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DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts, and back!

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Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
$4M and a 4th for a DT upgrade, a locker room leader, and a guy who wanted to be here, and people are whinging? FortyWhiners

Makes no sense, I have still been in celebration mode

If we had him and Greenlaw in the SB 2023, we win.
Originally posted by bassmanr:
If we had him and Greenlaw in the SB 2023, we win.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I have access, not Sunday ticket, to watch out of the area games and rewatch any games in full.

a lot of people were hurt when we traded him, so I kinda kept tabs on him to see how he was doing.

Don't kill me on this lol.. It's not just some blind posts here.. I don't put myself out there like this but it's what I see

Fair enough , was generally curious on what you were seeing .

I'd consider another perspective when evaluating him this year in Indianpolis:
--- 32 years old
--- plays a high volume of snaps (4th among interior DL),
--- gets double-teamed 76% of the time (similar to Odighizuwa)...
--- and yet still has decent run-stopping grades, and 4 sacks, while our team leader is 3.5 in Keion White.

I've seen good film of him this year, and I don't doubt that there's probably film that isn't so great. But I'd argue that being an older player having to play so many snaps on a weaker surrounding cast is going to cause a dip in your efficacy.

I believe he can have a huge impact with a stronger supporting cast + a lower snap count. He'll get to rotate with Odighizuwa and Halton (who is becoming a very fine player). Those three will be fresh. Opposing offensive lines will double-team him or Odighizuwa. Buckner, Odighizuwa, and Halton can win a lot of 1 on 1's.

Hopefully Nick Bosa has had enough time to heal up for the long stretch. Romello Height and Keion White are playing well... and then maybe if we can get another pass-rusher via trade, there's a lot to be optimistic about with adding Buckner to this defensive line.
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
$4M and a 4th for a DT upgrade, a locker room leader, and a guy who wanted to be here, and people are whinging? FortyWhiners

Makes no sense, I have still been in celebration mode

If we had him and Greenlaw in the SB 2023, we win.

Should've still won comfortably even without Greenlaw, weak excuse.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I'm not too sure about that, but Del's posted alot of tape of how Buck is greater than what the stats say....

Didnt exactly pick the right tape for that here though

I mean it does, shows him taking the double team and the LB should fill that hole 1v1 with the RB for a minimum gain, but it would be at his fault for that since the LB decides to go put in a bet for the game.

disruption is his love language
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:

disruption is his love language

Halton AND Buck in the top 6?
Originally posted by Cosmo:
Halton AND Buck in the top 6?

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Originally posted by father49er:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
$4M and a 4th for a DT upgrade, a locker room leader, and a guy who wanted to be here, and people are whinging? FortyWhiners

Makes no sense, I have still been in celebration mode

Me too. YouTubers whoring for clicks want to build euphoria over more trades.

Yup, same. He played with a guy named Grover Stewart on the DLine. Not exactly a Bosa or a Halton, in my opinion. Buckner - with Raheem's stunts and blitz packages - will be feasting here, or let others feast.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I'm not too sure about that, but Del's posted alot of tape of how Buck is greater than what the stats say....

Didnt exactly pick the right tape for that here though

I mean it does, shows him taking the double team and the LB should fill that hole 1v1 with the RB for a minimum gain, but it would be at his fault for that since the LB decides to go put in a bet for the game.
lol I noticed that. Buck was getting double teamed. Other players should feast if that's the case. Can't wait.
Biggest hype I've seen Charles Haley in the late 90s vs Packers
Buckner and Halton could rule the world. Especially if Bosa comes back and healthy. With Mykel Williams setting the edge. That's an incredible line. With some good pieces in the rotation too for guys who have been playing well.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Fair enough , was generally curious on what you were seeing .

Odd sense of curiousity.
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Cosmo:
Halton AND Buck in the top 6?


Very nice
After digesting this move & seeing discussions here and elsewhere online about the Buckner trade I have a few observations:
- This team is now pretty deep at DT. Buckner, Osa, Halton are all high level starters. Thompson Jr is good rotational player. White plays inside a lot, Mykell sometimes. CJ West is coming back healthy soon. Players will be fresh inside & that's key coming down the stretch.
- Buckner for a 4th round pick. Only $4M or so in remaining salary & no long term financial commitment is a steal.
- Bears paid substantially more for a player who's really not that much better.
- Any trade that makes the team objectively better in a season like this is a great thing. The fans who are bickering over it (esp with 8 more days until the deadline) is ridiculous.
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