John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by miked1978:
Lynch takes a lot of heat about taking Mitch Wishnowsky and i think i've seen several charts showing he's his biggest reach to date. Horrible value i agree but go look at the 144 players taken after Wishnowsky. Less than 10 of them ever panned out. Thats a 7% chance we'd hit on a pick that would have been a good "value" if we didn't draft Wish.

And to top it off, they did pick one of those 10 players later on. Dre Greenlaw.

I'd never pick a kicker or punter that early but at the end of the day they got more "value" out of the player than 93% of the players drafted after him.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Look I get we haven't hit on every pick but for christ sake this post on X is so stupid, including 2024-2026 picks when you can't fully evaluate players for 3yrs at minimum, and he says only Brock was a hit, yet Green, Stout, Brown, Mustapha, Puni, Collins/West are all slated as starters, while Bethune, Sigle, Colby, Winters, Burford, K.Davis have all started games and aren't bad picks, just cause they're not stars doesn't mean they were bad, just ignorant IMO, also sick of this "consensus boards online" crap, I don't care what these "experts" think, they don't know all 32 boards, or how all 32 teams feel about every player, look at Jermod McCoy, ranked top 15, went 4th rd, Shedeur Sanders 1st rd ranking went 5th rd, so annoyed by people who think they know better than those inside the NFL, I remember under Baalke when Kiper would give us an A every year, yeah didn't turn out great, Lynch isn't the best, but he sure as hell isn't a bottom 5 GM, he's top 10, not sure there's many I'd take over him, sure SEA, LAR, PHI, KC, and some others are as good or better, for ppl to act like every other team hits on every pick every yr, look at SEA before last few yrs, whiff after whiff, yet everyone loves them now, JFC, getting sick of nonsense like this.

The 49ers have made 43 non-1st-round draft picks since 2022.

The only hit is Mr. Irrelevant Brock Purdy

Rd 2, Pick 61 — DE Drake Jackson
Rd 3, Pick 93 — RB Tyrion Davis-Price
Rd 3, Pick 105 — WR Danny Gray
Rd 4, Pick 134 — OL Spencer Burford
Rd 5, Pick 172 — CB Samuel Womack
Rd…

— Polymarket Football (@PolymarketBlitz) April 28, 2026

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I think the term "value" is terribly misused regarding draft picks. It should be replaced with "projection".

"Value" has elements attached to it that give it weight. At least "projection" is more honest. It is just a freaking guess, educated (some more than others) guess at best.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Look I get we haven't hit on every pick but for christ sake this post on X is so stupid, including 2024-2026 picks when you can't fully evaluate players for 3yrs at minimum, and he says only Brock was a hit, yet Green, Stout, Brown, Mustapha, Puni, Collins/West are all slated as starters, while Bethune, Sigle, Colby, Winters, Burford, K.Davis have all started games and aren't bad picks, just cause they're not stars doesn't mean they were bad, just ignorant IMO, also sick of this "consensus boards online" crap, I don't care what these "experts" think, they don't know all 32 boards, or how all 32 teams feel about every player, look at Jermod McCoy, ranked top 15, went 4th rd, Shedeur Sanders 1st rd ranking went 5th rd, so annoyed by people who think they know better than those inside the NFL, I remember under Baalke when Kiper would give us an A every year, yeah didn't turn out great, Lynch isn't the best, but he sure as hell isn't a bottom 5 GM, he's top 10, not sure there's many I'd take over him, sure SEA, LAR, PHI, KC, and some others are as good or better, for ppl to act like every other team hits on every pick every yr, look at SEA before last few yrs, whiff after whiff, yet everyone loves them now, JFC, getting sick of nonsense like this.

The 49ers have made 43 non-1st-round draft picks since 2022.

The only hit is Mr. Irrelevant Brock Purdy

Rd 2, Pick 61 — DE Drake Jackson
Rd 3, Pick 93 — RB Tyrion Davis-Price
Rd 3, Pick 105 — WR Danny Gray
Rd 4, Pick 134 — OL Spencer Burford
Rd 5, Pick 172 — CB Samuel Womack
Rd…

— Polymarket Football (@PolymarketBlitz) April 28, 2026

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Agree. In the end, it's all about improving the productivity of the draft process. Whether through criticism or praise it doesn't matter. What's the AV of the players that you selected that would be one measure. How do we stack up against the other 32 teams for AV by position. That would be an interesting analysis. And AV of course is pretty anonymous it doesn't tell you about the quality of the snaps. But it is one universal measure. Probably the AV number should be adjusted by relative position in the draft because it makes sense that earlier drafting teams would have better scores than later drafting teams

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Agree. In the end, it's all about improving the productivity of the draft process. Whether through criticism or praise it doesn't matter. What's the AV of the players that you selected that would be one measure. How do we stack up against the other 32 teams for AV by position. That would be an interesting analysis. And AV of course is pretty anonymous it doesn't tell you about the quality of the snaps. But it is one universal measure. Probably the AV number should be adjusted by relative position in the draft because it makes sense that earlier drafting teams would have better scores than later drafting teams

Average value should be tied to something objective. If its going to be done in an objective and fair manner. Right now the so called consensus - whatever that means - is too subjective.

For example a basketball in the hands of 9moon is worth a buck and some change (just an example of course, Moon ), but a basketball in Stephen Curry's hands is worth millions. That's how ambiguous this Average value, or consensus thing is at. You can define it in a million ways.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Look I get we haven't hit on every pick but for christ sake this post on X is so stupid, including 2024-2026 picks when you can't fully evaluate players for 3yrs at minimum, and he says only Brock was a hit, yet Green, Stout, Brown, Mustapha, Puni, Collins/West are all slated as starters, while Bethune, Sigle, Colby, Winters, Burford, K.Davis have all started games and aren't bad picks, just cause they're not stars doesn't mean they were bad, just ignorant IMO, also sick of this "consensus boards online" crap, I don't care what these "experts" think, they don't know all 32 boards, or how all 32 teams feel about every player, look at Jermod McCoy, ranked top 15, went 4th rd, Shedeur Sanders 1st rd ranking went 5th rd, so annoyed by people who think they know better than those inside the NFL, I remember under Baalke when Kiper would give us an A every year, yeah didn't turn out great, Lynch isn't the best, but he sure as hell isn't a bottom 5 GM, he's top 10, not sure there's many I'd take over him, sure SEA, LAR, PHI, KC, and some others are as good or better, for ppl to act like every other team hits on every pick every yr, look at SEA before last few yrs, whiff after whiff, yet everyone loves them now, JFC, getting sick of nonsense like this.

The 49ers have made 43 non-1st-round draft picks since 2022.

The only hit is Mr. Irrelevant Brock Purdy

Rd 2, Pick 61 — DE Drake Jackson
Rd 3, Pick 93 — RB Tyrion Davis-Price
Rd 3, Pick 105 — WR Danny Gray
Rd 4, Pick 134 — OL Spencer Burford
Rd 5, Pick 172 — CB Samuel Womack
Rd…

— Polymarket Football (@PolymarketBlitz) April 28, 2026

Agree. Polymarket is a bunch if degenerate dipshits.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Lynch takes a lot of heat about taking Mitch Wishnowsky and i think i've seen several charts showing he's his biggest reach to date. Horrible value i agree but go look at the 144 players taken after Wishnowsky. Less than 10 of them ever panned out. Thats a 7% chance we'd hit on a pick that would have been a good "value" if we didn't draft Wish.

And to top it off, they did pick one of those 10 players later on. Dre Greenlaw.

I'd never pick a kicker or punter that early but at the end of the day they got more "value" out of the player than 93% of the players drafted after him.

i have an unpopular philosophy but assuming you don't have immediate needs at the starter level and you dont have a reliable kicker if there is one in the draft (or trade) i think its worth spending a mid round pick on one and hypoethically not worry about the position for next 5 to 10 years. Especially for kickers its a really important position that literally decide games

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
let's go Johnny I need some damn Joey Bosa news

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
let's go Johnny I need some damn Joey Bosa news

Seems they are only interested at their price.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The idea of value is based on projections by guys that make a living doing that. It doesn't mean they're right or wrong. Just their opinions. I don't care about the projections or what someone feels is a reach at number whatever. All that matters is how do they do when the action starts.

I wasn't excited by the picks the Niners made but that doesn't matter. If 2 or 3 end up helping the team then I'll be happy. On the other hand if they selected a lot of guys I liked and they didn't produce I would be disappointed.

Lynch believes it's not a coincidence his career started to flourish when head coach Tony Dungy, defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and defensive backs coach Herm Edwards arrived in 1996. They saw Lynch's potential in Kiffin's Tampa 2 defense -- and made sure he saw it, too.
Lynch became a full-time starter in '96 and made his first Pro Bowl the next year.
"I started believing in myself a little bit, but a lot of that was created by Tony and them when they came down [to Tampa]," Lynch said. "I started having the confidence, but Tony and Herm and Monte, they had a great vision for what I could become in that defense. They said, 'This is how we see you. Now we have to go make it happen.'
https://www.espn.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/12903/hall-of-fame-wasnt-on-john-lynchs-mind-during-slow-start-to-career

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Agree. In the end, it's all about improving the productivity of the draft process. Whether through criticism or praise it doesn't matter. What's the AV of the players that you selected that would be one measure. How do we stack up against the other 32 teams for AV by position. That would be an interesting analysis. And AV of course is pretty anonymous it doesn't tell you about the quality of the snaps. But it is one universal measure. Probably the AV number should be adjusted by relative position in the draft because it makes sense that earlier drafting teams would have better scores than later drafting teams

Average value should be tied to something objective. If its going to be done in an objective and fair manner. Right now the so called consensus - whatever that means - is too subjective.

For example a basketball in the hands of 9moon is worth a buck and some change (just an example of course, Moon ), but a basketball in Stephen Curry's hands is worth millions. That's how ambiguous this Average value, or consensus thing is at. You can define it in a million ways.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

The New York #Giants were asking for a 2026 2nd Round pick for EDGE Kayvon Thibodeaux, per multiple reports.

No team was budging at that asking price. pic.twitter.com/kZlyYxpteO

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) April 28, 2026

Would you guys rather have him or Height?