John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
2017-- Ahkello Witherspoon; CJ Beathard

2018-- Fred Warner; Tavarius Moore

2019-- Jalen Hurd

2020-- No 3rd

2021-- Trey Sermon; Ambry Thomas

2022-- Tyrion Davis-Price; Danny Gray

2023-- Jake Moody; Cameron Latu

2024-- Dominick Puni

2025-- Nick Martin; Upton Stout

Other than lucking into Warner which is a once in a lifetime stumble. Not very good. Give up the 3rd and get back the compensatory 3rd. Not a good argument. You're saying they'll win the lottery more than once in a lifetime.

I player, maybe two if you count Puni out of 14 picks.

Now do the 1st and 2nd rounds. It's not much better.

I have no idea how these guys still have jobs. Any of us would be fired long ago if we failed so badly at our jobs.

I'm not saying fire the guy but this is a production type of business and it is a business.

This isn't youth ball when you tell Jr. "Good job buddy, way to try" or expect a pat on the back when you actually DO YOUR JOB

It feels like ownership is too busy empire building to care at the moment, as long as they're competitive they appear safe. I kinda miss the Jed boy cries of hanging championship banners when he fired harbaugh

Lol, no.

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
I feel like the inevitable conclusion to Lynch is Kyle finally getting fed up with the draft strategy and asking for full control. Probably next time he is up for a new contract maybe sooner. The best friendships in the world can't survive this level of failure. I personally like both but absolutely think Kyle is more valuable to the franchise.

I don't think this is the case as draft strategy is collaborative between them. By all measures they work well together.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

49ers fans: "Trading for one player wouldn't help the defense."

Jaelan Phillips tonight in his Eagles debut:
8 pressures
19.4% pressure rate
7 hurries
6 tackles
2 QB hits
1 fumble forced, 1 fumble recovery
Stuffed Josh Jacobs on a huge 4th and 1 pic.twitter.com/ifrlmLyndE

— Chase Senior (@Chase_Senior) November 11, 2025

For a 3rd round pick and if he signs elsewhere Eagles get the 3rd back. And, at $1.5 mil. 9ers 3rd rounder will be better than Eagles.

Not worth a 3rd if he was only going to be a one season rental. Even if they do get a 3rd round comp pick (which isn't guaranteed), it'd be at the end of the 3rd round in 2027.

You might want to go check who this front office has drafted with their 3rd round picks.

2017-- Ahkello Witherspoon; CJ Beathard

2018-- Fred Warner; Tavarius Moore

2019-- Jalen Hurd

2020-- No 3rd

2021-- Trey Sermon; Ambry Thomas

2022-- Tyrion Davis-Price; Danny Gray

2023-- Jake Moody; Cameron Latu

2024-- Dominick Puni

2025-- Nick Martin; Upton Stout

Other than lucking into Warner which is a once in a lifetime stumble. Not very good. Give up the 3rd and get back the compensatory 3rd. Not a good argument. You're saying they'll win the lottery more than once in a lifetime.

I'm still not seeing the benefit of giving away a 3rd rounder for a player that will be here for only 7-8 games in a season we're realistically not competing for a SB.

You're correct there is none,and does anyone really believe he'd have the same impact in SF surrounded by a skeleton crew as he will in Philly with their talent on D?

The benefit is not taking a Jake Moody or Cameron Latu in the 3rd round

Way to stick to the subject at hand.

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
I feel like the inevitable conclusion to Lynch is Kyle finally getting fed up with the draft strategy and asking for full control. Probably next time he is up for a new contract maybe sooner. The best friendships in the world can't survive this level of failure. I personally like both but absolutely think Kyle is more valuable to the franchise.

Kyle already has full control more or less.

As far as whose more valuable I don't think thats even debatable if Lynch left tomorrow it wouldn't make a difference one way or the other.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
I feel like the inevitable conclusion to Lynch is Kyle finally getting fed up with the draft strategy and asking for full control. Probably next time he is up for a new contract maybe sooner. The best friendships in the world can't survive this level of failure. I personally like both but absolutely think Kyle is more valuable to the franchise.

Kyle already has full control more or less.

As far as who's more valuable I don't think thats even debatable if Lynch left tomorrow it wouldn't make a difference one way or the other.

Actually the team would get better by that subtraction.

Originally posted by NoFunLeague:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
I feel like the inevitable conclusion to Lynch is Kyle finally getting fed up with the draft strategy and asking for full control. Probably next time he is up for a new contract maybe sooner. The best friendships in the world can't survive this level of failure. I personally like both but absolutely think Kyle is more valuable to the franchise.

Kyle already has full control more or less.

As far as who's more valuable I don't think thats even debatable if Lynch left tomorrow it wouldn't make a difference one way or the other.

Actually the team would get better by that subtraction.

Maybe depending on what type of GM they replaced hin with.

Absolutely brilliant personnel decisions.

Deforest Buckner - 42 tackles, 4.0 sacks, 33 pressures

Arik Armstead - 19 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 31 pressures

Talanoa Hufunga - 70 tackles, 2.0 sacks, 8 passes defensed

Maliek Collins - 19 tackles, 4.0 sacks, 21 pressures

Javon Hargrave - 32 tackles, 3.0 sacks, 21 pressures

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Absolutely brilliant personnel decisions.

Deforest Buckner - 42 tackles, 4.0 sacks, 33 pressures

Arik Armstead - 19 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 31 pressures

Talanoa Hufunga - 70 tackles, 2.0 sacks, 8 passes defensed

Maliek Collins - 19 tackles, 4.0 sacks, 21 pressures

Javon Hargrave - 32 tackles, 3.0 sacks, 21 pressures

Of course that ignores the fact that financial decisions greatly impacted each one of those moves.

-Easiest schedule in the league
-CMC playing at an MVP level
-Kittle healthy and dominant
-Oline healthy and played their best game of the year
-Purdy coming back
-Pearsall coming back
-Mac and B. Robinson are excellent backups

Defense has been decimated. Dee Winters, Ja'iyr Brown, Jordan Elliot, Kalia Davis, Upton Stout are all starters and wouldn't be backups on contending teams.

Jason Pinnock, Luke Gifford, Robert Beal, Clelin Ferrell are practice squad players who are forced to play meaningful snaps.

And Lynch is asleep for the trade deadline. Save the picks they say. So he can pick busts. Brilliant

This team is cooked.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by NoFunLeague:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
I feel like the inevitable conclusion to Lynch is Kyle finally getting fed up with the draft strategy and asking for full control. Probably next time he is up for a new contract maybe sooner. The best friendships in the world can't survive this level of failure. I personally like both but absolutely think Kyle is more valuable to the franchise.

Kyle already has full control more or less.

As far as who's more valuable I don't think thats even debatable if Lynch left tomorrow it wouldn't make a difference one way or the other.

Actually the team would get better by that subtraction.

Maybe depending on what type of GM they replaced hin with.

One that Kyle approves of.

Lynch may influence Kyle in certain situations but Shanahan has the final word.

Losing Adam Peters was a blow. He was very good in scouting and pro personnel. We need someone to replace him.

I don't think many fans realize the impact the drain on personnel in the FO has had on this franchise. You just can't keep training people and then losing them, only to start over again.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
-Easiest schedule in the league
-CMC playing at an MVP level
-Kittle healthy and dominant
-Oline healthy and played their best game of the year
-Purdy coming back
-Pearsall coming back
-Mac and B. Robinson are excellent backups

Defense has been decimated. Dee Winters, Ja'iyr Brown, Jordan Elliot, Kalia Davis, Upton Stout are all starters and wouldn't be backups on contending teams.

Jason Pinnock, Luke Gifford, Robert Beal, Clelin Ferrell are practice squad players who are forced to play meaningful snaps.

And Lynch is asleep for the trade deadline. Save the picks they say. So he can pick busts. Brilliant

This team is cooked.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
-Easiest schedule in the league
-CMC playing at an MVP level
-Kittle healthy and dominant
-Oline healthy and played their best game of the year
-Purdy coming back
-Pearsall coming back
-Mac and B. Robinson are excellent backups

Defense has been decimated. Dee Winters, Ja'iyr Brown, Jordan Elliot, Kalia Davis, Upton Stout are all starters and wouldn't be backups on contending teams.

Jason Pinnock, Luke Gifford, Robert Beal, Clelin Ferrell are practice squad players who are forced to play meaningful snaps.

And Lynch is asleep for the trade deadline. Save the picks they say. So he can pick busts. Brilliant

This team is cooked.

Can you name some back up players on the Rams or Seahawks that are better than all those players you listed? I just looked and nobody really stood out to me.

Again if the Rams were missing Stafford, Puka, Jared Verse, Poona Ford, Nate Landman you think their backups would have beaten us?

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
-Easiest schedule in the league
-CMC playing at an MVP level
-Kittle healthy and dominant
-Oline healthy and played their best game of the year
-Purdy coming back
-Pearsall coming back
-Mac and B. Robinson are excellent backups

Defense has been decimated. Dee Winters, Ja'iyr Brown, Jordan Elliot, Kalia Davis, Upton Stout are all starters and wouldn't be backups on contending teams.

Jason Pinnock, Luke Gifford, Robert Beal, Clelin Ferrell are practice squad players who are forced to play meaningful snaps.

And Lynch is asleep for the trade deadline. Save the picks they say. So he can pick busts. Brilliant

This team is cooked.

Can you name some back up players on the Rams or Seahawks that are better than all those players you listed? I just looked and nobody really stood out to me.

Again if the Rams were missing Stafford, Puka, Jared Verse, Poona Ford, Nate Landman you think their backups would have beaten us?

The Rams are no threat if Stafford isn't playing, never mind the rest of them.

Jason Pinnock has started like three years for the Giants. Now, the Giants were a dumpster fire but I wouldnt call him a practice squad player. Hes a solid safety backup.
Ferrell could be a solid rotational piece just like he was in 2023 for us until he was done for the year.

Gifford is a special teamer and Beal now yes theres a practice squad guy

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by NoFunLeague:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
I feel like the inevitable conclusion to Lynch is Kyle finally getting fed up with the draft strategy and asking for full control. Probably next time he is up for a new contract maybe sooner. The best friendships in the world can't survive this level of failure. I personally like both but absolutely think Kyle is more valuable to the franchise.

Kyle already has full control more or less.

As far as who's more valuable I don't think thats even debatable if Lynch left tomorrow it wouldn't make a difference one way or the other.

Actually the team would get better by that subtraction.

Maybe depending on what type of GM they replaced hin with.

One that Kyle approves of.

Lynch may influence Kyle in certain situations but Shanahan has the final word.

Losing Adam Peters was a blow. He was very good in scouting and pro personnel. We need someone to replace him.

I don't think many fans realize the impact the drain on personnel in the FO has had on this franchise. You just can't keep training people and then losing them, only to start over again.

I agree completely other than Peter's being much of a loss and I think Lynch's influence has been a detriment to Kyle on more than one occasion.