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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
#27,
A comp 4
Aiyuk
2027
2nd rounder

Doing that trade costs the 49ers about $50M in cap room, $30M from Crosby's salary and the $20M loss in cap room if Aiyuk is dealt pre June 1, plus I doubt Aiyuk holds much value or that a 1st, 2nd and 4th gets it done, they're gonna want 2 1sts IMO.

Ayiuk being removed from the equation, couldn't they redo Crosby deal to lower that hit? In the end I think the price will be too steep
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Originally posted by father49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'd be surprised if 9ers trade for him. Expensive trade comp and cap comp for a position that falls into second tier of needs.

I'm torn on this. One hand you're getting a proven stud who on the same DL as Bosa would create absolute havoc.

On the other hand we badly need young cheap talent and Nick and Maxx are heading into late 20s and both command huge $. Doesn't feel like you can keep both long term.

I think if you make a move for Maxx you have to go all in. Big $ in free agency to help the offense and hope you find lifting in a bottle with your later picks you keep.

If I had to put money on it I think we look into it but decide to build through the draft instead(a move like that also puts a lot of pressure on the coaching/front office)
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by father49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'd be surprised if 9ers trade for him. Expensive trade comp and cap comp for a position that falls into second tier of needs.

I'm torn on this. One hand you're getting a proven stud who on the same DL as Bosa would create absolute havoc.

On the other hand we badly need young cheap talent and Nick and Maxx are heading into late 20s and both command huge $. Doesn't feel like you can keep both long term.

I think if you make a move for Maxx you have to go all in. Big $ in free agency to help the offense and hope you find lifting in a bottle with your later picks you keep.

If I had to put money on it I think we look into it but decide to build through the draft instead(a move like that also puts a lot of pressure on the coaching/front office)

Pretty much where I'm at
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
You keep ignoring the salient points of that first draft and why they made the choices they did. They were completely rebuilding the roster which was one of the worst in the league. Both Lynch and Shanahan believed the best way to do that was to start rebuilding the defense. In hindsight, you can argue against the choices they made but at the time, Thomas and Foster were generally regarded as being pretty good players.

You also continue to ignore the oft repeated fact that Shanahan had his QB in mind, one that he worked with before and knew could operate his system, Kirk Cousins. If you're goal is to get the team back into contention as quickly as possible then the logical choice would be to go with the guy you know you can win with and not draft a player that had a kind of backyard style in college and might not be the best choice for the system you wanted to run.

The problem with your argument, and everyone else who tries to make it, is that aside from the Chiefs, there probably wasn't a single team that held Mahomes in as a high regard. Because he turned out to be such a good player it's easy to come in here and say, in hindsight, oh they should have picked Mahomes. but that's just altering the facts to suit the narrative.

Kirk Cousins has played some very good games in his career and it's not too much of a stretch to think if they had waited a year to get him and built up the roster some more, he might have ended up being very successful here. They might even have gotten that ring that everyone seems so desperate for.

But instead of looking at things through the lens of what was actually going on at the time, you continue to come in here and b***h about the same things over and over again, as if you brain was on some kind of a tape loop with only one song on it. I don't pay a lot of attention to your posts but in the handful I've scanned I don't recall seeing that you ever had a single positive thing to say about team. If you got off of your one-way track for a while and actually contributed something meaningful to the conversation you might have a better chance of convincing people in here that you something other than a troll.

Yes, this is fantastic roster building. Hope a QB will be available the next offseason. Brilliant

They don't need a new QB, Purdy is the franchise QB.

What??

We were talking about not taking a QB in 2017 because Cousins might be available in 2018

Geez. Were you still debating Smith over Rodgers in 2014? Upset about Giovanni Carmazzi in 2010?
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by father49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'd be surprised if 9ers trade for him. Expensive trade comp and cap comp for a position that falls into second tier of needs.

I'm torn on this. One hand you're getting a proven stud who on the same DL as Bosa would create absolute havoc.

On the other hand we badly need young cheap talent and Nick and Maxx are heading into late 20s and both command huge $. Doesn't feel like you can keep both long term.

I think if you make a move for Maxx you have to go all in. Big $ in free agency to help the offense and hope you find lifting in a bottle with your later picks you keep.

If I had to put money on it I think we look into it but decide to build through the draft instead(a move like that also puts a lot of pressure on the coaching/front office)

Pretty much where I'm at

Add in they probably wont deal him to us because of the rivalry.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'm worried about the fans and those 2 1sts

You know who has 2 1sts this yr….the Rams

but honestly I don't think he's worth that….great player but he's gonna be 30 and is hitting the high end of his contract. Parsons was 4 yrs younger when that trade was made. It's not an apples to apples thing imo. Maxx is closer in age to when Von got moved to LA for a 2nd and 3rd.
The rams don't need crosby. We do but he wanna get paid. 79.7 pff 2nd tackles 2nd assists 10 sacks getting doubled every play. Another 33m contract for 28 yo? Doesn't seem right. 3 12m dollar players 5 sacks each in mid 20s feels right.
If we trade for Maxx Crosby, the player we would almost certainly give the Raiders is Bryce Huff. Fills the same need but is on a flexible expiring contract. Helps the Raiders meet the spending floor and some leverage in negotiations with him. I believe that would open up $17M for us too which absorbs a decent chunk of Crosby's $30M cap hit already.

I would offer them our 2026 1st, 2027 3rd and Bryce Huff. They'll probably want two 1sts. Settle on 2026 1st, 2027 2nd and Bryce Huff, done.

I've been insisting we keep the 2026 1st to draft Trent's replacement but this changes everything IMO. Crosby at $29M for the next 4 years solves a LOT of problems.

Also people can keep saying "Davis will never trade with the 49ers loll" but this is a completely different world from 2018. Raiders are in Vegas now. Brady has a stake in the team. Screwing the 49ers over at the detriment of your own team makes zero sense for the Raiders.
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Feb 5, 2026 at 7:29 AM ]
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The rams don't need crosby. We do but he wanna get paid. 79.7 pff 2nd tackles 2nd assists 10 sacks getting doubled every play. Another 33m contract for 28 yo? Doesn't seem right. 3 12m dollar players 5 sacks each in mid 20s feels right.

He's already on a contract… for $29M a year over the next 4 seasons. That's a bargain. Money is not the issue here.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The rams don't need crosby. We do but he wanna get paid. 79.7 pff 2nd tackles 2nd assists 10 sacks getting doubled every play. Another 33m contract for 28 yo? Doesn't seem right. 3 12m dollar players 5 sacks each in mid 20s feels right.

He's already on a contract… for $29M a year over the next 4 seasons. That's a bargain. Money is not the issue here.

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Trading for Crosby would probably look like the Trey Lance-trade. That pretty much goes against what the team wants to do and add younger talent. Plus John Lynch and the 49ers do not want to go against 20 other teams. Crosby isn't worth that much draft capital. IMO

Hard pass on trading for Crosby.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The rams don't need crosby. We do but he wanna get paid. 79.7 pff 2nd tackles 2nd assists 10 sacks getting doubled every play. Another 33m contract for 28 yo? Doesn't seem right. 3 12m dollar players 5 sacks each in mid 20s feels right.

He's already on a contract… for $29M a year over the next 4 seasons. That's a bargain. Money is not the issue here.

Crosby is set to have a nearly $36 million cap hit in 2026. Bosa is $42 million. That would be $78 million for your 2 edge rushers. The cap is supposed to be $305 million. You can't tie up 25% of your cap space in 2 edge rushers.
Originally posted by genus49:
I'm torn on this. One hand you're getting a proven stud who on the same DL as Bosa would create absolute havoc.

On the other hand we badly need young cheap talent and Nick and Maxx are heading into late 20s and both command huge $. Doesn't feel like you can keep both long term.

I think if you make a move for Maxx you have to go all in. Big $ in free agency to help the offense and hope you find lifting in a bottle with your later picks you keep.

If I had to put money on it I think we look into it but decide to build through the draft instead(a move like that also puts a lot of pressure on the coaching/front office)

This team hasn't proven we can consistently draft young talent. We have had some hits but way more many misses.

This team doesn't sniff 4 wins without the trades for Trent Williams and CMC.

If we have the opportunity to add a top 3 edge and top 10 defensive player we do it and don't think twice about the draft capital.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Crosby is set to have a nearly $36 million cap hit in 2026. Bosa is $42 million. That would be $78 million for your 2 edge rushers. The cap is supposed to be $305 million. You can't tie up 25% of your cap space in 2 edge rushers.

Trade Bosa then for a 1st. He can't stay healthy and Maxx is probably the better player at this point.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Trading for Crosby would probably look like the Trey Lance-trade. That pretty much goes against what the team wants to do and add younger talent. Plus John Lynch and the 49ers do not want to go against 20 other teams. Crosby isn't worth that much draft capital. IMO

Hard pass on trading for Crosby.

Crosby is a million times better than ANY player we will take with #27. It's not even close.

He would probably be a bigger impact than any player we can get with our next two firsts and 2nds all combined.
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