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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Pearsall NEVER found the endzone. Not even 1 time. All year long. Plus he's always injured and missing games. That's not a 1st round pick. Mykel Williams is a beast at setting the edge with power and length. But not much pass rush ability. He had 1 sack. Now he has a knee injury and we don't know how much that will effect him. Because power, strength and setting the edge come a lot from having a very strong base (your legs). If you are injured or recovering you may not be the same. His greatest strength and reason for being out there may now be compromised.

Dude he was the 31st pick in the 1st rd, barely a 1st rd pick. Get over it.

JJ was 4th in the league in receiving TDs…should we pay him top 10 money??

BTJ went from 1,300 yards and 10 TDs to 700 yards and 2 TDs in 14 games.

You realize there's a connection between not playing due to an injury all yr (which you're clearly don't understand how a PCL affects a player) and not scoring a TD. I won't even get into the Williams injury.

Can you just admit you have no understanding of the nuances of different injuries.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 18, 2026 at 11:06 AM ]
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Now do the 2nd round for more laughs Though not as bad as 1st and 3rd rounds

Your list also doesn't include the additional picks traded away to move up for those players. Truly awful stuff man

Why would it? The post was about how bad our 3rd round picks were and I wanted to add context to that discussion.

And 2nd round picks aren't as bad for the simple fact that we haven't had a ton of them.

2018
Dante Pettis

2019
Deebo

2021
Aaron Banks

2022
Drake Jackson

2024
Renardo Green

2025
Alfred Collins

Pettis and Drake the only clear busts and both of those weren't talent issues. Pettis just didn't take the game seriously enough and Jackson couldn't stay healthy.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Pearsall NEVER found the endzone. Not even 1 time. All year long. Plus he's always injured and missing games. That's not a 1st round pick. Mykel Williams is a beast at setting the edge with power and length. But not much pass rush ability. He had 1 sack. Now he has a knee injury and we don't know how much that will effect him. Because power, strength and setting the edge come a lot from having a very strong base (your legs). If you are injured or recovering you may not be the same. His greatest strength and reason for being out there may now be compromised.

Dude he was the 31st pick in the 1st rd, barely a 1st rd pick. Get over it.

JJ was 4th in the league in receiving TDs…should we pay him top 10 money??

BTJ went from 1,300 yards and 10 TDs to 700 yards and 2 TDs in 14 games.

You realize there's a connection between not playing due to an injury all yr (which you're clearly don't understand how a PCL affects a player) and not scoring a TD. I won't even get into the Williams injury.

Can you just admit you have no understanding of the nuances of different injuries.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Pearsall NEVER found the endzone. Not even 1 time. All year long. Plus he's always injured and missing games. That's not a 1st round pick. Mykel Williams is a beast at setting the edge with power and length. But not much pass rush ability. He had 1 sack. Now he has a knee injury and we don't know how much that will effect him. Because power, strength and setting the edge come a lot from having a very strong base (your legs). If you are injured or recovering you may not be the same. His greatest strength and reason for being out there may now be compromised.

Dude he was the 31st pick in the 1st rd, barely a 1st rd pick. Get over it.

JJ was 4th in the league in receiving TDs…should we pay him top 10 money??

BTJ went from 1,300 yards and 10 TDs to 700 yards and 2 TDs in 14 games.

You realize there's a connection between not playing due to an injury all yr (which you're clearly don't understand how a PCL affects a player) and not scoring a TD. I won't even get into the Williams injury.

Can you just admit you have no understanding of the nuances of different injuries.
Yep can't understand why anyone even acknowledges he exists on this forum.
Originally posted by genus49:
Why would it? The post was about how bad our 3rd round picks were and I wanted to add context to that discussion.

And 2nd round picks aren't as bad for the simple fact that we haven't had a ton of them.

2018
Dante Pettis

2019
Deebo

2021
Aaron Banks

2022
Drake Jackson

2024
Renardo Green

2025
Alfred Collins

Pettis and Drake the only clear busts and both of those weren't talent issues. Pettis just didn't take the game seriously enough and Jackson couldn't stay healthy.

You answered the question yourself. The added picks surrendered adds context to how bad the 3rd round picks were, but it makes it worse; which is why I'm thinking you didn't want to provide that type of context lol

Pettis was also a trade up; just giving you more context
Originally posted by 49ers808:
You answered the question yourself. The added picks surrendered adds context to how bad the 3rd round picks were, but it makes it worse; which is why I'm thinking you didn't want to provide that type of context lol

Pettis was also a trade up; just giving you more context

What are at for % of flat out busts? 80% of our picks in rounds 1-3 in these 10 years?
Originally posted by 49ers808:
You answered the question yourself. The added picks surrendered adds context to how bad the 3rd round picks were, but it makes it worse; which is why I'm thinking you didn't want to provide that type of context lol

Pettis was also a trade up; just giving you more context

There's some bad picks in there 100%

I do think fans in here don't look at most of the teams and their picks….If they did, they would see a collection of mostly bad picks or players that amounted to not much all the same.

What I find very hypocritical in here, is we have fans telling all of us that we blow at drafting AND have a bad coach…yet most yrs we're going to the playoffs/NFCC or SB, So which is it? We can't have a s**t roster full of bad picks AND a horrible coach.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
You answered the question yourself. The added picks surrendered adds context to how bad the 3rd round picks were, but it makes it worse; which is why I'm thinking you didn't want to provide that type of context lol

Pettis was also a trade up; just giving you more context

There's some bad picks in there 100%

I do think fans in here don't look at most of the teams and their picks….If they did, they would see a collection of mostly bad picks or players that amounted to not much all the same.

What I find very hypocritical in here, is we have fans telling all of us that we blow at drafting AND have a bad coach…yet most yrs we're going to the playoffs/NFCC or SB, So which is it? We can't have a s**t roster full of bad picks AND a horrible coach.

It's a young talent deprived roster leaning heavily on old injured stars with an elite coach that makes up for it
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
You answered the question yourself. The added picks surrendered adds context to how bad the 3rd round picks were, but it makes it worse; which is why I'm thinking you didn't want to provide that type of context lol

Pettis was also a trade up; just giving you more context

There's some bad picks in there 100%

I do think fans in here don't look at most of the teams and their picks….If they did, they would see a collection of mostly bad picks or players that amounted to not much all the same.

What I find very hypocritical in here, is we have fans telling all of us that we blow at drafting AND have a bad coach…yet most yrs we're going to the playoffs/NFCC or SB, So which is it? We can't have a s**t roster full of bad picks AND a horrible coach.

It's a young talent deprived roster leaning heavily on old injured stars with an elite coach that makes up for it

This. I'm not one of those and I agree with you. Shanny is an elite coach but seems to be a terrible talent evaluator. Personally I believe that he's looking too much into guys who fit his scheme rather than just straight up talent. I think the scheme fitting is what causes all the reaching.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
This. I'm not one of those and I agree with you. Shanny is an elite coach but seems to be a terrible talent evaluator. Personally I believe that he's looking too much into guys who fit his scheme rather than just straight up talent. I think the scheme fitting is what causes all the reaching.

People don't seriously think Kyle is coaching the team, going to scout players in season, watching hours and hours of film on our players, other teams players and college players for the draft…then he's the person who drafts everyone?

folks gotta stop assuming everything is on Kyle. There's a f**k ton of people in the scouting department and FO guys who make a lot of money. Why would Jed be paying lynch as much as he's has to not do his job?
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
It's a young talent deprived roster leaning heavily on old injured stars with an elite coach that makes up for it

At one point this year we were top 5 in rookie snaps played, even more if you're talking about second year players.

yes the name recognition is with some "older" players, a lot of those guys didn't played full seasons this past yr.

I agree we need some blue chip guys to take over at some point…I think we gotta understand thats not an easy thing to do
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 18, 2026 at 4:29 PM ]
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by genus49:
Why would it? The post was about how bad our 3rd round picks were and I wanted to add context to that discussion.

And 2nd round picks aren't as bad for the simple fact that we haven't had a ton of them.

2018
Dante Pettis

2019
Deebo

2021
Aaron Banks

2022
Drake Jackson

2024
Renardo Green

2025
Alfred Collins

Pettis and Drake the only clear busts and both of those weren't talent issues. Pettis just didn't take the game seriously enough and Jackson couldn't stay healthy.

You answered the question yourself. The added picks surrendered adds context to how bad the 3rd round picks were, but it makes it worse; which is why I'm thinking you didn't want to provide that type of context lol

Pettis was also a trade up; just giving you more context

The post was about our 3rd round picks. If we start digging into all the trades it opens it up too much.

Feel free to look up all the trade details for each pick. I don't have the time for that. But it also won't tell us who we woudve drafted with the picks we traded away or who we would've drafted had we not traded up. Maybe it works out better, maybe not.

Is the Solomon Thomas pick suddenly a success because we traded down and got Fred Warner as part of that trade?
I think there's one universal golden rule in the NFL. Draft well and you will have good results. Do not draft well and you will not have good results. Obviously, there is more to it such as coaching, health, even some pure old good luck, but to me drafting well is the foundation.

The Lance trade really did hurt. Since the 20 draft it has been mostly meh with a few hits. 22 and 23 pretty horrible aside Purdy. 24 not looking to hot and 25 we don't know yet.

They need to turn in a great draft.
Justin Jefferson or bust, if lynch can't get it done he needs to be fired
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Justin Jefferson or bust, if lynch can't get it done he needs to be fired

Lol.
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