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Originally posted by dsmith_49erz:
Our schedule is run heavy loaded and sprinkled in with some top notched QB's. We are going to get battle tested for 16 games not to mention having the 2nd toughest schedule as a non playoff team.

I think our coaches understand that, I just really hope the secondary begins to start playing aggressive. Otherwise in a base defense against Elite Qb's our defense is gonna get eaten up.
wonder if Dial will play any NT this year if Ian isn't healthy? Maybe they just increase PT for Purcell?
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
wonder if Dial will play any NT this year if Ian isn't healthy? Maybe they just increase PT for Purcell?

im guessing he will have to. Alot of zoners are high on Purcell but not me. Dont think he has shown enough to be a starter.

Sucks because Dial is a much better DE than NT.
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
DE- Arik Armstead
NT - Ian Williams
DE - DeForest Buckner

OLB - Ahmad Brooks
ILB - Navorro Bowman
ILB - Michael Wilhoite/Gerald Hodges
OLB - Aaron Lynch

Tell me how that is a big downgrade from say 2013-2014.....I only see a drop off in ILB replacing Willis, and somewhat with Aldon to Lynch (but not as much in run stopping as it would be pass rushing). Bowman appears to be back.

Justin Smith is an untouchable monster, but DeForest and Arik should be able to come close to Justice and RayMac.

Glenn Dorsey, Quinton Dial as backups.....Tank and Eli Harold as backups, I like.

Sub package wise, Tartt can discipline RBs.....Bethea too.

Scheme will count, but I trust O'Neil.
Let this be a return to 2009 when the streak of not allowing 100 yard rushers started!

Next year we get another OLB to get after QBs.

Just look at the LBs.
I doubt that Bowman is still the same Bowman
Very very unlikely Ahmad Brooks is the same Ahmad Brooks
Very unlikely Lynch will be able to match that year's Aldon Smith
No way Hodges or Wilhoite is the same as Willis

You will need every single LB positions to exceed expectations to compared to 13-14. Maybe one or two of them can exceed expectations, but highly unlikely all four can exceed expectations.

Heck, if everyone on the team can exceeds expectation we can go 16-0 and win the Superbowl.

I haven't even mention Justin Smith...
Week 3, we're gonna take it to Rawls and Wilson....

Buck and Double A will trap his escape lanes....Dorsey will keep the middle clean. Bow will chase down Wilson sideline to sideline like 2013. Brooks will kill Wilson on read option handoffs like 2013.

Watch.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Our front 7 is gonna get steam rolled. The only proven good players we have is lynch and bowman. Everyone else is hurt or unproven or not very good.

Aaron Lynch and NaVorro Bowman were unproven once. Unproven does not equal bad.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Our front 7 is gonna get steam rolled. The only proven good players we have is lynch and bowman. Everyone else is hurt or unproven or not very good.

Originally posted by pdizo916:
What is the predicted season total wins, 5? I will take the under.
Yo dog! Why don't you just become a sea chicken fan??!! You have got to be the worst loser to ever portend to be some type of fan!! Tell me. Did you know for a fact when the Niners were going to be good BEFORE they were? Uh, no you didn't. But, I'll bet that you watched that first year Harbaugh coached and once you realized there was a playoff in the future you wet your pants. And, you had no freakin' idea in Harbaughs last year they would wind up 8-8. But, I'll bet again you were running around your place of employment telling people that the Niners would win the SuperBowl that year. So, in essence, sit your a$$ down and stfu! If you ain't gonna be positive about the Niners, go troll some where else!
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
DE- Arik Armstead
NT - Ian Williams
DE - DeForest Buckner

OLB - Ahmad Brooks
ILB - Navorro Bowman
ILB - Michael Wilhoite/Gerald Hodges
OLB - Aaron Lynch

Tell me how that is a big downgrade from say 2013-2014.....I only see a drop off in ILB replacing Willis, and somewhat with Aldon to Lynch (but not as much in run stopping as it would be pass rushing). Bowman appears to be back.

Justin Smith is an untouchable monster, but DeForest and Arik should be able to come close to Justice and RayMac.

Glenn Dorsey, Quinton Dial as backups.....Tank and Eli Harold as backups, I like.

Sub package wise, Tartt can discipline RBs.....Bethea too.

Scheme will count, but I trust O'Neil.
Let this be a return to 2009 when the streak of not allowing 100 yard rushers started!

Next year we get another OLB to get after QBs.

I made a reference to this topic you started on my podcast: 49ers Rebel Talk. Check it out!
http://49ersrebelhq.com/2016/06/23/kap-speaks/
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/49ers-rebel-talk/id1073796243?mt=2&ls=1
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Source tells me Todd Gurley is contemplating early retirement. Can't see a future in the NFL after having to face this front 7 two times next year.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Source tells me Todd Gurley is contemplating early retirement. Can't see a future in the NFL after having to face this front 7 two times next year.

Probably peeing in his pants at the thought of Armstead in the backfield.
Originally posted by littleken:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
DE- Arik Armstead
NT - Ian Williams
DE - DeForest Buckner

OLB - Ahmad Brooks
ILB - Navorro Bowman
ILB - Michael Wilhoite/Gerald Hodges
OLB - Aaron Lynch

Tell me how that is a big downgrade from say 2013-2014.....I only see a drop off in ILB replacing Willis, and somewhat with Aldon to Lynch (but not as much in run stopping as it would be pass rushing). Bowman appears to be back.

Justin Smith is an untouchable monster, but DeForest and Arik should be able to come close to Justice and RayMac.

Glenn Dorsey, Quinton Dial as backups.....Tank and Eli Harold as backups, I like.

Sub package wise, Tartt can discipline RBs.....Bethea too.

Scheme will count, but I trust O'Neil.
Let this be a return to 2009 when the streak of not allowing 100 yard rushers started!

Next year we get another OLB to get after QBs.

Just look at the LBs.
I doubt that Bowman is still the same Bowman
Very very unlikely Ahmad Brooks is the same Ahmad Brooks
Very unlikely Lynch will be able to match that year's Aldon Smith
No way Hodges or Wilhoite is the same as Willis

You will need every single LB positions to exceed expectations to compared to 13-14. Maybe one or two of them can exceed expectations, but highly unlikely all four can exceed expectations.

Because they have much better depth now with lots of young guys
It's not just the 7 guys listed above, they also have these guys to rotate in:

Quinton Dial
Ronald Blair
Eli Harold
Tank Carradine


And we are also very deep at DB with a good nickel package
FS - Eric Reid
SS - Antone Bethea ..... Tartt
CB - Ward
CB - Brock
CB - Redmond ......... Robinson / Johnson / Acker / Reaser, etc
Originally posted by NinerTy:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Our front 7 is gonna get steam rolled. The only proven good players we have is lynch and bowman. Everyone else is hurt or unproven or not very good.

Originally posted by pdizo916:
What is the predicted season total wins, 5? I will take the under.
Yo dog! Why don't you just become a sea chicken fan??!! You have got to be the worst loser to ever portend to be some type of fan!! Tell me. Did you know for a fact when the Niners were going to be good BEFORE they were? Uh, no you didn't. But, I'll bet that you watched that first year Harbaugh coached and once you realized there was a playoff in the future you wet your pants. And, you had no freakin' idea in Harbaughs last year they would wind up 8-8. But, I'll bet again you were running around your place of employment telling people that the Niners would win the SuperBowl that year. So, in essence, sit your a$$ down and stfu! If you ain't gonna be positive about the Niners, go troll some where else!

Yo yo dog. You trynna act blacker than Frank Gore! Yo yo manz. I'll sitz meh ass dwn and stfu whunce the teammm startz wennin'
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Originally posted by Vito_Corleone:
Originally posted by littleken:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
DE- Arik Armstead
NT - Ian Williams
DE - DeForest Buckner

OLB - Ahmad Brooks
ILB - Navorro Bowman
ILB - Michael Wilhoite/Gerald Hodges
OLB - Aaron Lynch

Tell me how that is a big downgrade from say 2013-2014.....I only see a drop off in ILB replacing Willis, and somewhat with Aldon to Lynch (but not as much in run stopping as it would be pass rushing). Bowman appears to be back.

Justin Smith is an untouchable monster, but DeForest and Arik should be able to come close to Justice and RayMac.

Glenn Dorsey, Quinton Dial as backups.....Tank and Eli Harold as backups, I like.

Sub package wise, Tartt can discipline RBs.....Bethea too.

Scheme will count, but I trust O'Neil.
Let this be a return to 2009 when the streak of not allowing 100 yard rushers started!

Next year we get another OLB to get after QBs.

Just look at the LBs.
I doubt that Bowman is still the same Bowman
Very very unlikely Ahmad Brooks is the same Ahmad Brooks
Very unlikely Lynch will be able to match that year's Aldon Smith
No way Hodges or Wilhoite is the same as Willis

You will need every single LB positions to exceed expectations to compared to 13-14. Maybe one or two of them can exceed expectations, but highly unlikely all four can exceed expectations.

Because they have much better depth now with lots of young guys
It's not just the 7 guys listed above, they also have these guys to rotate in:

Quinton Dial
Ronald Blair
Eli Harold
Tank Carradine


And we are also very deep at DB with a good nickel package
FS - Eric Reid
SS - Antone Bethea ..... Tartt
CB - Ward
CB - Brock
CB - Redmond ......... Robinson / Johnson / Acker / Reaser, etc

We have much better depth than years past.
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Originally posted by pdizo916:
What is the predicted season total wins, 5? I will take the under.

don't bet more than $10, I don't wish for fellow Zoners / 49ers fans to lose money
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
Ian Williams hurt again

And both DEs are unproven.
I strongly agree, also Lynch isn't a solid run stopper
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