattle just did.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Go ahead then. Let's hear it.

Is it the 5 winning seasons out of 9? Or the two Super Bowl losses where we lost leads in both? Losing two NFCCG's? The 3 years out of 9 where we had a top 10 scoring offense?

Maybe it's some of the worst personnel decisions in the league? Maybe it's the worst drafting out of anyone the past 4 years?

If not that then what is it?

Oh boo hoo…that's more than 90% of the teams in the league over the years.

quit pretending this team sucks and aren't consistently one of the best teams in football who always has a legit shot to win it all every yr.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch's last 4 drafts in the past 4 years have all ranked in the bottom 4 every year.

We rank dead last in draft capital over expected rank in the last 4 years

We have reached (some more than 150+ spots) on 20 guys in the last 4 years.

And that doesn't include the brutal moves like trading Buckner and taking Kinlaw, drafting Solomon Thomas and the Trey Lance trade.

Usually one or two of those moves gets a whole front office fired never mind having the WORST drafts by far the last 4 years.

So I ask again, why does Lynch still have a job and why is Shanahan allowed anywhere near the draft room and draft process?

You keep asking but you're clearly not looking for real responses because you keep ignoring them...

So why keep asking the same thing if you're not looking for real discussion? That smells like spam.

Go ahead then. Let's hear it.

Is it the 5 winning seasons out of 9? Or the two Super Bowl losses where we lost leads in both? Losing two NFCCG's? The 3 years out of 9 where we had a top 10 scoring offense?

Maybe it's some of the worst personnel decisions in the league? Maybe it's the worst drafting out of anyone the past 4 years?

If not that then what is it?

I've written about it several times in the last pages, god forbid you read but fine I'll make it easy for you so you can't pretend you didn't see it.

You're b***hing about the front office and their AWFUL decisions and how they haven't set this team up to win Championships.

The team has been in 2 SBs and 2 more NFCCGs under this awful regime.

That is 4 out of the 9 years they've been here and 4 out of the 7 years once they finished the rebuild project they took over.

We had leads in all but the Eagles game where our starting QB was injured on the first offensive drive of the game. That was after 2 prior starting QBs got injured.

They 100% had the team ready to not only compete for Championships but to win them. They cannot control injuries. They cannot control officiating. They cannot make the plays for the players on the field.

The teams they put together should've had 2 SB wins by now at minimum. All that other stuff you're crying about doesn't change that fact.

I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lynch's last 4 drafts in the past 4 years have all ranked in the bottom 4 every year.

We rank dead last in draft capital over expected rank in the last 4 years

We have reached (some more than 150+ spots) on 20 guys in the last 4 years.

And that doesn't include the brutal moves like trading Buckner and taking Kinlaw, drafting Solomon Thomas and the Trey Lance trade.

Usually one or two of those moves gets a whole front office fired never mind having the WORST drafts by far the last 4 years.

So I ask again, why does Lynch still have a job and why is Shanahan allowed anywhere near the draft room and draft process?

You keep asking but you're clearly not looking for real responses because you keep ignoring them...

So why keep asking the same thing if you're not looking for real discussion? That smells like spam.

Go ahead then. Let's hear it.

Is it the 5 winning seasons out of 9? Or the two Super Bowl losses where we lost leads in both? Losing two NFCCG's? The 3 years out of 9 where we had a top 10 scoring offense?

Maybe it's some of the worst personnel decisions in the league? Maybe it's the worst drafting out of anyone the past 4 years?

If not that then what is it?

I've written about it several times in the last pages, god forbid you read but fine I'll make it easy for you so you can't pretend you didn't see it.

You're b***hing about the front office and their AWFUL decisions and how they haven't set this team up to win Championships.

The team has been in 2 SBs and 2 more NFCCGs under this awful regime.

That is 4 out of the 9 years they've been here and 4 out of the 7 years once they finished the rebuild project they took over.

We had leads in all but the Eagles game where our starting QB was injured on the first offensive drive of the game. That was after 2 prior starting QBs got injured.

They 100% had the team ready to not only compete for Championships but to win them. They cannot control injuries. They cannot control officiating. They cannot make the plays for the players on the field.

The teams they put together should've had 2 SB wins by now at minimum. All that other stuff you're crying about doesn't change that fact.

Unfortunately some fans think every draft pick should be great. Every season should end in a SB win. Every call should go the Niners way. Injuries should only happen to other teams. Reality isn't part of their world.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Oh boo hoo…that's more than 90% of the teams in the league over the years.

quit pretending this team sucks and aren't consistently one of the best teams in football who always has a legit shot to win it all every yr.

And how many of those teams got rid of their coach and front office?

Baltimore got rid of Harbaugh and they had a legit shot every year for a longer period than Shanahan / Lynch but the difference is he won a Super Bowl.

A legit chance and actually winning are two very different things.

Originally posted by genus49:
I've written about it several times in the last pages, god forbid you read but fine I'll make it easy for you so you can't pretend you didn't see it.

You're b***hing about the front office and their AWFUL decisions and how they haven't set this team up to win Championships.

The team has been in 2 SBs and 2 more NFCCGs under this awful regime.

That is 4 out of the 9 years they've been here and 4 out of the 7 years once they finished the rebuild project they took over.

We had leads in all but the Eagles game where our starting QB was injured on the first offensive drive of the game. That was after 2 prior starting QBs got injured.

They 100% had the team ready to not only compete for Championships but to win them. They cannot control injuries. They cannot control officiating. They cannot make the plays for the players on the field.

The teams they put together should've had 2 SB wins by now at minimum. All that other stuff you're crying about doesn't change that fact.

You don't seem to be helping your case.

We absolutely should have had 2 Super Bowls by now but Shanahan blew those leads.

Is it a good thing that we made it to two Super Bowls, had the lead and lost the game?

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I get being upset at not winning a Super Bowl, but I will never, ever fathom how there are fans who actually believe and preach that getting all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than never getting to the Super Bowl. Like… it's just objectively anti-arithmetic.

Losing the Super Bowl might FEEL worse than not getting there at all, but from a legacy and history perspective it most definitely isn't. The absolute most you can say is losing the Super Bowl makes you one of the 31 teams that didn't win it. It doesn't put you below the other 31 teams.

It's just fantasy logic from Browns/Lions/Texans/Jaguars fans who want to feel better about never watching their team in a Super Bowl. "Well at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so that basically puts us above almost everyone else!!"

To each their own. Agree to disagree.

Sincerely,
The San Francisco 49er Bridesmaids

Exactly.

For some reason fans think that finishing 2nd place means something. Like a participation medal.

At the end of the day there is one SB winner defending the title and 31 other teams trying to take it.

I honestly could care less about making it to the SB and losing. And I guarantee the players feel the same way too.