Which is the STRONGEST position group on the Niners? | Page 4

theninermaniac · 2016-04-22T21:00:25-07:00

Im struggling to identify what the strength of this team's roster is, and was hoping the WZ could help point it out. I hate to be Negative Nancy, but its seriously depressing to look at the Niners current roster right now. I have no idea what this team is anymore. However, I am excited to see what style of play Chip Kelly brings to the team, and how he may be able to inject life into this organization. Can anyone point out where the strength and core of this roster is? Is it just obliterated from top to bottom, or am I just being negative? For reference, courtesy of http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/SF OFFENSE LWR 11 Patton, Quinton 13/4 10 Ellington, Bruce 14/4 6 Anderson, Dres CF15 00 Rogers, Eric SF16 15 Smelter, DeAndre 15/4 RWR 82 Smith, Torrey U/Bal 18 White, DeAndrew CF15 14 SIMPSON, JEROME SF15 19 Campbell, DiAndre SF15 LT 74 STALEY, JOE 07/1 00 Kelly, Colin SF16 LG 62 Silberman, Ian 15/6 60 Thomas, Brandon 14/3 C 67 Kilgore, Daniel 11/5 66 Martin, Marcus 14/3 RG 61 Tiller, Andrew SF14 00 Beadles, Zane CC/Jax 69 Devey, Jordan T/NE RT 77 Brown, Trent 15/7 71 PEARS, ERIK U/Buf TE 89 McDonald, Vance 13/2 88 Celek, Garrett CF12 84 Bell, Blake 15/4 48 Anderson, Rory 15/7 87 Hamm, Je'Ron W/Was QB 2 Gabbert, Blaine T/Jax 7 Kaepernick, Colin 11/2 00 Lewis, Thaddeus U/Phi 13 Thompson, Dylan CF15 FB 49 Miller, Bruce 11/7 RB 28 Hyde, Carlos 14/2 20 Davis, Mike 15/4 32 Harris, DuJuan P/Bal 24 Draughn, Shaun SF15 38 Hayne, Jarryd SF15 RB 40 Gaskins, Kendall SF14 DEFENSE LDT 90 DORSEY, GLENN U/KC 63 Jerod-Eddie, Tony CF12 69 Armstead, Arik 15/1 NT 93 Williams, Ian CF11 64 Purcell, Mike CF13 68 Ramsey, Kaleb 14/7 RDT 92 Dial, Quinton 13/5 95 Carradine, Tank 13/2 65 Smith, Garrison SF14 LOLB 55 BROOKS, AHMAD W/Cin 96 Lemonier, Corey 13/3 RILB 53 Bowman, NaVorro 10/3 56 Skov, Shayne CF14 51 BISHOP, DESMOND SF14 LILB 51 Hodges, Gerald T/Min 57 Wilhoite, Michael CF11 50 Bellore, Nick U/NYJ ROLB 59 Lynch, Aaron 14/5 58 Harold, Eli 15/3 54 Armstrong, Ray Ray W/Oak 45 Rush, Marcus CF15 LCB 26 Brock, Tramaine CF10 36 Johnson, Dontae 14/4 43 Davis, Chris SF15 SS 41 BETHEA, ANTOINE U/Ind 29 Tartt, Jaquiski 15/2 FS 35 Reid, Eric 13/1 25 Ward, Jimmie 14/1 31 McCray, LJ CF14 RCB 20 Acker, Kenneth 14/6 27 Reaser, Keith 14/5 47 Cromartie, Marcus SF14

Apr 25, 2016 at 6:51 AM

#46

PacTiger
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by PacTiger:
Some of you guys are in position denial. How can we rate the DL and LBs as good when we get gashed on the ground and can't get to the QB to disrupt pass plays? We haven't come close to replacing Aldon and Justin in any way on this defense.

You can't say that yet. Justin took years to develop and didn't fully reach his full potential until he came here under the 3-4 and under Tomsula. For all we know AA is in that same timetable.

Aldon. More HOF talent on the field. Very few teams have replaced a talent like that. Maybe it's Harold or Carradine or a draft pick. Fingers crossed on this one!

We don't have a marquee pass rusher on this team. Hopefully AA develops into something really good against the run and pass. Hopefully Ian Williams gets healthy. Outside of those two our DEs are easily replaceable. Lynch is a placeholder until somebody better comes along. Brooks maybe has two more years in him. Our nickle front four isn't good. There is a gap between getting pressure and sacks which means either there is an inherent issue with how pressure is measured or it's is easily avoided for some reason by our opponents.

Honestly, if Tank becomes a terror of an OLB and we draft Sosa or Lawson, do you think lynch keeps getting starter reps? Our front seven is bad right now and our solution will eventually be drafted.

Apr 25, 2016 at 6:56 AM

#47

RonMexico
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Originally posted by MikeD:
We got Bowman and Lynch and LBs are at 6% right now

cause lynch doesnt get sacks :D

Apr 25, 2016 at 6:59 AM

#48

PacTiger
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Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by MikeD:
We got Bowman and Lynch and LBs are at 6% right now

cause lynch doesnt get sacks :D

seriously, the term pressure is overused and over valued. If pressure was counted only if the pressure resulted in an incomplete pass or a no gain play then it would be meaningful.

Apr 26, 2016 at 9:04 AM

#49

KyleShanahan
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FB.. but since Chip doesnt use FBs.

So definitely Safeties. Reid, Tartt, Bethea and Ward are all starters on most teams in the NFL.

Apr 26, 2016 at 2:01 PM

#50

49AllTheTime
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no option for the Haters ?

Apr 26, 2016 at 2:04 PM

#51

SundayTicket
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I would love to see who picked quarterback so we can see who the real homers are. And that goes for whoever was voting for either Gabbert or kap lol

Apr 26, 2016 at 5:16 PM

#52

TheWooLick
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
no option for the Haters ?

Maybe if the poll included None of the Above or P.

Apr 26, 2016 at 5:36 PM

#53

hondakillerzx
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MLB has our only proven stud so im saying that, not because our linebackers are awesome, just because bowman is awesome lol

May 2, 2016 at 10:40 AM

#54

21SandersMoss84
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DL and S

May 2, 2016 at 10:59 AM

#55

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Safety

Got 2 former pro-bowlers in Bethea and Reid, and 2 good young players in Ward and Tartt.

Agreed. DL and RB is good, but not necessarily completely proven yet.

May 2, 2016 at 10:59 AM

#56

JohnMatrix
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yeah D-line and safety for sure. Potentially corner depending on how these prospects develop.

May 3, 2016 at 5:01 AM

#57

paulk205
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Accounting.

We're also pretty awesome in leaking.

May 3, 2016 at 5:29 AM

#58

KeepRabbitsOut
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Our strongest position is Running Back Coach. Tom Rathman has weathered a tsunami of coaching reappointments. All class.

May 3, 2016 at 6:12 AM

#59

joaosoarrs99
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DL, RB and S are our stronger positions. At DL we have what could be one of the best lines in the league. While in RB we have Hyde who, when healthy, is a beast, a great coach(Tom Ratham) and solid backups. Our safety crew is pretty awesome too because we have 4 great safeties. I choose DL because there wasn't a S option, just S/CB, and Hyde is injury prone.

May 3, 2016 at 8:37 AM

#60

JohnMatrix
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Originally posted by PacTiger:
We don't have a marquee pass rusher on this team. Hopefully AA develops into something really good against the run and pass. Hopefully Ian Williams gets healthy. Outside of those two our DEs are easily replaceable. Lynch is a placeholder until somebody better comes along. Brooks maybe has two more years in him. Our nickle front four isn't good. There is a gap between getting pressure and sacks which means either there is an inherent issue with how pressure is measured or it's is easily avoided for some reason by our opponents.

Honestly, if Tank becomes a terror of an OLB and we draft Sosa or Lawson, do you think lynch keeps getting starter reps? Our front seven is bad right now and our solution will eventually be drafted.

Your assessment of Lynch is laughable. He's one of the best young outside linebackers in the league.