John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, they got some good guys to develop. Although, like the USC T we drafted a few years ago - we may lose them. We can't keep all the O line we signed and drafted. so something will have to give. The team signed decent O line depth this year, so these young guys will have a hard time making the final 53. So hopefully we don't lose them.

I would like to see Toth take over center. He looked good when he was doing it for the Eagles. I think he could easily be an upgrade.

I liked Jarrett Kingston, and he was quickly poached once ShanaLynch put him on the practice squad. Keeping him would have put our 2024 draft on a better footing, in my opinion. I agree that we might have an overload of talent on the offensive line, but that's a good problem to have, and not a bad one. We translated an overabundance of Linebacker talent into a 5th round pick that translated into a younger, bigger, faster KJ Wright (Jaden Duggar) by trading Dee Winters. Hopefully, maybe, if ShanaLych gets into a Jarrett Kingston rookie OLineman situation, they would opt for a trade (or cutting a veteran free agent) instead of putting the rookie on the practice squad.

Toth is an interesting prospect, I look forward to seeing how he blends in with the current OLine squad that we have. Between him being a depth piece versus a talented rookie - I'd rather keep a rookie OLineman though.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think it was more injuries to the WR and Aiyuk's absence that makes it look like McCaffrey declined. He'll be about 30 this year, I think he can play a couple more years if Kyle takes care of him better than he did in 2025. When the defense can load up on the run because you don't have WR threats, that's what will happen to your RB. Injuries to the OLine didn't help (Puni, Colby etc...) I hope the beefed up strength and conditioning team makes a difference in injuries this year.

He can play more than that as a slot wr.

CMC is a future Hall of Famer, and definitely has the talent to play in multiple positions. We just need to protect him from himself. Kaelon Black hopefully will do that for CMC. Cam Scattebo will be available in free agency (assuming all things go right for us) in 2029, hopefully CMC can play until then, or maybe we find a CMC 2.0 before CMC retires.

If there is one thing Lynch has failed at is bringing in good trainers. Maybe an exorcist

Originally posted by Giedi:
I liked Jarrett Kingston, and he was quickly poached once ShanaLynch put him on the practice squad. Keeping him would have put our 2024 draft on a better footing, in my opinion. I agree that we might have an overload of talent on the offensive line, but that's a good problem to have, and not a bad one. We translated an overabundance of Linebacker talent into a 5th round pick that translated into a younger, bigger, faster KJ Wright (Jaden Duggar) by trading Dee Winters. Hopefully, maybe, if ShanaLych gets into a Jarrett Kingston rookie OLineman situation, they would opt for a trade (or cutting a veteran free agent) instead of putting the rookie on the practice squad.

Toth is an interesting prospect, I look forward to seeing how he blends in with the current OLine squad that we have. Between him being a depth piece versus a talented rookie - I'd rather keep a rookie OLineman though.

Something about Duggar just stands out to me. I think he's going to be an absolute stud after a year or so. He's a perfect fit for Morris's scheme, IMO.

yeah, it's a good problem to have but still a problem. Kyle usually rolls with experience. He might not let the young guys play in the pre season. Hahaha so teams can't see how they look. We'll probably keep 10 o line.

it'll be interesting if keep a 3rd qb on the active roster

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think it was more injuries to the WR and Aiyuk's absence that makes it look like McCaffrey declined. He'll be about 30 this year, I think he can play a couple more years if Kyle takes care of him better than he did in 2025. When the defense can load up on the run because you don't have WR threats, that's what will happen to your RB. Injuries to the OLine didn't help (Puni, Colby etc...) I hope the beefed up strength and conditioning team makes a difference in injuries this year.

He can play more than that as a slot wr.

CMC is a future Hall of Famer, and definitely has the talent to play in multiple positions. We just need to protect him from himself. Kaelon Black hopefully will do that for CMC. Cam Scattebo will be available in free agency (assuming all things go right for us) in 2029, hopefully CMC can play until then, or maybe we find a CMC 2.0 before CMC retires.

We have CMC under contract for 2 more years

Using him as a 3rd down back and passing game only RB is not a bad way to end his career with us

Let the younger guys take the pounding in the actual running game so we can keep the best part of CMC healthy

CMC should be used like Darren Sproles in his prime with Drew Brees (Brees is a great comp for Purdy as well)

Sproles 2 best years as a 3rd down specialist were 2011 and 2012

2011
87 rushing attempts v 86 receptions
603 rushing yards v 702 receiving yards
2 rushing TDs v 7 receiving TDs

2012
48 rushing attempts v 75 receptions
244 rushing yards v 667 receiving yards
1 rushing TD v 7 receiving TDs

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by WildBill:
The only I wonder about this draft, is the safety position. Which make me think, either we sign a free agent (are there any really worth it though), Or someone is converting?

Camp is going to be intriguing to see what Morris has in mind.

There isn't much to sign.

put the 6'4 corner we drafted at safety! lol

I feel like the team is comfortable with who we have and are banking on Sigle getting a lot better year 1 to 2. I'm concerned about safety - we dont have anyone who can cover very well, unless sigle takes a big step forward.

it's really hard to project things cause we really don't know what Morris is going to run. Seems to me that the team is banking on the healthy D line making the secondary a lot better. last year, playing C or S on this defense was brutal. QBs had all day to throw, not many C/S would do well in that environment. Our S did take a lot of bad angles.. just bad football. that's the part that concerns me.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
We have CMC under contract for 2 more years

Using him as a 3rd down back and passing game only RB is not a bad way to end his career with us

Let the younger guys take the pounding in the actual running game so we can keep the best part of CMC healthy

CMC should be used like Darren Sproles in his prime with Drew Brees (Brees is a great comp for Purdy as well)

Sproles 2 best years as a 3rd down specialist were 2011 and 2012

2011
87 rushing attempts v 86 receptions
603 rushing yards v 702 receiving yards
2 rushing TDs v 7 receiving TDs

2012
48 rushing attempts v 75 receptions
244 rushing yards v 667 receiving yards
1 rushing TD v 7 receiving TDs

eff that - use CMC as a WR and let James/Black get a bulk of the carries. use CMC as a diversion and slot WR. He'd make more money if he was a full time WR anyways. lol

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I liked Jarrett Kingston, and he was quickly poached once ShanaLynch put him on the practice squad. Keeping him would have put our 2024 draft on a better footing, in my opinion. I agree that we might have an overload of talent on the offensive line, but that's a good problem to have, and not a bad one. We translated an overabundance of Linebacker talent into a 5th round pick that translated into a younger, bigger, faster KJ Wright (Jaden Duggar) by trading Dee Winters. Hopefully, maybe, if ShanaLych gets into a Jarrett Kingston rookie OLineman situation, they would opt for a trade (or cutting a veteran free agent) instead of putting the rookie on the practice squad.

Toth is an interesting prospect, I look forward to seeing how he blends in with the current OLine squad that we have. Between him being a depth piece versus a talented rookie - I'd rather keep a rookie OLineman though.

Something about Duggar just stands out to me. I think he's going to be an absolute stud after a year or so. He's a perfect fit for Morris's scheme, IMO.

yeah, it's a good problem to have but still a problem. Kyle usually rolls with experience. He might not let the young guys play in the pre season. Hahaha so teams can't see how they look. We'll probably keep 10 o line.

it'll be interesting if keep a 3rd qb on the active roster

I really like all our 2026 draft picks. I think - if all things go right with this draft class - it could be the best draft class in Kyle's career. After Adam Peters left, I think they changed a lot of what they did in the draft evaluation process. Just my opinion, but when he left, I think the 49ers started drafting better.

Usually problems have one or more solutions - hopefully one of those solutions results in more draft picks. But to your point, I think Kyle's going to go with what his position coaches say to him. I think he trusts Foerster enough to allow a rookies to play (Conner Colby) and same with KJ Wright regarding Duggar if he can beat out Greenlaw (god forbid if Greenlaw gets dinged too). 49ers played a lot of rookies and 2nd year players last year, sometimes by choice, sometimes forced by injuries. We'll see what happens, but I'm jazzed by the fact that they are one year (or more) ahead in the franchise rebuild/reload process.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I liked Jarrett Kingston, and he was quickly poached once ShanaLynch put him on the practice squad. Keeping him would have put our 2024 draft on a better footing, in my opinion. I agree that we might have an overload of talent on the offensive line, but that's a good problem to have, and not a bad one. We translated an overabundance of Linebacker talent into a 5th round pick that translated into a younger, bigger, faster KJ Wright (Jaden Duggar) by trading Dee Winters. Hopefully, maybe, if ShanaLych gets into a Jarrett Kingston rookie OLineman situation, they would opt for a trade (or cutting a veteran free agent) instead of putting the rookie on the practice squad.

Toth is an interesting prospect, I look forward to seeing how he blends in with the current OLine squad that we have. Between him being a depth piece versus a talented rookie - I'd rather keep a rookie OLineman though.

Something about Duggar just stands out to me. I think he's going to be an absolute stud after a year or so. He's a perfect fit for Morris's scheme, IMO.

yeah, it's a good problem to have but still a problem. Kyle usually rolls with experience. He might not let the young guys play in the pre season. Hahaha so teams can't see how they look. We'll probably keep 10 o line.

it'll be interesting if keep a 3rd qb on the active roster

I really like all our 2026 draft picks. I think - if all things go right with this draft class - it could be the best draft class in Kyle's career. After Adam Peters left, I think they changed a lot of what they did in the draft evaluation process. Just my opinion, but when he left, I think the 49ers started drafting better.

Usually problems have one or more solutions - hopefully one of those solutions results in more draft picks. But to your point, I think Kyle's going to go with what his position coaches say to him. I think he trusts Foerster enough to allow a rookies to play (Conner Colby) and same with KJ Wright regarding Duggar if he can beat out Greenlaw (god forbid if Greenlaw gets dinged too). 49ers played a lot of rookies and 2nd year players last year, sometimes by choice, sometimes forced by injuries. We'll see what happens, but I'm jazzed by the fact that they are one year (or more) ahead in the franchise rebuild/reload process.

YOU may be right, and I hope that you are.. bottom line is that Shanny needs to learn how to use the players he drafted instead of shelving them for weeks, then for a season or two, and forget that HE the players existed...

he keeps using excuses tha this guy or that guy has yet to learn his blocking scheme, or he needs to be a fine blocker.. hell, HE was the one who chose them, why did he not know that prior?

He wasted Ground Jordan's rookie season for whatever reason last year, then he comes back this year drafting another RB in the 3rd round..

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think it was more injuries to the WR and Aiyuk's absence that makes it look like McCaffrey declined. He'll be about 30 this year, I think he can play a couple more years if Kyle takes care of him better than he did in 2025. When the defense can load up on the run because you don't have WR threats, that's what will happen to your RB. Injuries to the OLine didn't help (Puni, Colby etc...) I hope the beefed up strength and conditioning team makes a difference in injuries this year.

He can play more than that as a slot wr.

CMC is a future Hall of Famer, and definitely has the talent to play in multiple positions. We just need to protect him from himself. Kaelon Black hopefully will do that for CMC. Cam Scattebo will be available in free agency (assuming all things go right for us) in 2029, hopefully CMC can play until then, or maybe we find a CMC 2.0 before CMC retires.

We have CMC under contract for 2 more years

Using him as a 3rd down back and passing game only RB is not a bad way to end his career with us

Let the younger guys take the pounding in the actual running game so we can keep the best part of CMC healthy

CMC should be used like Darren Sproles in his prime with Drew Brees (Brees is a great comp for Purdy as well)

Sproles 2 best years as a 3rd down specialist were 2011 and 2012

2011
87 rushing attempts v 86 receptions
603 rushing yards v 702 receiving yards
2 rushing TDs v 7 receiving TDs

2012
48 rushing attempts v 75 receptions
244 rushing yards v 667 receiving yards
1 rushing TD v 7 receiving TDs

Darren played till he was 36 (Eagles) and CMC is only 30 this year. I think CMC has a lot more in the tank if Kyle protects him from himself. I think CMC, can still perform at the starting level RB, easily for another two or three years. Maybe more if we can get him more rest during the season on top of developing our young OLInemen to be at the starter levels or better. I'm hoping Conner Colby and Dominik Puni keep progressing. If Kaelon Black or Jordan James can take some reps from CMC this season that will be fantastic in my book.

Whoever - "Shouldn't we get a cover safety at least by the 4th, s**t even on the 5th round?!"

Glynch - "Nah, my master (Shnanny) thinks our new DC is a genius, and just like our O lince coach, he'll turn bums into heroes"

Nobody gives a fvkk if a chef can turn water and a tomato can into a stew... how bout you just give a MFr proper ingredients to cook up a masterpiece. WTF is wrong with that

Hopefully our D line can get to opposing QBs before a WR goes past 20 yards our safeties ain't covering sh!t on the deep end

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Is McCaffrey on the decline or is it more about the interior OL being 💩

It's both.

Now, a declining McCaffrey is still better than most RBs in the league still. But for how long?

ShanaLynch RB draftees
2017 Joe Williams, round 4, pick 121
2018 No RBs
2019 (wideback) Deebo Samuel, round 2, pick 36
2020 No RBs (5 picks total)
2021 Trey Sermon, round 3, pick 88; Elija Mitchell round 6, pick 194
2022 Tyrion Davis-Price, round 3, pick 93
2023 No RBs
2024 Isaac Guerendo, round 4, pick 129
2025 Jordan James, round 5, pick 147
2026 Kaelon Black, round 3, pick 90

Originally posted by 9moon:
YOU may be right, and I hope that you are.. bottom line is that Shanny needs to learn how to use the players he drafted instead of shelving them for weeks, then for a season or two, and forget that HE the players existed...

he keeps using excuses tha this guy or that guy has yet to learn his blocking scheme, or he needs to be a fine blocker.. hell, HE was the one who chose them, why did he not know that prior?

He wasted Ground Jordan's rookie season for whatever reason last year, then he comes back this year drafting another RB in the 3rd round..

NineMooney! Don't forget Lawrence Phillips missing his assignment to pick up a blitz and Aeneas Williams blindsided Steve Young and well that was it for Steve Young for the rest of his life. I also remember some TE in some NFC championship game missing another block and pretty much ending the season of the 262nd pick in the draft that year. I think Kyle had concerns that Jordan wasn't picking up his assignments and you don't want to take chances with that with the health of your franchise QB. RB is a position where if they screw up it could be the end of the season if Purdy goes down the way Steve did on September 27, 1999.

Other than RB, Kyle's had rookies play (Conner Colby, Mykel Williams, Alfred Collins, Nick Martin, Upton Stout, CJ West, Marques Sigel).

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9moon:
YOU may be right, and I hope that you are.. bottom line is that Shanny needs to learn how to use the players he drafted instead of shelving them for weeks, then for a season or two, and forget that HE the players existed...

he keeps using excuses tha this guy or that guy has yet to learn his blocking scheme, or he needs to be a fine blocker.. hell, HE was the one who chose them, why did he not know that prior?

He wasted Ground Jordan's rookie season for whatever reason last year, then he comes back this year drafting another RB in the 3rd round..

NineMooney! Don't forget Lawrence Phillips missing his assignment to pick up a blitz and Aeneas Williams blindsided Steve Young and well that was it for Steve Young for the rest of his life. I also remember some TE in some NFC championship game missing another block and pretty much ending the season of the 262nd pick in the draft that year. I think Kyle had concerns that Jordan wasn't picking up his assignments and you don't want to take chances with that with the health of your franchise QB. RB is a position where if they screw up it could be the end of the season if Purdy goes down the way Steve did on September 27, 1999.

Other than RB, Kyle's had rookies play (Conner Colby, Mykel Williams, Alfred Collins, Nick Martin, Upton Stout, CJ West, Marques Sigel).

can you also name the RBs he's drafted since he's first year and how they were all placed on the Shanny Shelf? Was it they couldn't block or they could not run the ball?

as for the late L. Phillips, if you have to rely on his IQ to save the day, then that's on you.