We had a big problem our WR!

Originally posted by Hitman49:

This starting trio is as bad as it gets when comparing them with other teams trios. But we cannot put all the blame on them. Gabbert has had tunnel vision thus far in pre season. McDonald has had the most targets by far.

I wonder why Gabbert Always target at TE be like McDonald and Cleke. I see why WRS don't have enough catch the ball and TD. Smh. We are weak our problem is WRS.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Until there is some quality play at QB it wont matter much who the WRs are. Larry Fitzgerald looked absolutely washed up, like his career was ending when the Cardinals had a revolving door at QB. Last season at 31 he had one of the best years of his career with Carson Palmer starting.






Generally speaking its the QB that makes the WR and not the other way around. When Big Ben went down in Pittsburgh and Vick and Landry Jones stepped in, Antonio Brown's number suffered significantly. Did he suddenly lose the ability to get open in that time?



I think the passing numbers will always be iffy as long as the QB position remains a question mark.


The way I look at it, they have to identify who their QB is going forward into the future and then add weapons and build an offense around their skillset. Figure out what that guy's strengths are and then add the pieces that best fit with what he likes to do.

Right. Exactly it.

We had a top five wr corps two years ago and went 8-8. so it is not how many top WR's you have its how you use them.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Until there is some quality play at QB it wont matter much who the WRs are. Larry Fitzgerald looked absolutely washed up, like his career was ending when the Cardinals had a revolving door at QB. Last season at 31 he had one of the best years of his career with Carson Palmer starting.




Generally speaking its the QB that makes the WR and not the other way around. When Big Ben went down in Pittsburgh and Vick and Landry Jones stepped in, Antonio Brown's number suffered significantly. Did he suddenly lose the ability to get open in that time?



I think the passing numbers will always be iffy as long as the QB position remains a question mark.


The way I look at it, they have to identify who their QB is going forward into the future and then add weapons and build an offense around their skillset. Figure out what that guy's strengths are and then add the pieces that best fit with what he likes to do.

Yep, and look at Wilson. His WRs were Tate, Baldwin, Kearse, etc

You dont need great WRs

Unrookie lol

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Until there is some quality play at QB it wont matter much who the WRs are. Larry Fitzgerald looked absolutely washed up, like his career was ending when the Cardinals had a revolving door at QB. Last season at 31 he had one of the best years of his career with Carson Palmer starting.




Generally speaking its the QB that makes the WR and not the other way around. When Big Ben went down in Pittsburgh and Vick and Landry Jones stepped in, Antonio Brown's number suffered significantly. Did he suddenly lose the ability to get open in that time?



I think the passing numbers will always be iffy as long as the QB position remains a question mark.


The way I look at it, they have to identify who their QB is going forward into the future and then add weapons and build an offense around their skillset. Figure out what that guy's strengths are and then add the pieces that best fit with what he likes to do.

Yep, and look at Wilson. His WRs were Tate, Baldwin, Kearse, etc

You dont need great WRs

tate and baldwin are actually pretty good though. Both are looking at 1000 yd seasons

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Until there is some quality play at QB it wont matter much who the WRs are. Larry Fitzgerald looked absolutely washed up, like his career was ending when the Cardinals had a revolving door at QB. Last season at 31 he had one of the best years of his career with Carson Palmer starting.




Generally speaking its the QB that makes the WR and not the other way around. When Big Ben went down in Pittsburgh and Vick and Landry Jones stepped in, Antonio Brown's number suffered significantly. Did he suddenly lose the ability to get open in that time?



I think the passing numbers will always be iffy as long as the QB position remains a question mark.


The way I look at it, they have to identify who their QB is going forward into the future and then add weapons and build an offense around their skillset. Figure out what that guy's strengths are and then add the pieces that best fit with what he likes to do.

Yep, and look at Wilson. His WRs were Tate, Baldwin, Kearse, etc

You dont need great WRs

tate and baldwin are actually pretty good though. Both are looking at 1000 yd seasons

I always used to laugh when baldwin would get pissed off for not being look at as a good/great WR in the NFL. Hard work pays off. He's really good now.

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Until there is some quality play at QB it wont matter much who the WRs are. Larry Fitzgerald looked absolutely washed up, like his career was ending when the Cardinals had a revolving door at QB. Last season at 31 he had one of the best years of his career with Carson Palmer starting.



Generally speaking its the QB that makes the WR and not the other way around. When Big Ben went down in Pittsburgh and Vick and Landry Jones stepped in, Antonio Brown's number suffered significantly. Did he suddenly lose the ability to get open in that time?



I think the passing numbers will always be iffy as long as the QB position remains a question mark.


The way I look at it, they have to identify who their QB is going forward into the future and then add weapons and build an offense around their skillset. Figure out what that guy's strengths are and then add the pieces that best fit with what he likes to do.

Yep, and look at Wilson. His WRs were Tate, Baldwin, Kearse, etc

You dont need great WRs

tate and baldwin are actually pretty good though. Both are looking at 1000 yd seasons

^^^.. correct. Tate is very good when Baldwin was #3 or 4th then Tate was release or trade because Tate was bang to wilson' s ex wife. Then Baldwin was improve and development time. He became #1 WR. Wilson is work hard for QB and smart to play by QB. Wilson is very good communication with WRS.. Wilson is very smartest player..

buzz is right, we need to upgrade our WR corps with someone who can make an impact. Maybe trade for someone like victor cruz, marquise lee, etc

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Yep, and look at Wilson. His WRs were Tate, Baldwin, Kearse, etc

You dont need great WRs

Teams with stable coaching, coherent offensive philosophies and high quality QB's don't seem to often struggle when it comes to finding WR's. Pittsburgh keeps finding quality receivers that they plug into their scheme, that their QB is able to use and they continually have success. Bruce Arians left Pittsburgh, went to Arizona and has set up a similar system with coaching stability, coherent offensive philosophy, quality QB play with Palmer and now they've got several guys like John Brown, JJ Nelson, Jaron Brown and others who look like playmakers, not to mention improved play from Larry Fitzgerald and Michael Floyd.


It helps to have both sides of the equation, the way Dallas has Romo and Dez Bryant, Green Bay with Rodgers and Jordy Nelson....etc, having a great QB and a great WR presents serious matchup issues but if I can only have one, give me the quarterback. A great WR can be shutdown or contained by a single player, a top-notch quarterback will attack all areas of the field which means that the defense has to keep track of everyone because the ball can go to any single receiver.


Russell Wilson has had a subpar receiving corps pretty much ever since entering the NFL but their receivers fit his areas of strength. You've got a guy like Baldwin who is a pretty good route runner that defensive backs tend to lose track of, they've given him a wide variety of deep threats such as Lockette and Kearse that he can just chuck it up to, on top of that they added Lockett as well so for a run heavy offense they have a lot of speed outside and if teams get sucked in to stop the run, Wilson is going to start bombing on them. He does a great job of spreading the ball around and does the best with what he has and you can't say that they haven't been successful.



As far as the 49ers go, I think they have an emerging threat in McDonald, a guy you can have go across the middle of the field, who is a difficult matchup because of his size and athleticism. You have Torrey Smith who is an explosive deep threat, a revceiver who is a tough matchup for anyone and he should be getting several deep looks each game. In Baltimore they continually tossed it up to him and many times even if he didn't catch, there would be a pass interference call which in the end run is just as good unless he's on your fantasy team. Each game you should have at least a few deep shots dialed up for Torrey to take advantage of. You have Jerome Simpson who is another vertical threat that teams have to account for. You have Patton who runs good routes and can be used in the slot or on the outside. You have Ellington with superb quickness and a guy that can be used a variety of ways, even taking the ball from out of the backfield. You have Celek at TE who is a jack of all trades, has decent hands and is a decent route runner as well.


Its not a great group but its a group that you can work with certainly. I think going forward they need to figure out who their QB is, whether its a guy already on the roster(doubtful) or someone that they draft, and then once they've done that, start adding weapons and pieces to help that guy play to his strengths.

Wideout woes a multi fix area . First problem is at qb . Our generals are intermediate throwing guys . No gun slingers in niner land . They are being asked to manage games and be mistake free , you get what u ask for . Secondly our routes are new and the learning curve for confidence in our pitch and catch needs time to develope . Thirdly and most importantly is our receivers don't have the swagger they should . Quiet and meek and lacking experience they simply get shut down and fail to get any decent separation . Bring in josh Gordon or Des Bryant and suddenly wide out targets appear . The only qb we have that can bring out swagger in our wide outs is kap , he's got the arm to gun sling with the best of em . Hope he's confident and cocky as he once was , then we might finally see chips offence as its meant to be played .

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Until there is some quality play at QB it wont matter much who the WRs are. Larry Fitzgerald looked absolutely washed up, like his career was ending when the Cardinals had a revolving door at QB. Last season at 31 he had one of the best years of his career with Carson Palmer starting.




Generally speaking its the QB that makes the WR and not the other way around. When Big Ben went down in Pittsburgh and Vick and Landry Jones stepped in, Antonio Brown's number suffered significantly. Did he suddenly lose the ability to get open in that time?



I think the passing numbers will always be iffy as long as the QB position remains a question mark.


The way I look at it, they have to identify who their QB is going forward into the future and then add weapons and build an offense around their skillset. Figure out what that guy's strengths are and then add the pieces that best fit with what he likes to do.

But we have gabberts.

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
tate and baldwin are actually pretty good though. Both are looking at 1000 yd seasons

right, because wilson is really good

Don't forget Cam and what was easily the worst WRs unit in the league leading all teams in points scored. So I concur with the others. The QB makes the WRs not the other way around.

As Phoenix said above, I wish they would throw it deep to Torrey several times a day. Makes so much sense.