So who is going to be our starting Quar...jk... Tight End?

Originally posted by Need4Speed:

Originally posted by thl408:
I see a lot of seam routes from the TE in Chip's offense, or maybe it's just because Ertz is a good downfield target that Chip incorporated that into his offense. Either way, I think Vance's speed can be an asset. Just those damn hands of his holding him back.

Here's a nice Cover3 buster - Scissors concept, run with double TEs. Scissors looks to horizontally stretch the deep 1/3 defender.


The read is on the orange deep 1/3 defender. When he follows the Corner route, the correct target is to the Post.

Whats most interesting to me is it seems at least 3 people were wide open on this play. I can remember lots of plays last year where it seemed the defense new what we were going to call presnap.

Originally posted by TheRambler:
Bruce Miller is our TE

Originally posted by thl408:

I see a lot of seam routes from the TE in Chip's offense, or maybe it's just because Ertz is a good downfield target that Chip incorporated that into his offense. Either way, I think Vance's speed can be an asset. Just those damn hands of his holding him back.

Here's a nice Cover3 buster - Scissors concept, run with double TEs. Scissors looks to horizontally stretch the deep 1/3 defender.


The read is on the orange deep 1/3 defender. When he follows the Corner route, the correct target is to the Post.

Originally posted by Need4Speed:
I never liked Vance as a TE. Everyone was nuts about him when he was drafted and I had seen his film and he caught balls awkwardly that were on target but made some great catches on bad passes. He just is not a natural pass catcher. Could that change well kind of. VD wasn't a great hands catcher by any means but it improved. But no one ever considered him as having great hands. He did best when catching with his chest or the long ball.


Anyway I've always been surprised at celek but he seems injured more than healthy.

I honestly don't know. It will be interesting. We definately don't have anyone of Errtz ability on the roster.

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by Need4Speed:
I never liked Vance as a TE. Everyone was nuts about him when he was drafted and I had seen his film and he caught balls awkwardly that were on target but made some great catches on bad passes. He just is not a natural pass catcher. Could that change well kind of. VD wasn't a great hands catcher by any means but it improved. But no one ever considered him as having great hands. He did best when catching with his chest or the long ball.


Anyway I've always been surprised at celek but he seems injured more than healthy.

I honestly don't know. It will be interesting. We definately don't have anyone of Errtz ability on the roster.

Vance is a very good blocking TE though. Other than Miller, he is probably the best blocking TE we have. He will be important to our run game

Originally posted by cools:

Celek has the best hands, and is a solid blocker

I like Mac, Miller and Bell, Not sure we end up keeping 4 though

Love Carjuste, I have him making the 53, but pretty sure Niners have him listed as a WR

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Celek is probably the favorite. He just signed a nice extension, and is the most well-rounded TE we have.

I do expect to see Kelly use some 2 TE sets. Celek as the more traditional in-line TE, and then another TE flexed out like a big slot WR. I'd like to see a competition for that flex TE role between McDonald, Bell, Anderson, and Cajuste.

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Vance is a very good blocking TE though. Other than Miller, he is probably the best blocking TE we have. He will be important to our run game

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Vance is a very good blocking TE though. Other than Miller, he is probably the best blocking TE we have. He will be important to our run game

Because Chip likes to use 11 personnel (1rb/1te/3wr), the inline TE's blocking is very important since there's no fullback. Good thing Celek and Vance are good blockers. This is why I don't see Bell in the running for the top spot unless he significantly improves this aspect of his game, but no reason to think he can't.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Celek is probably the favorite. He just signed a nice extension, and is the most well-rounded TE we have.

I do expect to see Kelly use some 2 TE sets. Celek as the more traditional in-line TE, and then another TE flexed out like a big slot WR. I'd like to see a competition for that flex TE role between McDonald, Bell, Anderson, and Cajuste.

Barring injury, I think Celek, Bell, and Miller are all locks. As noted, Celek with the extension. And as I mentioned in another post, Miller's versatility and fantastic STs ability keep him here. I sincerely doubt Baalke cuts Bell after matching Celek's production in yards, but with a higher YPC average, as a rookie (who was only a year removed from being a QB).

Would not be surprised if we traded McDonald. Busta Anderson, if successful, could cause a ripple effect.