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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Well Cowherd was wrong about Brock


Well he wasn't wrong about this; which is why you posted it I would assume.

A lot of us have been thinking this and bringing this up for YEARS! I'm glad Cohn actually had the balls to question it and say what everyone is thinking. Hopefully this changes because of it or something changes
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Not hard to get rid of him in the least hes irrelevant.

That success is attributed to Kyles coaching and striking gold with Purdy he saved them from the Lance fiasco.

Yup, Purdy saved *both* their azzez. That's why they paid Purdy the big bucks. Its called job security. ShanaLynch isn't going anywhere as long as they keep Purdy alive and we'll. I almost guarantee it.
This draft doesn't indicate that they value keeping him alive and well.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Well Cowherd was wrong about Brock


Well he wasn't wrong about this; which is why you posted it I would assume.

A lot of us have been thinking this and bringing this up for YEARS! I'm glad Cohn actually had the balls to question it and say what everyone is thinking. Hopefully this changes because of it or something changes

I heard Greg Cosell on the Colin Cowherd show and he watches as much film as anyone. Probably way more than most. He said he never gives out draft grades because he doesn't know how any of these teams have players graded. We see huge variations in all the mock drafts and I'm sure many teams view players differently as well. The team may feel they did well because they got players that were on their board. Fans may think they screwed it up because the names they wanted weren't picked.

I know right now fans are worried because we're chasing the Seahawks and Rams. Well neither one of them had a great draft this year either. Time will tell.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Well Cowherd was wrong about Brock


This is just Cowherd seeing that stupid graphic and regurgitating it without any actual thought. The 49ers draft wasn't confusing at all.

Shanahan and Morris got their guys with the first two picks. Morris had his pick at 27 and the guy he wanted (rumored to be Lawrence) didn't make it. So they traded back to 30. They had a list of guys they would have taken at 30 and felt comfortable one would be there at 33. According to Kyle, all the guys they would have drafted at 30 made it to 33. Stribling was at the top and was coveted by the scouts, coaches, and Lynch.

I've gone through like 50 big boards and Height was off like 40% them, was 70-100 in 45%, less than 70 in 5%, and above 100 in the remaining 10%. Some explicitly cited shoulder and age concerns. The shoulder injury was years ago and he clearly showed he's fine the past two seasons. The age concern was a legitimate reason before the COVID/NIL era. The percentage of prospects drafted at age 24.5 or older has gone from 4% pre-NIL to 18% this year.

The remaining picks were basically position coaches getting guys they coveted for development. Guys with a floor but much higher ceilings due to their athletic profiles. This was a generationally terrible draft class. I wouldn't be shocked if the 49ers had less than 150 players with a draftable grade. This isn't like years past where you could get a quality depth piece in early day 3. Those guys stay in college and get paid.
[ Edited by Typecast on Apr 27, 2026 at 3:39 PM ]
I guess their motto must be "throw enough $#!t on the wall and one will eventually stick". Just can't believe they're so blind on tons of their misses in the early draft rounds. Was watching a video of the Niners draft for 2020-2023 and only 5 are on the current roster.
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Well Cowherd was wrong about Brock


This is just Cowherd seeing that stupid graphic and regurgitating it without any actual thought. The 49ers draft wasn't confusing at all.

Shanahan and Morris got their guys with the first two picks. Morris had his pick at 27 and the guy he wanted (rumored to be Lawrence) didn't make it. So they traded back to 30. They had a list of guys they would have taken at 30 and felt comfortable one would be there at 33. According to Kyle, all the guys they would have drafted at 30 made it to 33. Stribling was at the top and was coveted by the scouts, coaches, and Lynch.

I've gone through like 50 big boards and Height was off like 40% them, was 70-100 in 45%, less than 70 in 5%, and above 100 in the remaining 10%. Some explicitly cited shoulder and age concerns. The shoulder injury was years ago and he clearly showed he's fine the past two seasons. The age concern was a legitimate reason before the COVID/NIL era. The percentage of prospects drafted at age 24.5 or older has gone from 4% pre-NIL to 18% this year.

The remaining picks were basically position coaches getting guys they coveted for development. Guys with a floor but much higher ceilings due to their athletic profiles. This was a generationally terrible draft class. I wouldn't be shocked if the 49ers had less than 150 players with a draftable grade. This isn't like years past where you could get a quality depth piece in early day 3. Those guys stay in college and get paid.

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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Not hard to get rid of him in the least hes irrelevant.

That success is attributed to Kyles coaching and striking gold with Purdy he saved them from the Lance fiasco.

Yup, Purdy saved *both* their azzez. That's why they paid Purdy the big bucks. Its called job security. ShanaLynch isn't going anywhere as long as they keep Purdy alive and we'll. I almost guarantee it.
This draft doesn't indicate that they value keeping him alive and well.

Heh, maybe thats why they kept Mac Jones.

But seriously, drafting Kaelon's ability to protect Brock goes a long way to keeping Brock alive. It helps too when Brock can hand it off to an RB and let the RB's take a beating instead of the QB.

Factor in Foerster's ability to make lemon OLinemen into great Lemonade (UDFA Brendel, Colton Mckivitz), and you have carver and Enrique being potential starters in the near future. If you look just solely at Enrique's athleticism stats - he compares favorably to Trent Williams. We'll see what he turns into, but Foerster has done some OLine miracles in the past.
Well, since it seems no one chose to avail themselves of jonnydel's breakdown, I thought I'd post another one. I don't know too much about this guy, but I watch his videos from time-to-time, and he comes across as a guy who takes what he does seriously and isn't just chasing clicks. He has a much more measured take on the draft and avoids the hysterics coming from the national media, who are all guys whose "draft expertise" is a big part of their brand and so have a lot invested in not looking bad. But honestly, has anyone been more wrong about the draft through the years then Mel Kiper.

After watching this video and jonnydels I actually feel like there might be some real potential in this class if these guys can actually live up to their projections. I understand that it's much easier to put the blinders on and ignore anything that doesn't reinforce the narrative that a lot of you like to push, but if you're actually interested in getting a less pessimistic view of this draft, I'd encourage you to watch this video and jonnydels, where he had some really interesting clips on Black.

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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Well Cowherd was wrong about Brock


Well he wasn't wrong about this; which is why you posted it I would assume.

A lot of us have been thinking this and bringing this up for YEARS! I'm glad Cohn actually had the balls to question it and say what everyone is thinking. Hopefully this changes because of it or something changes

Things are going to change because Grant the troll asked a question about consensus?

okay.
Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Well Cowherd was wrong about Brock


This is just Cowherd seeing that stupid graphic and regurgitating it without any actual thought. The 49ers draft wasn't confusing at all.

Shanahan and Morris got their guys with the first two picks. Morris had his pick at 27 and the guy he wanted (rumored to be Lawrence) didn't make it. So they traded back to 30. They had a list of guys they would have taken at 30 and felt comfortable one would be there at 33. According to Kyle, all the guys they would have drafted at 30 made it to 33. Stribling was at the top and was coveted by the scouts, coaches, and Lynch.

I've gone through like 50 big boards and Height was off like 40% them, was 70-100 in 45%, less than 70 in 5%, and above 100 in the remaining 10%. Some explicitly cited shoulder and age concerns. The shoulder injury was years ago and he clearly showed he's fine the past two seasons. The age concern was a legitimate reason before the COVID/NIL era. The percentage of prospects drafted at age 24.5 or older has gone from 4% pre-NIL to 18% this year.

The remaining picks were basically position coaches getting guys they coveted for development. Guys with a floor but much higher ceilings due to their athletic profiles. This was a generationally terrible draft class. I wouldn't be shocked if the 49ers had less than 150 players with a draftable grade. This isn't like years past where you could get a quality depth piece in early day 3. Those guys stay in college and get paid.


I like to think of Warner. Picked 70th, was 98th on ESPN's board, 109 on that mock database used by the 49er account that is causing people to lose their minds. Also, this

Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Well Cowherd was wrong about Brock


This is just Cowherd seeing that stupid graphic and regurgitating it without any actual thought. The 49ers draft wasn't confusing at all.

Shanahan and Morris got their guys with the first two picks. Morris had his pick at 27 and the guy he wanted (rumored to be Lawrence) didn't make it. So they traded back to 30. They had a list of guys they would have taken at 30 and felt comfortable one would be there at 33. According to Kyle, all the guys they would have drafted at 30 made it to 33. Stribling was at the top and was coveted by the scouts, coaches, and Lynch.

I've gone through like 50 big boards and Height was off like 40% them, was 70-100 in 45%, less than 70 in 5%, and above 100 in the remaining 10%. Some explicitly cited shoulder and age concerns. The shoulder injury was years ago and he clearly showed he's fine the past two seasons. The age concern was a legitimate reason before the COVID/NIL era. The percentage of prospects drafted at age 24.5 or older has gone from 4% pre-NIL to 18% this year.

The remaining picks were basically position coaches getting guys they coveted for development. Guys with a floor but much higher ceilings due to their athletic profiles. This was a generationally terrible draft class. I wouldn't be shocked if the 49ers had less than 150 players with a draftable grade. This isn't like years past where you could get a quality depth piece in early day 3. Those guys stay in college and get paid.


I like to think of Warner. Picked 70th, was 98th on ESPN's board, 109 on that mock database used by the 49er account that is causing people to lose their minds. Also, this


One thing I would love to see is the names behind the so called golden helmets (or whatever they call them). Supposedly Kyle John and the scouts assigned 30 of them.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
One thing I would love to see is the names behind the so called golden helmets (or whatever they call them). Supposedly Kyle John and the scouts assigned 30 of them.

Golden helmets are character awards given out to guys that check every box on a list they have. They use that plus the talent evaluation plus other criteria in setting up there board. Lynch said they had 16 guys with golden helmets in this draft. Guys they've acknowledged in the past as Golden Helmet guys are Solomon Thomas, George Kittle, Fred Warner, Colton McKivitz, Trey Lance, Talanoa Hufanga, Ji'Ayir Brown, Brayden Willis, and now Stribling.
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Well Cowherd was wrong about Brock


Well he wasn't wrong about this; which is why you posted it I would assume.

A lot of us have been thinking this and bringing this up for YEARS! I'm glad Cohn actually had the balls to question it and say what everyone is thinking. Hopefully this changes because of it or something changes

Things are going to change because Grant the troll asked a question about consensus?

okay.

Because it's being talked about on a National level; not just Grant. All over Twitter with that Sharp guy, media on the networks etc etc. You think the Yorks likes this kind of attention? Especially when the data shows that NONE of these crazy reach guys (particularly RBs) have worked out?

We'll see. I mean if nothing changes and our early round busts continue every year; I'm pretty sure more than Grant will start questioning things.
From brugler. Like the blurb about black

Favorite pick: De'Zhaun Stribling, WR, Ole Miss

Kaelon Black was one of the most underrated players in this class, so it was good to see him go in the top 100. But Stribling's fit in Kyle Shanahan's West Coast scheme is going to be fun to watch. He offers the size to be a possession target and the speed to turn quick throws into big gains.

Day 3 pick who could surprise: Ephesians Prysock, CB, Washington

The 49ers made several intriguing picks on Day 3, but Prysock — and his fit with Raheem Morris — is the most interesting. At 6-3, 196, with 4.45 speed, his transitions can be a tad clunky. He is patient and long, though, which allows him to stay within phase with route runners
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Because it's being talked about on a National level; not just Grant. All over Twitter with that Sharp guy, media on the networks etc etc. You think the Yorks likes this kind of attention? Especially when the data shows that NONE of these crazy reach guys (particularly RBs) have worked out?

We'll see. I mean if nothing changes and our early round busts continue every year; I'm pretty sure more than Grant will start questioning things.

Wow, I didn't know it sparked a national debate. I though it would be just local to the bay area and 49er fans. WOW.
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