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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's correct.

I think you are on to something. "All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices." So they draft it earlier and higher and find much better results. Yes that's the point. We should draft it earlier and higher and get better results.

As for Trey Lance and trading 3 first round picks. This regime did that. Shany/Lynch did that and are accountable.

Why are you only arguing that about the O line. It's absolutely true about the secondary if not moreso.

As far as like Cooper DeJean - 2 - 40 overall - 2024. Sure you can make the argument that some earlier ones would be better. Like the Super Bowl Champion Eagles. This GM does a lot of things I don't like and think are wrong. But our offensive line is one big gaping hole outside of TW (getting older) and Puni who is awesome. So we just have to address it. Although they don't typically prioritize it high.

Our secondary actually has good CB's now. They cover well. Lenoir signed a huge deal. Renardo Green - 2 - 64 - 2024 was a high pick and he's really good. Mustapaha is very good when healthy. We added some S speed in the draft. I don't think our secondary is nearly as bad as our offensive line. So that's why I give focus to it.

I don't understand how we come to these conclusions, these players you mentioned contributed to a 6-11 season.

We all know Trent Williams is really good, and yet when he was out due to injuries we went 6-11. I don't see how we are crowning these players that have one or two seasons under their belt. J. Brown was thought to be a rising player after his rookie year and then the wheels fell off last year.

We are a 6-11 team, we are often injured so all players on the roster have to be ready to play.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's correct.

I think you are on to something. "All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices." So they draft it earlier and higher and find much better results. Yes that's the point. We should draft it earlier and higher and get better results.

As for Trey Lance and trading 3 first round picks. This regime did that. Shany/Lynch did that and are accountable.

Why are you only arguing that about the O line. It's absolutely true about the secondary if not moreso.

As far as like Cooper DeJean - 2 - 40 overall - 2024. Sure you can make the argument that some earlier ones would be better. Like the Super Bowl Champion Eagles. This GM does a lot of things I don't like and think are wrong. But our offensive line is one big gaping hole outside of TW (getting older) and Puni who is awesome. So we just have to address it. Although they don't typically prioritize it high.

Our secondary actually has good CB's now. They cover well. Lenoir signed a huge deal. Renardo Green - 2 - 64 - 2024 was a high pick and he's really good. Mustapaha is very good when healthy. We added some S speed in the draft. I don't think our secondary is nearly as bad as our offensive line. So that's why I give focus to it.

I don't understand how we come to these conclusions, these players you mentioned contributed to a 6-11 season.

We all know Trent Williams is really good, and yet when he was out due to injuries we went 6-11. I don't see how we are crowning these players that have one or two seasons under their belt. J. Brown was thought to be a rising player after his rookie year and then the wheels fell off last year.

We are a 6-11 team, we are often injured so all players on the roster have to be ready to play.

All we can do is go by what they showed so far. Green looks very good. Puni looks like a Pro Bowl guy. I don't think they are "responsible" for the 6 - 11 season. Other guys certainly are. But not them. Even the worst few teams in the league have good players on them. Even great ones. Just not enough and bad coaching too in some cases. Overall it's bad. But that doesn't mean they don't have good individual players. Even the Titans, Jaguars, Giants, Jaguars, Bears have good players. Just not enough of them. I wouldn't put it on our good players that we had a bad year. I put that on the bad players.

As far as injuries an older team has that happen a lot. That was the reason to draft front 7 heavily and get younger. We will be a young rebuilding team for a while. Until we mature. We need to do the other side of the lines now. In 2026 offensive line should be a heavy focus.
A real meeting of the minds in here
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
As far as like Cooper DeJean - 2 - 40 overall - 2024. Sure you can make the argument that some earlier ones would be better. Like the Super Bowl Champion Eagles. This GM does a lot of things I don't like and think are wrong. But our offensive line is one big gaping hole outside of TW (getting older) and Puni who is awesome. So we just have to address it. Although they don't typically prioritize it high.

Our secondary actually has good CB's now. They cover well. Lenoir signed a huge deal. Renardo Green - 2 - 64 - 2024 was a high pick and he's really good. Mustapaha is very good when healthy. We added some S speed in the draft. I don't think our secondary is nearly as bad as our offensive line. So that's why I give focus to it.

Who's the good 3rd CB? Tre Brown?

Mustapha looks a lot like McKivitz to me. Average.

For all the hate Brendel gets Brown was as bad if not worse last year.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
As far as like Cooper DeJean - 2 - 40 overall - 2024. Sure you can make the argument that some earlier ones would be better. Like the Super Bowl Champion Eagles. This GM does a lot of things I don't like and think are wrong. But our offensive line is one big gaping hole outside of TW (getting older) and Puni who is awesome. So we just have to address it. Although they don't typically prioritize it high.

Our secondary actually has good CB's now. They cover well. Lenoir signed a huge deal. Renardo Green - 2 - 64 - 2024 was a high pick and he's really good. Mustapaha is very good when healthy. We added some S speed in the draft. I don't think our secondary is nearly as bad as our offensive line. So that's why I give focus to it.

Who's the good 3rd CB? Tre Brown?

Mustapha looks a lot like McKivitz to me. Average.

For all the hate Brendel gets Brown was as bad if not worse last year.

Not every team has an awesome 3rd CB. Probably the little Smurf guy we drafted. That's the plan. 1 thing at a time. This was a front 7 heavy draft and we needed it. 2026 should be offensive line but I won't hold my breath. You can fill in a 3rd CB with some draft pick or a FA. You can get a #3. Not worried about that compared to our other needs.

Mustapha looks like a flying missile out there. That's the problem too. His play style can and will and has led to injuries. Nothing wrong with how he plays IMO. He plays way above his selection grade status. He's better than where he was picked. If healthy he's definitely one part of the Safety solution. Who is the other? You are right Brown struggles. He seems slow and is bad in coverage. Not as good around the line of scrimmage either when compared to Mustapha. He picked off Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Seemed to have been sliding downhill ever since. He's been regressing. Once looked a little promising. I think he's not fast enough on speed to cover well. Brown is more of a backup who is forced into starting. Because we don't have the other Safety spot filled yet.
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"We would like to pick offensive line. But it didn't fall to us. You have to stay true to your board."

John Lynch.

Ok let's do the tale of the tape. Let's examine this issue. Compared to another team which just WON the Super Bowl. Beat the Chiefs, Reid and Mahomes. Something we never do. Nick Sirianni became Eagles Coach from 2021 on up. So we start there for our comparison.

2021

Eagles: 2 - 37 overall - Landon Dickerson - LG - 6'6" 332 lbs. Alabama - Current starter. Very good player.
49ers: 2 - 48 overall - Aaron Banks - LG - 6'5" 325 lbs. Notre Dame - Was a starter. Left in FA. Not as bad as the WZ claims. But not great either.
49ers: 5 - 155 overall - Jaylon Moore - T - 6'4" 311 lbs. Western Michigan. A swing Tackle. Left in FA to the Chiefs. A decent to pretty good player.

2022

Eagles: 2 - 51 overall - Cam Jurgens - C - 6'3" 303 lbs. Nebraska - Current starter and very good player.
49ers: 4 - 134 overall - Spencer Burford - OL - 6'4" 300 lbs. Texas San Antonio -
49ers: 6 - 187 overall - Nick Zakelj - OL - 6'6" 316 lbs. Fordham. A decent player and may be a future starter.

2023

Eagles: 3 - 65 overall - Tyler Steen - RG - 6'6" 321 lbs. Alabama - Current Starter and very good player.
49ers: Zero offensive linemen selected.

2024

Eagles: 5 - 172 overall - Trevor Keegan - OG - 6'5" 306 lbs. Michigan - Backup to Landon Dickerson. 2nd string.
Eagles: 6 - 190 overall - Dylan McMahon - C - 6'3" 298 lbs. NC State - Practice squad for a while. Now with the Rams.
49ers: 3 - 86 overall - Dominic Puni - RG - 6'5" 313 lbs. Kansas. Looks to be a huge star. Pro Bowl level guy. Much better than where drafted.
49ers: 6 - 215 overall - Jarret Kingston - OG - 6'4" 305 lbs. USC - Listed as Carolina Panthers. Already gone.

2025

Eagles: 5 - 168 overall - Drew Kendall - C - 6'4" 299 lbs. Boston College - 2nd string to Cam Jurgens on depth chart at C.
Eagles: 6 - 191 overall - Myles Hinton - OT - 6'6" 342 lbs. Michigan - 2nd string to Lane Johnson on depth chart at RT.
Eagles: 6 - 207 overall - Cameron Williams - 6'5" 335 lbs. Texas - Backup OT.
49ers: 7 - 249 overall - Connor Colby - OG - 6'6" 310 lbs. Versatile backup who can play multiple positions.

** Eagles Prior regime picks.

Eagles: 2018 - 7 - 233 overall - Jordan Mailata - LT - 6'8" 366 lbs. Australian rules football. Obviously a star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

Eagles: 2013 - 1 - 4 overall - Lane Johnson - RT - 6'6" 325 lbs. Oklahoma. Big time star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

A basic look says the Eagles pick earlier more often and do better than we do on offensive line. They added their entire starting interior. LG, C, RG and all are very excellent players. The two Tackles are great but were picked by the prior regimes. But even then as an organization the Eagles valued offensive line a lot as they picked Lane Johnson high. They were willing to go all the way to Australian Rules Football to find a huge prospect in Mailata. Whether this regime or prior they clearly value it more than we do. Even this regime the starting interior 3 are their picks. They are all great. You can't say the same for us.

And the point of this was? Not like the 49ers picked a kicker over OL in this one. All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices.

We already know how bad the Lance trade hurt us, that includes having picks later in the draft and watching a lot of those guys come off the board ahead of us.

i think we can all agree they still have a lot of questions on the OL and it can get really scary real quick and has to be a priority next year similar to how the defense was this draft. I believe next years OT class looks a lot stronger so I imagine we'll hit it hard then.

For what it's worth, we say that every year.. or it a least feels that way. We need a center, a left guard sooner rather than later. And we need to plan for Trent's departure. We are playing with fire by thinking otherwise.

Sad thing is they might think they have all of this already on the team. We'll also need a RT because someone will overpay for McKivitz.
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"We would like to pick offensive line. But it didn't fall to us. You have to stay true to your board."

John Lynch.

Ok let's do the tale of the tape. Let's examine this issue. Compared to another team which just WON the Super Bowl. Beat the Chiefs, Reid and Mahomes. Something we never do. Nick Sirianni became Eagles Coach from 2021 on up. So we start there for our comparison.

2021

Eagles: 2 - 37 overall - Landon Dickerson - LG - 6'6" 332 lbs. Alabama - Current starter. Very good player.
49ers: 2 - 48 overall - Aaron Banks - LG - 6'5" 325 lbs. Notre Dame - Was a starter. Left in FA. Not as bad as the WZ claims. But not great either.
49ers: 5 - 155 overall - Jaylon Moore - T - 6'4" 311 lbs. Western Michigan. A swing Tackle. Left in FA to the Chiefs. A decent to pretty good player.

2022

Eagles: 2 - 51 overall - Cam Jurgens - C - 6'3" 303 lbs. Nebraska - Current starter and very good player.
49ers: 4 - 134 overall - Spencer Burford - OL - 6'4" 300 lbs. Texas San Antonio -
49ers: 6 - 187 overall - Nick Zakelj - OL - 6'6" 316 lbs. Fordham. A decent player and may be a future starter.

2023

Eagles: 3 - 65 overall - Tyler Steen - RG - 6'6" 321 lbs. Alabama - Current Starter and very good player.
49ers: Zero offensive linemen selected.

2024

Eagles: 5 - 172 overall - Trevor Keegan - OG - 6'5" 306 lbs. Michigan - Backup to Landon Dickerson. 2nd string.
Eagles: 6 - 190 overall - Dylan McMahon - C - 6'3" 298 lbs. NC State - Practice squad for a while. Now with the Rams.
49ers: 3 - 86 overall - Dominic Puni - RG - 6'5" 313 lbs. Kansas. Looks to be a huge star. Pro Bowl level guy. Much better than where drafted.
49ers: 6 - 215 overall - Jarret Kingston - OG - 6'4" 305 lbs. USC - Listed as Carolina Panthers. Already gone.

2025

Eagles: 5 - 168 overall - Drew Kendall - C - 6'4" 299 lbs. Boston College - 2nd string to Cam Jurgens on depth chart at C.
Eagles: 6 - 191 overall - Myles Hinton - OT - 6'6" 342 lbs. Michigan - 2nd string to Lane Johnson on depth chart at RT.
Eagles: 6 - 207 overall - Cameron Williams - 6'5" 335 lbs. Texas - Backup OT.
49ers: 7 - 249 overall - Connor Colby - OG - 6'6" 310 lbs. Versatile backup who can play multiple positions.

** Eagles Prior regime picks.

Eagles: 2018 - 7 - 233 overall - Jordan Mailata - LT - 6'8" 366 lbs. Australian rules football. Obviously a star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

Eagles: 2013 - 1 - 4 overall - Lane Johnson - RT - 6'6" 325 lbs. Oklahoma. Big time star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

A basic look says the Eagles pick earlier more often and do better than we do on offensive line. They added their entire starting interior. LG, C, RG and all are very excellent players. The two Tackles are great but were picked by the prior regimes. But even then as an organization the Eagles valued offensive line a lot as they picked Lane Johnson high. They were willing to go all the way to Australian Rules Football to find a huge prospect in Mailata. Whether this regime or prior they clearly value it more than we do. Even this regime the starting interior 3 are their picks. They are all great. You can't say the same for us.

And the point of this was? Not like the 49ers picked a kicker over OL in this one. All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices.

We already know how bad the Lance trade hurt us, that includes having picks later in the draft and watching a lot of those guys come off the board ahead of us.

i think we can all agree they still have a lot of questions on the OL and it can get really scary real quick and has to be a priority next year similar to how the defense was this draft. I believe next years OT class looks a lot stronger so I imagine we'll hit it hard then.

For what it's worth, we say that every year.. or it a least feels that way. We need a center, a left guard sooner rather than later. And we need to plan for Trent's departure. We are playing with fire by thinking otherwise.

I know I say it every year. Then the free ahency market told us the value of our OL. Same guys many dump on, the league views is viable starters. I never, ever would've imagined Jaylon Moore and Aaron Banks would garner contracts that have a combined worth of over 100 million. I knew McGlinchey was better than many thought and we see how Denver paid him. I still want a tackle, guard, and center in next years draft, but I'm also a little more confident in our guys in Shanahan is content there. We are an average Oline. But the Dline before the draft was a mess. The linebacker unit- not good outside of Warner.
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[ Edited by SanDiego49er on May 3, 2025 at 2:44 PM ]
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"We would like to pick offensive line. But it didn't fall to us. You have to stay true to your board."

John Lynch.

Ok let's do the tale of the tape. Let's examine this issue. Compared to another team which just WON the Super Bowl. Beat the Chiefs, Reid and Mahomes. Something we never do. Nick Sirianni became Eagles Coach from 2021 on up. So we start there for our comparison.

2021

Eagles: 2 - 37 overall - Landon Dickerson - LG - 6'6" 332 lbs. Alabama - Current starter. Very good player.
49ers: 2 - 48 overall - Aaron Banks - LG - 6'5" 325 lbs. Notre Dame - Was a starter. Left in FA. Not as bad as the WZ claims. But not great either.
49ers: 5 - 155 overall - Jaylon Moore - T - 6'4" 311 lbs. Western Michigan. A swing Tackle. Left in FA to the Chiefs. A decent to pretty good player.

2022

Eagles: 2 - 51 overall - Cam Jurgens - C - 6'3" 303 lbs. Nebraska - Current starter and very good player.
49ers: 4 - 134 overall - Spencer Burford - OL - 6'4" 300 lbs. Texas San Antonio -
49ers: 6 - 187 overall - Nick Zakelj - OL - 6'6" 316 lbs. Fordham. A decent player and may be a future starter.

2023

Eagles: 3 - 65 overall - Tyler Steen - RG - 6'6" 321 lbs. Alabama - Current Starter and very good player.
49ers: Zero offensive linemen selected.

2024

Eagles: 5 - 172 overall - Trevor Keegan - OG - 6'5" 306 lbs. Michigan - Backup to Landon Dickerson. 2nd string.
Eagles: 6 - 190 overall - Dylan McMahon - C - 6'3" 298 lbs. NC State - Practice squad for a while. Now with the Rams.
49ers: 3 - 86 overall - Dominic Puni - RG - 6'5" 313 lbs. Kansas. Looks to be a huge star. Pro Bowl level guy. Much better than where drafted.
49ers: 6 - 215 overall - Jarret Kingston - OG - 6'4" 305 lbs. USC - Listed as Carolina Panthers. Already gone.

2025

Eagles: 5 - 168 overall - Drew Kendall - C - 6'4" 299 lbs. Boston College - 2nd string to Cam Jurgens on depth chart at C.
Eagles: 6 - 191 overall - Myles Hinton - OT - 6'6" 342 lbs. Michigan - 2nd string to Lane Johnson on depth chart at RT.
Eagles: 6 - 207 overall - Cameron Williams - 6'5" 335 lbs. Texas - Backup OT.
49ers: 7 - 249 overall - Connor Colby - OG - 6'6" 310 lbs. Versatile backup who can play multiple positions.

** Eagles Prior regime picks.

Eagles: 2018 - 7 - 233 overall - Jordan Mailata - LT - 6'8" 366 lbs. Australian rules football. Obviously a star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

Eagles: 2013 - 1 - 4 overall - Lane Johnson - RT - 6'6" 325 lbs. Oklahoma. Big time star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

A basic look says the Eagles pick earlier more often and do better than we do on offensive line. They added their entire starting interior. LG, C, RG and all are very excellent players. The two Tackles are great but were picked by the prior regimes. But even then as an organization the Eagles valued offensive line a lot as they picked Lane Johnson high. They were willing to go all the way to Australian Rules Football to find a huge prospect in Mailata. Whether this regime or prior they clearly value it more than we do. Even this regime the starting interior 3 are their picks. They are all great. You can't say the same for us.

And the point of this was? Not like the 49ers picked a kicker over OL in this one. All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices.

We already know how bad the Lance trade hurt us, that includes having picks later in the draft and watching a lot of those guys come off the board ahead of us.

i think we can all agree they still have a lot of questions on the OL and it can get really scary real quick and has to be a priority next year similar to how the defense was this draft. I believe next years OT class looks a lot stronger so I imagine we'll hit it hard then.

For what it's worth, we say that every year.. or it a least feels that way. We need a center, a left guard sooner rather than later. And we need to plan for Trent's departure. We are playing with fire by thinking otherwise.

I know I say it every year. Then the free ahency market told us the value of our OL. Same guys many dump on, the league views is viable starters. I never, ever would've imagined Jaylon Moore and Aaron Banks would garner contracts that have a combined worth of over 100 million. I knew McGlinchey was better than many thought and we see how Denver paid him. I still want a tackle, guard, and center in next years draft, but I'm also a little more confident in our guys in Shanahan is content there. We are an average Oline. But the Dline before the draft was a mess. The linebacker unit- not good outside of Warner.

You can make the argument that the defensive front 7 was more pressing THIS YEAR and it's the route they took. That's fine. But you can't just keep ignoring the offensive line year after year. Every year Lynch says the same thing. "We liked several guys. The opportunity didn't present itself. You have to stay true to your board."

So if we are to believe Lynch the draft just didn't fall to us. 9 years in a row! Or they simply just don't value it much. Certainly not high up and early. If teams want offensive line they PICK it. The Eagles and Lions pick it. They don't argue that the draft didn't fall to them 9 years in a row.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"We would like to pick offensive line. But it didn't fall to us. You have to stay true to your board."

John Lynch.

Ok let's do the tale of the tape. Let's examine this issue. Compared to another team which just WON the Super Bowl. Beat the Chiefs, Reid and Mahomes. Something we never do. Nick Sirianni became Eagles Coach from 2021 on up. So we start there for our comparison.

2021

Eagles: 2 - 37 overall - Landon Dickerson - LG - 6'6" 332 lbs. Alabama - Current starter. Very good player.
49ers: 2 - 48 overall - Aaron Banks - LG - 6'5" 325 lbs. Notre Dame - Was a starter. Left in FA. Not as bad as the WZ claims. But not great either.
49ers: 5 - 155 overall - Jaylon Moore - T - 6'4" 311 lbs. Western Michigan. A swing Tackle. Left in FA to the Chiefs. A decent to pretty good player.

2022

Eagles: 2 - 51 overall - Cam Jurgens - C - 6'3" 303 lbs. Nebraska - Current starter and very good player.
49ers: 4 - 134 overall - Spencer Burford - OL - 6'4" 300 lbs. Texas San Antonio -
49ers: 6 - 187 overall - Nick Zakelj - OL - 6'6" 316 lbs. Fordham. A decent player and may be a future starter.

2023

Eagles: 3 - 65 overall - Tyler Steen - RG - 6'6" 321 lbs. Alabama - Current Starter and very good player.
49ers: Zero offensive linemen selected.

2024

Eagles: 5 - 172 overall - Trevor Keegan - OG - 6'5" 306 lbs. Michigan - Backup to Landon Dickerson. 2nd string.
Eagles: 6 - 190 overall - Dylan McMahon - C - 6'3" 298 lbs. NC State - Practice squad for a while. Now with the Rams.
49ers: 3 - 86 overall - Dominic Puni - RG - 6'5" 313 lbs. Kansas. Looks to be a huge star. Pro Bowl level guy. Much better than where drafted.
49ers: 6 - 215 overall - Jarret Kingston - OG - 6'4" 305 lbs. USC - Listed as Carolina Panthers. Already gone.

2025

Eagles: 5 - 168 overall - Drew Kendall - C - 6'4" 299 lbs. Boston College - 2nd string to Cam Jurgens on depth chart at C.
Eagles: 6 - 191 overall - Myles Hinton - OT - 6'6" 342 lbs. Michigan - 2nd string to Lane Johnson on depth chart at RT.
Eagles: 6 - 207 overall - Cameron Williams - 6'5" 335 lbs. Texas - Backup OT.
49ers: 7 - 249 overall - Connor Colby - OG - 6'6" 310 lbs. Versatile backup who can play multiple positions.

** Eagles Prior regime picks.

Eagles: 2018 - 7 - 233 overall - Jordan Mailata - LT - 6'8" 366 lbs. Australian rules football. Obviously a star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

Eagles: 2013 - 1 - 4 overall - Lane Johnson - RT - 6'6" 325 lbs. Oklahoma. Big time star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

A basic look says the Eagles pick earlier more often and do better than we do on offensive line. They added their entire starting interior. LG, C, RG and all are very excellent players. The two Tackles are great but were picked by the prior regimes. But even then as an organization the Eagles valued offensive line a lot as they picked Lane Johnson high. They were willing to go all the way to Australian Rules Football to find a huge prospect in Mailata. Whether this regime or prior they clearly value it more than we do. Even this regime the starting interior 3 are their picks. They are all great. You can't say the same for us.

And the point of this was? Not like the 49ers picked a kicker over OL in this one. All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices.

We already know how bad the Lance trade hurt us, that includes having picks later in the draft and watching a lot of those guys come off the board ahead of us.

i think we can all agree they still have a lot of questions on the OL and it can get really scary real quick and has to be a priority next year similar to how the defense was this draft. I believe next years OT class looks a lot stronger so I imagine we'll hit it hard then.

For what it's worth, we say that every year.. or it a least feels that way. We need a center, a left guard sooner rather than later. And we need to plan for Trent's departure. We are playing with fire by thinking otherwise.

I know I say it every year. Then the free ahency market told us the value of our OL. Same guys many dump on, the league views is viable starters. I never, ever would've imagined Jaylon Moore and Aaron Banks would garner contracts that have a combined worth of over 100 million. I knew McGlinchey was better than many thought and we see how Denver paid him. I still want a tackle, guard, and center in next years draft, but I'm also a little more confident in our guys in Shanahan is content there. We are an average Oline. But the Dline before the draft was a mess. The linebacker unit- not good outside of Warner.

You can make the argument that the defensive front 7 was more pressing THIS YEAR and it's the route they took. That's fine. But you can't just keep ignoring the offensive line year after year. Every year Lynch says the same thing. "We liked several guys. The opportunity didn't present itself. You have to stay true to your board."

So if we are to believe Lynch the draft just didn't fall to us. 9 years in a row! Or they simply just don't value it much. Certainly not high up and early. If teams want offensive line they PICK it. The Eagles and Lions pick it. They don't argue that the draft didn't fall to them 9 years in a row.

Lmao..I thought something was off when you started putting together coherent posts. So now you're basically copy and pasting reddit posters. Sad...

https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/s/apZjdkJkjp
[ Edited by GoreGoreGore on May 3, 2025 at 3:35 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"We would like to pick offensive line. But it didn't fall to us. You have to stay true to your board."

John Lynch.

Ok let's do the tale of the tape. Let's examine this issue. Compared to another team which just WON the Super Bowl. Beat the Chiefs, Reid and Mahomes. Something we never do. Nick Sirianni became Eagles Coach from 2021 on up. So we start there for our comparison.

2021

Eagles: 2 - 37 overall - Landon Dickerson - LG - 6'6" 332 lbs. Alabama - Current starter. Very good player.
49ers: 2 - 48 overall - Aaron Banks - LG - 6'5" 325 lbs. Notre Dame - Was a starter. Left in FA. Not as bad as the WZ claims. But not great either.
49ers: 5 - 155 overall - Jaylon Moore - T - 6'4" 311 lbs. Western Michigan. A swing Tackle. Left in FA to the Chiefs. A decent to pretty good player.

2022

Eagles: 2 - 51 overall - Cam Jurgens - C - 6'3" 303 lbs. Nebraska - Current starter and very good player.
49ers: 4 - 134 overall - Spencer Burford - OL - 6'4" 300 lbs. Texas San Antonio -
49ers: 6 - 187 overall - Nick Zakelj - OL - 6'6" 316 lbs. Fordham. A decent player and may be a future starter.

2023

Eagles: 3 - 65 overall - Tyler Steen - RG - 6'6" 321 lbs. Alabama - Current Starter and very good player.
49ers: Zero offensive linemen selected.

2024

Eagles: 5 - 172 overall - Trevor Keegan - OG - 6'5" 306 lbs. Michigan - Backup to Landon Dickerson. 2nd string.
Eagles: 6 - 190 overall - Dylan McMahon - C - 6'3" 298 lbs. NC State - Practice squad for a while. Now with the Rams.
49ers: 3 - 86 overall - Dominic Puni - RG - 6'5" 313 lbs. Kansas. Looks to be a huge star. Pro Bowl level guy. Much better than where drafted.
49ers: 6 - 215 overall - Jarret Kingston - OG - 6'4" 305 lbs. USC - Listed as Carolina Panthers. Already gone.

2025

Eagles: 5 - 168 overall - Drew Kendall - C - 6'4" 299 lbs. Boston College - 2nd string to Cam Jurgens on depth chart at C.
Eagles: 6 - 191 overall - Myles Hinton - OT - 6'6" 342 lbs. Michigan - 2nd string to Lane Johnson on depth chart at RT.
Eagles: 6 - 207 overall - Cameron Williams - 6'5" 335 lbs. Texas - Backup OT.
49ers: 7 - 249 overall - Connor Colby - OG - 6'6" 310 lbs. Versatile backup who can play multiple positions.

** Eagles Prior regime picks.

Eagles: 2018 - 7 - 233 overall - Jordan Mailata - LT - 6'8" 366 lbs. Australian rules football. Obviously a star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

Eagles: 2013 - 1 - 4 overall - Lane Johnson - RT - 6'6" 325 lbs. Oklahoma. Big time star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

A basic look says the Eagles pick earlier more often and do better than we do on offensive line. They added their entire starting interior. LG, C, RG and all are very excellent players. The two Tackles are great but were picked by the prior regimes. But even then as an organization the Eagles valued offensive line a lot as they picked Lane Johnson high. They were willing to go all the way to Australian Rules Football to find a huge prospect in Mailata. Whether this regime or prior they clearly value it more than we do. Even this regime the starting interior 3 are their picks. They are all great. You can't say the same for us.

And the point of this was? Not like the 49ers picked a kicker over OL in this one. All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices.

We already know how bad the Lance trade hurt us, that includes having picks later in the draft and watching a lot of those guys come off the board ahead of us.

i think we can all agree they still have a lot of questions on the OL and it can get really scary real quick and has to be a priority next year similar to how the defense was this draft. I believe next years OT class looks a lot stronger so I imagine we'll hit it hard then.

For what it's worth, we say that every year.. or it a least feels that way. We need a center, a left guard sooner rather than later. And we need to plan for Trent's departure. We are playing with fire by thinking otherwise.

I know I say it every year. Then the free ahency market told us the value of our OL. Same guys many dump on, the league views is viable starters. I never, ever would've imagined Jaylon Moore and Aaron Banks would garner contracts that have a combined worth of over 100 million. I knew McGlinchey was better than many thought and we see how Denver paid him. I still want a tackle, guard, and center in next years draft, but I'm also a little more confident in our guys in Shanahan is content there. We are an average Oline. But the Dline before the draft was a mess. The linebacker unit- not good outside of Warner.

You can make the argument that the defensive front 7 was more pressing THIS YEAR and it's the route they took. That's fine. But you can't just keep ignoring the offensive line year after year. Every year Lynch says the same thing. "We liked several guys. The opportunity didn't present itself. You have to stay true to your board."

So if we are to believe Lynch the draft just didn't fall to us. 9 years in a row! Or they simply just don't value it much. Certainly not high up and early. If teams want offensive line they PICK it. The Eagles and Lions pick it. They don't argue that the draft didn't fall to them 9 years in a row.

Yes I thinking kicking the can down the road with the OL can bite us in the butt VERY quickly and I sure hope we have a legit plan and not something that we'll have to panic pivot off of.

We all better hope Trent's plan to play until he's 40 is legit and that he is able to stay healthy and playing at a level we've been used to with him because if we blink we could be looking at major holes at both OT spots and C. I think LG is easy enough to plug up whether with Bartch, Burford or one of the younger guys(or via draft pick next year)

Playing OT is another thing all together. We just lost our swing OT who after some early struggles finally looked solid out there once Trent got hurt. McKivitz is going into the last year of his deal.

Next year's class looks good on paper now, we'll see how it looks come draft time and as much as I'd love to land an elite OT to replace Trent/McKivitz…I don't want us having another top pick next year. I want us in the playoffs and hopefully making another run at it. Whether that happens we'll see.

But as much as Kyle and Brock can cover up on offense, if they don't at least make some serious adjustments with pass protection rules, we're in danger in key moments and if playing from behind. Gotta eliminate those weaknesses.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"We would like to pick offensive line. But it didn't fall to us. You have to stay true to your board."

John Lynch.

Ok let's do the tale of the tape. Let's examine this issue. Compared to another team which just WON the Super Bowl. Beat the Chiefs, Reid and Mahomes. Something we never do. Nick Sirianni became Eagles Coach from 2021 on up. So we start there for our comparison.

2021

Eagles: 2 - 37 overall - Landon Dickerson - LG - 6'6" 332 lbs. Alabama - Current starter. Very good player.
49ers: 2 - 48 overall - Aaron Banks - LG - 6'5" 325 lbs. Notre Dame - Was a starter. Left in FA. Not as bad as the WZ claims. But not great either.
49ers: 5 - 155 overall - Jaylon Moore - T - 6'4" 311 lbs. Western Michigan. A swing Tackle. Left in FA to the Chiefs. A decent to pretty good player.

2022

Eagles: 2 - 51 overall - Cam Jurgens - C - 6'3" 303 lbs. Nebraska - Current starter and very good player.
49ers: 4 - 134 overall - Spencer Burford - OL - 6'4" 300 lbs. Texas San Antonio -
49ers: 6 - 187 overall - Nick Zakelj - OL - 6'6" 316 lbs. Fordham. A decent player and may be a future starter.

2023

Eagles: 3 - 65 overall - Tyler Steen - RG - 6'6" 321 lbs. Alabama - Current Starter and very good player.
49ers: Zero offensive linemen selected.

2024

Eagles: 5 - 172 overall - Trevor Keegan - OG - 6'5" 306 lbs. Michigan - Backup to Landon Dickerson. 2nd string.
Eagles: 6 - 190 overall - Dylan McMahon - C - 6'3" 298 lbs. NC State - Practice squad for a while. Now with the Rams.
49ers: 3 - 86 overall - Dominic Puni - RG - 6'5" 313 lbs. Kansas. Looks to be a huge star. Pro Bowl level guy. Much better than where drafted.
49ers: 6 - 215 overall - Jarret Kingston - OG - 6'4" 305 lbs. USC - Listed as Carolina Panthers. Already gone.

2025

Eagles: 5 - 168 overall - Drew Kendall - C - 6'4" 299 lbs. Boston College - 2nd string to Cam Jurgens on depth chart at C.
Eagles: 6 - 191 overall - Myles Hinton - OT - 6'6" 342 lbs. Michigan - 2nd string to Lane Johnson on depth chart at RT.
Eagles: 6 - 207 overall - Cameron Williams - 6'5" 335 lbs. Texas - Backup OT.
49ers: 7 - 249 overall - Connor Colby - OG - 6'6" 310 lbs. Versatile backup who can play multiple positions.

** Eagles Prior regime picks.

Eagles: 2018 - 7 - 233 overall - Jordan Mailata - LT - 6'8" 366 lbs. Australian rules football. Obviously a star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

Eagles: 2013 - 1 - 4 overall - Lane Johnson - RT - 6'6" 325 lbs. Oklahoma. Big time star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

A basic look says the Eagles pick earlier more often and do better than we do on offensive line. They added their entire starting interior. LG, C, RG and all are very excellent players. The two Tackles are great but were picked by the prior regimes. But even then as an organization the Eagles valued offensive line a lot as they picked Lane Johnson high. They were willing to go all the way to Australian Rules Football to find a huge prospect in Mailata. Whether this regime or prior they clearly value it more than we do. Even this regime the starting interior 3 are their picks. They are all great. You can't say the same for us.

And the point of this was? Not like the 49ers picked a kicker over OL in this one. All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices.

We already know how bad the Lance trade hurt us, that includes having picks later in the draft and watching a lot of those guys come off the board ahead of us.

i think we can all agree they still have a lot of questions on the OL and it can get really scary real quick and has to be a priority next year similar to how the defense was this draft. I believe next years OT class looks a lot stronger so I imagine we'll hit it hard then.

For what it's worth, we say that every year.. or it a least feels that way. We need a center, a left guard sooner rather than later. And we need to plan for Trent's departure. We are playing with fire by thinking otherwise.

I know I say it every year. Then the free ahency market told us the value of our OL. Same guys many dump on, the league views is viable starters. I never, ever would've imagined Jaylon Moore and Aaron Banks would garner contracts that have a combined worth of over 100 million. I knew McGlinchey was better than many thought and we see how Denver paid him. I still want a tackle, guard, and center in next years draft, but I'm also a little more confident in our guys in Shanahan is content there. We are an average Oline. But the Dline before the draft was a mess. The linebacker unit- not good outside of Warner.

You can make the argument that the defensive front 7 was more pressing THIS YEAR and it's the route they took. That's fine. But you can't just keep ignoring the offensive line year after year. Every year Lynch says the same thing. "We liked several guys. The opportunity didn't present itself. You have to stay true to your board."

So if we are to believe Lynch the draft just didn't fall to us. 9 years in a row! Or they simply just don't value it much. Certainly not high up and early. If teams want offensive line they PICK it. The Eagles and Lions pick it. They don't argue that the draft didn't fall to them 9 years in a row.

Lmao..I thought something was off when you started putting together coherent posts. So now you're basically copy and pasting reddit posters. Sad...

https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/s/apZjdkJkjp

Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"We would like to pick offensive line. But it didn't fall to us. You have to stay true to your board."

John Lynch.

Ok let's do the tale of the tape. Let's examine this issue. Compared to another team which just WON the Super Bowl. Beat the Chiefs, Reid and Mahomes. Something we never do. Nick Sirianni became Eagles Coach from 2021 on up. So we start there for our comparison.

2021

Eagles: 2 - 37 overall - Landon Dickerson - LG - 6'6" 332 lbs. Alabama - Current starter. Very good player.
49ers: 2 - 48 overall - Aaron Banks - LG - 6'5" 325 lbs. Notre Dame - Was a starter. Left in FA. Not as bad as the WZ claims. But not great either.
49ers: 5 - 155 overall - Jaylon Moore - T - 6'4" 311 lbs. Western Michigan. A swing Tackle. Left in FA to the Chiefs. A decent to pretty good player.

2022

Eagles: 2 - 51 overall - Cam Jurgens - C - 6'3" 303 lbs. Nebraska - Current starter and very good player.
49ers: 4 - 134 overall - Spencer Burford - OL - 6'4" 300 lbs. Texas San Antonio -
49ers: 6 - 187 overall - Nick Zakelj - OL - 6'6" 316 lbs. Fordham. A decent player and may be a future starter.

2023

Eagles: 3 - 65 overall - Tyler Steen - RG - 6'6" 321 lbs. Alabama - Current Starter and very good player.
49ers: Zero offensive linemen selected.

2024

Eagles: 5 - 172 overall - Trevor Keegan - OG - 6'5" 306 lbs. Michigan - Backup to Landon Dickerson. 2nd string.
Eagles: 6 - 190 overall - Dylan McMahon - C - 6'3" 298 lbs. NC State - Practice squad for a while. Now with the Rams.
49ers: 3 - 86 overall - Dominic Puni - RG - 6'5" 313 lbs. Kansas. Looks to be a huge star. Pro Bowl level guy. Much better than where drafted.
49ers: 6 - 215 overall - Jarret Kingston - OG - 6'4" 305 lbs. USC - Listed as Carolina Panthers. Already gone.

2025

Eagles: 5 - 168 overall - Drew Kendall - C - 6'4" 299 lbs. Boston College - 2nd string to Cam Jurgens on depth chart at C.
Eagles: 6 - 191 overall - Myles Hinton - OT - 6'6" 342 lbs. Michigan - 2nd string to Lane Johnson on depth chart at RT.
Eagles: 6 - 207 overall - Cameron Williams - 6'5" 335 lbs. Texas - Backup OT.
49ers: 7 - 249 overall - Connor Colby - OG - 6'6" 310 lbs. Versatile backup who can play multiple positions.

** Eagles Prior regime picks.

Eagles: 2018 - 7 - 233 overall - Jordan Mailata - LT - 6'8" 366 lbs. Australian rules football. Obviously a star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

Eagles: 2013 - 1 - 4 overall - Lane Johnson - RT - 6'6" 325 lbs. Oklahoma. Big time star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

A basic look says the Eagles pick earlier more often and do better than we do on offensive line. They added their entire starting interior. LG, C, RG and all are very excellent players. The two Tackles are great but were picked by the prior regimes. But even then as an organization the Eagles valued offensive line a lot as they picked Lane Johnson high. They were willing to go all the way to Australian Rules Football to find a huge prospect in Mailata. Whether this regime or prior they clearly value it more than we do. Even this regime the starting interior 3 are their picks. They are all great. You can't say the same for us.

And the point of this was? Not like the 49ers picked a kicker over OL in this one. All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices.

We already know how bad the Lance trade hurt us, that includes having picks later in the draft and watching a lot of those guys come off the board ahead of us.

i think we can all agree they still have a lot of questions on the OL and it can get really scary real quick and has to be a priority next year similar to how the defense was this draft. I believe next years OT class looks a lot stronger so I imagine we'll hit it hard then.

For what it's worth, we say that every year.. or it a least feels that way. We need a center, a left guard sooner rather than later. And we need to plan for Trent's departure. We are playing with fire by thinking otherwise.

I know I say it every year. Then the free ahency market told us the value of our OL. Same guys many dump on, the league views is viable starters. I never, ever would've imagined Jaylon Moore and Aaron Banks would garner contracts that have a combined worth of over 100 million. I knew McGlinchey was better than many thought and we see how Denver paid him. I still want a tackle, guard, and center in next years draft, but I'm also a little more confident in our guys in Shanahan is content there. We are an average Oline. But the Dline before the draft was a mess. The linebacker unit- not good outside of Warner.

You can make the argument that the defensive front 7 was more pressing THIS YEAR and it's the route they took. That's fine. But you can't just keep ignoring the offensive line year after year. Every year Lynch says the same thing. "We liked several guys. The opportunity didn't present itself. You have to stay true to your board."

So if we are to believe Lynch the draft just didn't fall to us. 9 years in a row! Or they simply just don't value it much. Certainly not high up and early. If teams want offensive line they PICK it. The Eagles and Lions pick it. They don't argue that the draft didn't fall to them 9 years in a row.

Yes I thinking kicking the can down the road with the OL can bite us in the butt VERY quickly and I sure hope we have a legit plan and not something that we'll have to panic pivot off of.

We all better hope Trent's plan to play until he's 40 is legit and that he is able to stay healthy and playing at a level we've been used to with him because if we blink we could be looking at major holes at both OT spots and C. I think LG is easy enough to plug up whether with Bartch, Burford or one of the younger guys(or via draft pick next year)

Playing OT is another thing all together. We just lost our swing OT who after some early struggles finally looked solid out there once Trent got hurt. McKivitz is going into the last year of his deal.

Next year's class looks good on paper now, we'll see how it looks come draft time and as much as I'd love to land an elite OT to replace Trent/McKivitz…I don't want us having another top pick next year. I want us in the playoffs and hopefully making another run at it. Whether that happens we'll see.

But as much as Kyle and Brock can cover up on offense, if they don't at least make some serious adjustments with pass protection rules, we're in danger in key moments and if playing from behind. Gotta eliminate those weaknesses.

That's my main thing. At some point you just have to, have to, have to PICK offensive line. None of them are perfect. The draft also never falls perfectly in any way. But if you do pick even the imperfect but good ones. You end up with a good and younger overall offensive line. That's how the Eagles an Lions do it. They just keep picking it. Miss on some. Hit on some. Some leave in FA. But they keep restocking it. That's the point. I really hope Lynch and Shany will overcome their fears of finding the perfect prospect. Forget that and just build a good, talented, young offensive line. Next year should be like this year of picking the front 7 over and over. But reverse and pick offensive line over and over in the early picks. They will hit on some and be glad.

I'm actually ok with this years draft in some ways. Because we had gaping holes in the front 7. The defensive line and LB's group are much improved if we hit on some of those. Which is fine and even good. Just don't keep ignoring the offensive line. Or not picking it high. It's one of the things that frustrates me the most about these two. Like those great Dallas lines back in the day. That helped both Aikman and Smith. A brick wall in front of you makes for a very tough team to beat. If you can't get to them it's tough to beat them.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on May 3, 2025 at 5:22 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
"We would like to pick offensive line. But it didn't fall to us. You have to stay true to your board."

John Lynch.

Ok let's do the tale of the tape. Let's examine this issue. Compared to another team which just WON the Super Bowl. Beat the Chiefs, Reid and Mahomes. Something we never do. Nick Sirianni became Eagles Coach from 2021 on up. So we start there for our comparison.

2021

Eagles: 2 - 37 overall - Landon Dickerson - LG - 6'6" 332 lbs. Alabama - Current starter. Very good player.
49ers: 2 - 48 overall - Aaron Banks - LG - 6'5" 325 lbs. Notre Dame - Was a starter. Left in FA. Not as bad as the WZ claims. But not great either.
49ers: 5 - 155 overall - Jaylon Moore - T - 6'4" 311 lbs. Western Michigan. A swing Tackle. Left in FA to the Chiefs. A decent to pretty good player.

2022

Eagles: 2 - 51 overall - Cam Jurgens - C - 6'3" 303 lbs. Nebraska - Current starter and very good player.
49ers: 4 - 134 overall - Spencer Burford - OL - 6'4" 300 lbs. Texas San Antonio -
49ers: 6 - 187 overall - Nick Zakelj - OL - 6'6" 316 lbs. Fordham. A decent player and may be a future starter.

2023

Eagles: 3 - 65 overall - Tyler Steen - RG - 6'6" 321 lbs. Alabama - Current Starter and very good player.
49ers: Zero offensive linemen selected.

2024

Eagles: 5 - 172 overall - Trevor Keegan - OG - 6'5" 306 lbs. Michigan - Backup to Landon Dickerson. 2nd string.
Eagles: 6 - 190 overall - Dylan McMahon - C - 6'3" 298 lbs. NC State - Practice squad for a while. Now with the Rams.
49ers: 3 - 86 overall - Dominic Puni - RG - 6'5" 313 lbs. Kansas. Looks to be a huge star. Pro Bowl level guy. Much better than where drafted.
49ers: 6 - 215 overall - Jarret Kingston - OG - 6'4" 305 lbs. USC - Listed as Carolina Panthers. Already gone.

2025

Eagles: 5 - 168 overall - Drew Kendall - C - 6'4" 299 lbs. Boston College - 2nd string to Cam Jurgens on depth chart at C.
Eagles: 6 - 191 overall - Myles Hinton - OT - 6'6" 342 lbs. Michigan - 2nd string to Lane Johnson on depth chart at RT.
Eagles: 6 - 207 overall - Cameron Williams - 6'5" 335 lbs. Texas - Backup OT.
49ers: 7 - 249 overall - Connor Colby - OG - 6'6" 310 lbs. Versatile backup who can play multiple positions.

** Eagles Prior regime picks.

Eagles: 2018 - 7 - 233 overall - Jordan Mailata - LT - 6'8" 366 lbs. Australian rules football. Obviously a star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

Eagles: 2013 - 1 - 4 overall - Lane Johnson - RT - 6'6" 325 lbs. Oklahoma. Big time star player. Picked by prior regime. Before Sirianni was there.

A basic look says the Eagles pick earlier more often and do better than we do on offensive line. They added their entire starting interior. LG, C, RG and all are very excellent players. The two Tackles are great but were picked by the prior regimes. But even then as an organization the Eagles valued offensive line a lot as they picked Lane Johnson high. They were willing to go all the way to Australian Rules Football to find a huge prospect in Mailata. Whether this regime or prior they clearly value it more than we do. Even this regime the starting interior 3 are their picks. They are all great. You can't say the same for us.

And the point of this was? Not like the 49ers picked a kicker over OL in this one. All the best Eagles players were drafted ahead of our choices.

We already know how bad the Lance trade hurt us, that includes having picks later in the draft and watching a lot of those guys come off the board ahead of us.

i think we can all agree they still have a lot of questions on the OL and it can get really scary real quick and has to be a priority next year similar to how the defense was this draft. I believe next years OT class looks a lot stronger so I imagine we'll hit it hard then.

For what it's worth, we say that every year.. or it a least feels that way. We need a center, a left guard sooner rather than later. And we need to plan for Trent's departure. We are playing with fire by thinking otherwise.

I know I say it every year. Then the free ahency market told us the value of our OL. Same guys many dump on, the league views is viable starters. I never, ever would've imagined Jaylon Moore and Aaron Banks would garner contracts that have a combined worth of over 100 million. I knew McGlinchey was better than many thought and we see how Denver paid him. I still want a tackle, guard, and center in next years draft, but I'm also a little more confident in our guys in Shanahan is content there. We are an average Oline. But the Dline before the draft was a mess. The linebacker unit- not good outside of Warner.

You can make the argument that the defensive front 7 was more pressing THIS YEAR and it's the route they took. That's fine. But you can't just keep ignoring the offensive line year after year. Every year Lynch says the same thing. "We liked several guys. The opportunity didn't present itself. You have to stay true to your board."

So if we are to believe Lynch the draft just didn't fall to us. 9 years in a row! Or they simply just don't value it much. Certainly not high up and early. If teams want offensive line they PICK it. The Eagles and Lions pick it. They don't argue that the draft didn't fall to them 9 years in a row.

Yes I thinking kicking the can down the road with the OL can bite us in the butt VERY quickly and I sure hope we have a legit plan and not something that we'll have to panic pivot off of.

We all better hope Trent's plan to play until he's 40 is legit and that he is able to stay healthy and playing at a level we've been used to with him because if we blink we could be looking at major holes at both OT spots and C. I think LG is easy enough to plug up whether with Bartch, Burford or one of the younger guys(or via draft pick next year)

Playing OT is another thing all together. We just lost our swing OT who after some early struggles finally looked solid out there once Trent got hurt. McKivitz is going into the last year of his deal.

Next year's class looks good on paper now, we'll see how it looks come draft time and as much as I'd love to land an elite OT to replace Trent/McKivitz…I don't want us having another top pick next year. I want us in the playoffs and hopefully making another run at it. Whether that happens we'll see.

But as much as Kyle and Brock can cover up on offense, if they don't at least make some serious adjustments with pass protection rules, we're in danger in key moments and if playing from behind. Gotta eliminate those weaknesses.

That's my main thing. At some point you just have to, have to, have to PICK offensive line. None of them are perfect. The draft also never falls perfectly in any way. But if you do pick even the imperfect but good ones. You end up with a good and younger overall offensive line. That's how the Eagles an Lions do it. They just keep picking it. Miss on some. Hit on some. Some leave in FA. But they keep restocking it. That's the point. I really hope Lynch and Shany will overcome their fears of finding the perfect prospect. Forget that and just build a good, talented, young offensive line. Next year should be like this year of picking the front 7 over and over. But reverse and pick offensive line over and over in the early picks. They will hit on some and be glad.

I'm actually ok with this years draft in some ways. Because we had gaping holes in the front 7. The defensive line and LB's group are much improved if we hit on some of those. Which is fine and even good. Just don't keep ignoring the offensive line. Or not picking it high. It's one of the things that frustrates me the most about these two. Like those great Dallas lines back in the day. That helped both Aikman and Smith. A brick wall in front of you makes for a very tough team to beat. If you can't get to them it's tough to beat them.

Overcome there fears of finding the perfect prospect? Did you get amnesia and forget about Puni? Possibly the top IOL pick of 2024
Originally posted by walker807:
Overcome there fears of finding the perfect prospect? Did you get amnesia and forget about Puni? Possibly the top IOL pick of 2024

The excuse Lynch uses every single year is this. "There were several guys we were interested in. The opportunity didn't present itself. You have to stick true to your board." The draft didn't fall to him in each round in other words. To pick more offensive line early. Or to emphasize it.

I've said many times Puni is awesome. Better than where picked by far. A Pro Bowl level player. Maybe one of the best in the draft that year. What's their excuse all the other years? They literally have drafted 9 years now and got 1 Puni. Some years they don't even pick offensive line. I mean at all. Look up their drafts. So you can't go by 1 year where they hit on something big. They mostly don't even pick it often and certainly not high in the draft. It's just not emphasized by this regime. They got lucky with Puni too. He's far better than where he was picked. He would go much higher and not be available in the 3rd round if that draft was done over again.
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