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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Time for Lynch to go trade for Jared Verse

Nah. Mad Maxx 👀

I'd honestly be a bit mad if we traded two 1sts for Max when we could have potentially had Garrett for a little more
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Time for Lynch to go trade for Jared Verse

Nah. Mad Maxx 👀

I'd honestly be a bit mad if we traded two 1sts for Max when we could have potentially had Garrett for a little more

For what it's worth, I'm half-joking and don't think it happens. But I doubt it would be for two 1sts if it does. That Ravens fiasco destroyed some of his value and some of the Raiders' leverage.

If you offered the Raiders a 2027 1st and a 2028 2nd right now they would probably at least think about it. That's half the package the Browns got right there (Verse is probably worth a 2027 1st by himself).
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Jun 1, 2026 at 3:00 PM ]
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Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Time for Lynch to go trade for Jared Verse

Nah. Mad Maxx 👀

I'd honestly be a bit mad if we traded two 1sts for Max when we could have potentially had Garrett for a little more

From Shefter, Pellisaro and others, Cleveland was not going to make the deal if Verse was not included. Since the 49ers don't have a healthy, 25 yo Pro Bowl pass rusher to offer, there was no chance we could have made a deal for Garrett.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Time for Lynch to go trade for Jared Verse

Nah. Mad Maxx 👀

I'd honestly be a bit mad if we traded two 1sts for Max when we could have potentially had Garrett for a little more

From Shefter, Pellisaro and others, Cleveland was not going to make the deal if Verse was not included. Since the 49ers don't have a healthy, 25 yo Pro Bowl pass rusher to offer, there was no chance we could have made a deal for Garrett.

Probably not if they wanted a player in return but we could have upped the ante in draft capital 2 1sts and 2nd with some change
Mykel Williams - 1 - 11 - 2025.

20 tackles, 1 sack, 4 tackles for a loss.

Jared Verse - 1 - 19 - 2024.

58 tackles, 7.5 sacks, 11 tackles for a loss.

We don't have anybody like Jared Verse is the argument. We don't have that value to give in a trade is the argument I see. Well maybe we should get somebody like him or pick somebody like him..... I think that would be a good idea. Imagine drafting well also positions you better for blockbuster trades. What a concept.
Welp there goes the ShannaLynch era. 9-8 or 8-9 depending on injuries. Loosing 3 out of 4 against LA/Seattle leaves no margin for error. Only going to be able to loose 4 games, outside those two teams on the rest of their schedule to maybe sneak a wildcard. They waited 3 years too long to blow it up.
A first, second, third, and a pro bowl player for Garrett. Yeah IDK...

I don't think I'd give up like Kittle or CMC or even probably Lenoir and all those picks for one guy.

Verse is entering his prime and likely on his way to annually hitting double digit sacks.
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
A first, second, third, and a pro bowl player for Garrett. Yeah IDK...

I don't think I'd give up like Kittle or CMC or even probably Lenoir and all those picks for one guy.

Verse is entering his prime and likely on his way to annually hitting double digit sacks.

Itll be a unpopular opinion but Vearse is worth more in trade value than Kittle and CMC. Theyre both old, Kittle is coming off a injury and CMC isn't what he once was.

Anyways, Stan Kroenke is the best owner in sports.
Originally posted by socal1632:
Welp there goes the ShannaLynch era. 9-8 or 8-9 depending on injuries. Loosing 3 out of 4 against LA/Seattle leaves no margin for error. Only going to be able to loose 4 games, outside those two teams on the rest of their schedule to maybe sneak a wildcard. They waited 3 years too long to blow it up.

*Lose
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Les Snead is showing up John Lynch as a GM. I mean, we have all kinds of cap excuses as to why we can't make big signings, yet the Rams continue to make big signings year after year. People keep saying that they will have to "pay the piper". Well Les Snead must be bribing the piper to not collect his depth.

Yup, and their big price was one 5-12 season. Oh, the horror! It's not like we've avoided terrible seasons by playing money ball.

That's what having Matt Stafford grants you. We havent' seen Sean McVay have any success without a #1 overall pick playing QB for him. Obviously great if you have that. We'll see how long Matt can play at a high level and whether Simpson can play anywhere close to that.

What does it matter? Les Snead will just pull off another trade to get a top QB like Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, or Josh Allen until Simpson is ready.

Part of our issue is we and the rest of the league use the salary cap as a legitimate reason/excuse to taper current and future short term spending. Long ago we were in 'cap hell ' But the revenue game has evolved. Snead is fearless about future cap and maybe because his owner is one of the NFL shot callers.

To put things in perspective
2026 cap $301M
2021 cap $182M
2016 cap $$155M

Snead doesn't fear free agency or long term spending on studs. He undervalues draft picks and would rather spend on known commodities, proven players. Which aligns with "f them draft picks" saying.

He didn't just sign Garrett, but also traded a 2026 1st for Trent McDuffie and gave him an immediate $124M extension.

At least we have the most cap space. #1 in responsible spending.

So basically participation trophy champs?

He's being sarcastic. I'm not down for moving any 1st rd picks in 2027. Epic draft class.

not sure who folks realistically think SF should go after? Myles was never coming here based off that new contract. LA has future big time deals to payout, while SF has those contracts going right now.

That's my point. LA doesn't worry about future big time deals to pay out. The salary cap doubled in 10 years, and increased more than 50% in the past years. The Rams had $248M in dead cap hits over the past 5 years. They see it like any business expense a loss to write off but it's the teams money not the fans and is the team really going broke? They recently won a SB and now they're primed in the short term.

What I'm saying is they couldn't afford to keep the team the same, they got 3+ massive contracts coming up. SF just has a season of massive DM as well. Like you said it's a business. We will see if it pays off or not for LA. Myles is a monster and any team would love to have him. IMO it's not like they didn't already have a great DL though.
They gave up Verse as well, I had initially thought it was just Myles for picks... thankfully it wasn't. Its definitely a big upgrade but not as big as I thought it was.
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Lynch catching way too much heat for Garrett going to the Rams. I still blame Kaepernick for week 17 in 2016 vs the f**king Rams. Played the long game well Rams very well.

Lynch still would've taken Thomas. The bond was sealed from footsies in class together

Yeah sure, they would not have drafted the generational 4-3 DE.
Also they didn't draft Bosa and they took Quinnen Williams. Oh wait no they drafted Nick Bosa.
Seriously some of you should stop your nonsense.
The Browns wanted Jared Verse, that's it.
I know this pales in comparison to Myles Garrett, but we should secure Joey Bosa now. Continue to strengthen that pass rush!
Originally posted by socal1632:
Welp there goes the ShannaLynch era. 9-8 or 8-9 depending on injuries. Loosing 3 out of 4 against LA/Seattle leaves no margin for error. Only going to be able to loose 4 games, outside those two teams on the rest of their schedule to maybe sneak a wildcard. They waited 3 years too long to blow it up.

why? Stafford is almost 40. They're one hard back hit for him to be a 500 team.

Love Myles and wish he was here…he's not 24 either. It's another short term deal for the now.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Les Snead is showing up John Lynch as a GM. I mean, we have all kinds of cap excuses as to why we can't make big signings, yet the Rams continue to make big signings year after year. People keep saying that they will have to "pay the piper". Well Les Snead must be bribing the piper to not collect his depth.

Yup, and their big price was one 5-12 season. Oh, the horror! It's not like we've avoided terrible seasons by playing money ball.

That's what having Matt Stafford grants you. We havent' seen Sean McVay have any success without a #1 overall pick playing QB for him. Obviously great if you have that. We'll see how long Matt can play at a high level and whether Simpson can play anywhere close to that.

What does it matter? Les Snead will just pull off another trade to get a top QB like Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, or Josh Allen until Simpson is ready.

Part of our issue is we and the rest of the league use the salary cap as a legitimate reason/excuse to taper current and future short term spending. Long ago we were in 'cap hell ' But the revenue game has evolved. Snead is fearless about future cap and maybe because his owner is one of the NFL shot callers.

To put things in perspective
2026 cap $301M
2021 cap $182M
2016 cap $$155M

Snead doesn't fear free agency or long term spending on studs. He undervalues draft picks and would rather spend on known commodities, proven players. Which aligns with "f them draft picks" saying.

He didn't just sign Garrett, but also traded a 2026 1st for Trent McDuffie and gave him an immediate $124M extension.

At least we have the most cap space. #1 in responsible spending.

So basically participation trophy champs?

He's being sarcastic. I'm not down for moving any 1st rd picks in 2027. Epic draft class.

not sure who folks realistically think SF should go after? Myles was never coming here based off that new contract. LA has future big time deals to payout, while SF has those contracts going right now.

That's my point. LA doesn't worry about future big time deals to pay out. The salary cap doubled in 10 years, and increased more than 50% in the past years. The Rams had $248M in dead cap hits over the past 5 years. They see it like any business expense a loss to write off but it's the teams money not the fans and is the team really going broke? They recently won a SB and now they're primed in the short term.

What I'm saying is they couldn't afford to keep the team the same, they got 3+ massive contracts coming up. SF just has a season of massive DM as well. Like you said it's a business. We will see if it pays off or not for LA. Myles is a monster and any team would love to have him. IMO it's not like they didn't already have a great DL though.

Just a difference in philosophy. The Seahawks did it by drafting with the addition of Darnold who didn't carry them. Nail the draft or hit with FAs in trades. I can't say Lynch has done either with 2 of his top picks Solomon and Lance.

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