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Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by tankle104:

This is exactly what Kyle said to Rich Eisen when talking about Black and Stribling. But somehow the numbnuts on this forum will still glaze the Ravens while calling for our top brass to be fired.

Maybe because the Ravens draft starters and players that will make an impact, while Kyle and John draft players that won't see the field for 1-3 years...if ever...while having gaping holes in the starting lineup?

I find it funny how people accuse others of being numbnuts or wanna-be Mel Kipers, while defending Kyle and John...when Kyle comes out and admits he just watches highlight reels and John admits they don't have a clue what other teams might do that will affect the draft around them.

The Ravens certainly seem to have more younger players than SF does that can actually hold their own in a game
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Originally posted by Chance:
This is exactly what Kyle said to Rich Eisen when talking about Black and Stribling. But somehow the numbnuts on this forum will still glaze the Ravens while calling for our top brass to be fired.

So are you happy with the way we draft in the early rounds? I don't think anyone on this forum would care if the Niners overdrafted vs. Consensus as long as they hit on the player.
When you miss as much as they do then people do start asking questions. Truth is they would draft better if they ignored their board and went with the consensus.
Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
Originally posted by Chance:
This is exactly what Kyle said to Rich Eisen when talking about Black and Stribling. But somehow the numbnuts on this forum will still glaze the Ravens while calling for our top brass to be fired.

So are you happy with the way we draft in the early rounds? I don't think anyone on this forum would care if the Niners overdrafted vs. Consensus as long as they hit on the player.
When you miss as much as they do then people do start asking questions. Truth is they would draft better if they ignored their board and went with the consensus.

Funny he mentions the "numbnuts" on this forum. The same numbnuts has been putting out better drafts in the first three rounds than Kyle/John over the years. It's all there in all the shadow drafts and draft discussion threads
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Originally posted by Chance:
That's the kind of intellectually dishonest argumentation typical in those numb of nuts.

A) video packages prepared by scouts are not "highlight reels." And the amount of prep that goes into each pick incorporates a ton of discussion, collaboration, meetings, etc. I get why you want to make Kyle look like a lazy idiot, but I'm not dumb and I see through your b******t, and if you actually believe that b******t, then you have bigger problem to worry about.

B) Yeah, teams don't know each others' draft boards. Kyle told Eisen that they hear whispers and know what kind of players certain teams tend to go for, but at the end of the day, teams tend to keep their picks closely guarded since you know this is a multi-billion dollar league built on exploiting any competitive advantage.

Agree, I'll just add that there's a lot of newbie fans that are just learning about American football. Football is a complex sport. Newbie fans might not understand how the whole system works, and only focus on the most simple method to acquire talent. It is what it is.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Funny he mentions the "numbnuts" on this forum. The same numbnuts has been putting out better drafts in the first three rounds than Kyle/John over the years. It's all there in all the shadow drafts and draft discussion threads

And so now the truth reveals itself. It's not just that the 49ers FO doesn't know what they're doing but the fans know better. If you'd just said that in the first place, I could have started ignoring your posts much sooner
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Funny he mentions the "numbnuts" on this forum. The same numbnuts has been putting out better drafts in the first three rounds than Kyle/John over the years. It's all there in all the shadow drafts and draft discussion threads

And so now the truth reveals itself. It's not just that the 49ers FO doesn't know what they're doing but the fans know better. If you'd just said that in the first place, I could have started ignoring your posts much sooner

Oh no please don't ignore me 49ers81!! That would hurt my feelings cause it means so much to me that you read my post

Never said that the 49ers FO doesn't know what they are doing or that the fans know better. But when people start calling everyone here numb nuts and act like nobody knows nothing about football but the 49ers FO and what they say is gospel; that's just as ignorant. Guys here put in a lot of time and effort in the lead up to the drafts and to just s**t all over it by calling them numb nuts is childish and immature; especially when like I said, the proof is all there that people beyond just the FO knows what they are talking about.
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by tankle104:

This is exactly what Kyle said to Rich Eisen when talking about Black and Stribling. But somehow the numbnuts on this forum will still glaze the Ravens while calling for our top brass to be fired.

Maybe because the Ravens draft starters and players that will make an impact, while Kyle and John draft players that won't see the field for 1-3 years...if ever...while having gaping holes in the starting lineup?

I find it funny how people accuse others of being numbnuts or wanna-be Mel Kipers, while defending Kyle and John...when Kyle comes out and admits he just watches highlight reels and John admits they don't have a clue what other teams might do that will affect the draft around them.

That's the kind of intellectually dishonest argumentation typical in those numb of nuts.

A) video packages prepared by scouts are not "highlight reels." And the amount of prep that goes into each pick incorporates a ton of discussion, collaboration, meetings, etc. I get why you want to make Kyle look like a lazy idiot, but I'm not dumb and I see through your b******t, and if you actually believe that b******t, then you have bigger problem to worry about.

B) Yeah, teams don't know each others' draft boards. Kyle told Eisen that they hear whispers and know what kind of players certain teams tend to go for, but at the end of the day, teams tend to keep their picks closely guarded since you know this is a multi-billion dollar league built on exploiting any competitive advantage.

This.

The guy with random letters and numbers talking out of his ass.
Originally posted by Chance:
That's the kind of intellectually dishonest argumentation typical in those numb of nuts.

A) video packages prepared by scouts are not "highlight reels." And the amount of prep that goes into each pick incorporates a ton of discussion, collaboration, meetings, etc. I get why you want to make Kyle look like a lazy idiot, but I'm not dumb and I see through your b******t, and if you actually believe that b******t, then you have bigger problem to worry about.

B) Yeah, teams don't know each others' draft boards. Kyle told Eisen that they hear whispers and know what kind of players certain teams tend to go for, but at the end of the day, teams tend to keep their picks closely guarded since you know this is a multi-billion dollar league built on exploiting any competitive advantage.

Straight from the horses mouth. Kyle Shanahan calls it "highlight tapes" and literally says "highlight tapes" multiple times. But it's not that

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Chance:
That's the kind of intellectually dishonest argumentation typical in those numb of nuts.

A) video packages prepared by scouts are not "highlight reels." And the amount of prep that goes into each pick incorporates a ton of discussion, collaboration, meetings, etc. I get why you want to make Kyle look like a lazy idiot, but I'm not dumb and I see through your b******t, and if you actually believe that b******t, then you have bigger problem to worry about.

B) Yeah, teams don't know each others' draft boards. Kyle told Eisen that they hear whispers and know what kind of players certain teams tend to go for, but at the end of the day, teams tend to keep their picks closely guarded since you know this is a multi-billion dollar league built on exploiting any competitive advantage.

Straight from the horses mouth. Kyle Shanahan calls it "highlight tapes" and literally says "highlight tapes" multiple times. But it's not that


Sure, but he's using the term differently than you or I might, which was my point. These aren't a players top plays on YouTube, they're cut-ups of highs, lows, and whatever aspects the scouts think are important to portray to the coach about the player. So when people say, "hE oNlY wAtChEs HiGhLiGhTs!1!2!," what they're trying to convey is that he watches YouTube clips, which is fumb as f**k.
[ Edited by Chance on May 3, 2026 at 3:35 PM ]
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Chance:
That's the kind of intellectually dishonest argumentation typical in those numb of nuts.

A) video packages prepared by scouts are not "highlight reels." And the amount of prep that goes into each pick incorporates a ton of discussion, collaboration, meetings, etc. I get why you want to make Kyle look like a lazy idiot, but I'm not dumb and I see through your b******t, and if you actually believe that b******t, then you have bigger problem to worry about.

B) Yeah, teams don't know each others' draft boards. Kyle told Eisen that they hear whispers and know what kind of players certain teams tend to go for, but at the end of the day, teams tend to keep their picks closely guarded since you know this is a multi-billion dollar league built on exploiting any competitive advantage.

Straight from the horses mouth. Kyle Shanahan calls it "highlight tapes" and literally says "highlight tapes" multiple times. But it's not that


Sure, but he's using the term differently than you or I might, which was my point. These aren't a players top plays on YouTube, they're cut-ups of highs, lows, and whatever aspects the scouts think are important to portray to the coach about the player. So when people say, "hE oNlY wAtChEs HiGhLiGhTs!1!2!," what they're trying to convey is that he watches YouTube clips, which is fumb as f**k.

Agree. Relax braddah don't let what others think (if what you are saying is true) be enough to trigger you and insult with numb nut comments. I promise you not everyone on this forum is so naive and I respect a whole lot of people here because they DO know what they are talking about for this game and team we all love 🤙🏾
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Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
So are you happy with the way we draft in the early rounds? I don't think anyone on this forum would care if the Niners overdrafted vs. Consensus as long as they hit on the player.
When you miss as much as they do then people do start asking questions. Truth is they would draft better if they ignored their board and went with the consensus.

2023 and 2024 are considered one of ShanaLynch's weaker (or worst) drafts they've done during their time with the 49ers. Just keep in mind that on October 20, 2022, the San Francisco 49ers acquired running back Christian McCaffrey from the Carolina Panthers in exchange for four draft picks: 2023 second, third, and fourth-round picks, as well as a 2024 fifth-round pick. Add in the loss of the first round pick in 2023 for the Trey Lance (2021 draft bust) and the 2023 draft was atrociously horrible. That significantly weakened the draft position of ShanaLynch by a lot in 2023. 2024 looks a bit better with the 49ers finding Dominick Puni, Jarret Kingston (currently on the Texan's team), and Tatum Bethune (I think he played well last year with the 49ers). Other than Kingston, the rest of the 2024 draft is still with the 49ers, I think.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Funny he mentions the "numbnuts" on this forum. The same numbnuts has been putting out better drafts in the first three rounds than Kyle/John over the years. It's all there in all the shadow drafts and draft discussion threads

And so now the truth reveals itself. It's not just that the 49ers FO doesn't know what they're doing but the fans know better. If you'd just said that in the first place, I could have started ignoring your posts much sooner

Oh no please don't ignore me 49ers81!! That would hurt my feelings cause it means so much to me that you read my post

Never said that the 49ers FO doesn't know what they are doing or that the fans know better. But when people start calling everyone here numb nuts and act like nobody knows nothing about football but the 49ers FO and what they say is gospel; that's just as ignorant. Guys here put in a lot of time and effort in the lead up to the drafts and to just s**t all over it by calling them numb nuts is childish and immature; especially when like I said, the proof is all there that people beyond just the FO knows what they are talking about.

Did you really just say some random dude on his phone making mock drafts on simulators and eating Doritos know more or as much as our coaches, scouts and front office?

WTF did I just read??
Everyone take a deep breath and put away the insults.
Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
So are you happy with the way we draft in the early rounds? I don't think anyone on this forum would care if the Niners overdrafted vs. Consensus as long as they hit on the player.
When you miss as much as they do then people do start asking questions. Truth is they would draft better if they ignored their board and went with the consensus.

It's hard. If the 49ers drafted the consensus I. 2024 for example:

31. Jackson powers johnson - injured, then moved positions by raiders. Certainly hasn't been worthy of a 1st round pick (not that pearsall has)

63. Jatavion Sanders - has not been great (neither has renardo but I'd give slight nod to renardo)

86. Austin booker - puni has had a better career so far

Don't have access to the rest of the consensus off this site. I'm not saying our draft picks have been great top to bottom but I also don't see "just pick consensus!" as better year after year
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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Funny he mentions the "numbnuts" on this forum. The same numbnuts has been putting out better drafts in the first three rounds than Kyle/John over the years. It's all there in all the shadow drafts and draft discussion threads

And so now the truth reveals itself. It's not just that the 49ers FO doesn't know what they're doing but the fans know better. If you'd just said that in the first place, I could have started ignoring your posts much sooner

Oh no please don't ignore me 49ers81!! That would hurt my feelings cause it means so much to me that you read my post

Never said that the 49ers FO doesn't know what they are doing or that the fans know better. But when people start calling everyone here numb nuts and act like nobody knows nothing about football but the 49ers FO and what they say is gospel; that's just as ignorant. Guys here put in a lot of time and effort in the lead up to the drafts and to just s**t all over it by calling them numb nuts is childish and immature; especially when like I said, the proof is all there that people beyond just the FO knows what they are talking about.

Did you really just say some random dude on his phone making mock drafts on simulators and eating Doritos know more or as much as our coaches, scouts and front office?

WTF did I just read??

It's not that fans no more, but the fans aren't out of the loop as much as a Mel Kiper or Todd McShay. The internets gives the fans a lot of information. For instance it didn't take John Madden to know that Aaron Rodgers was more pro ready than Alex Smith in 2005. And in 2004 Vince Wilfork was the better pick and the key ingredient to running the 49ers 3 man front instead of picking Rashaun Woods.
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