Sign Anquan Boldin to a 2yr/$8-$10mil contract to play Tight End ala Delanie Walker?

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
We aren't going to sign many older guys. Chip wants to see what he has this year with the younger guys. So the more older guys we sign to start takes away playing time from the younger guys to be evaluated. We are pretty much going to tank 2016 to evaluate needs for 2017

i do not agree with that at all! our young kids last year will be better this year esp with better coaching, you never know . maybe we will get some good contributions from this years draft class. no i think with new coaches. better coaches more and better energy, i think tanking the upcoming season is the last thing from the players minds and at least my mind you are of course. right , about not signing any old vets

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I think Boldin is done. Got to get younger.

and despite what some say.... going younger does not mean we are cheap skates. one thing does not always have to lead to another in my opinion.. I know you never said that mayo,your post just reminded me of that

I agree, younger doesn't mean cheaper. But, we do need to get some new blood in here.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

We aren't going to sign many older guys. Chip wants to see what he has this year with the younger guys. So the more older guys we sign to start takes away playing time from the younger guys to be evaluated. We are pretty much going to tank 2016 to evaluate needs for 2017

i do not agree with that at all! our young kids last year will be better this year esp with better coaching, you never know . maybe we will get some good contributions from this years draft class. no i think with new coaches. better coaches more and better energy, i think tanking the upcoming season is the last thing from the players minds and at least my mind you are of course. right , about not signing any old vets

Sorry I useD the wrong wording. We aren't tanking but I don't think the FO is expecting much. It's going to be a growing season. This year is strictly to see the talent we currently have. If we end up doing really well, it'D be a pleasant surprise

I wish Trent would draft a legit WR.

2010 (6th rnd)
Kyle Williams 5-10 185

2011 (6th rnd)
Ronald Johnson 5-11 199

2012 (1st rnd)
AJ Jenkins 6-0 192

2013 (4th rnd)
Quinton Patton 6-0 204

2014 (4th rnd)
Bruce Ellington 5-9 197

2015 (4th rnd)
DeAndre Smelter 6-2 226

What do all those guys have in common? Well except for Smelter they are smallish but they all did some kick returning in college. I think Trent is hung up needing a WR to also be a KR.

Can we draft a legit 6-4 230 lb WR who's not a good KR but is a good WR?

lol

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I think Boldin is done. Got to get younger.

and despite what some say.... going younger does not mean we are cheap skates. one thing does not always have to lead to another in my opinion.. I know you never said that mayo,your post just reminded me of that

I agree, younger doesn't mean cheaper. But, we do need to get some new blood in here.

i agree,, we depended on some good vets for years but you have to infuse youth into the mix. we did a bit of that last year. with terrible coaches,, should be a better situation this year. we still got some quality quality vets like staley, bethea . bowman, reid.. some like brooks are kind of question marks to me for the upcoming season

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Boldin to TE

Kap to WR

Bowman to RB

Hyde to LB

Anthony Davis to NT

Why hasn't anybody thought of this before?

this is a joke, right? everybody knows that Bowman would make a great WR, not RB.

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Boldin to TE

Kap to WR

Bowman to RB

Hyde to LB

Anthony Davis to NT

Why hasn't anybody thought of this before?

this is a joke, right? everybody knows that Bowman would make a great WR, not RB.

In Madden a couple years ago I just had VD and Vance as TE's. When I used the jumbo package it would toss Patrick Willis in as the 3rd TE. Dude was a beast.

Originally posted by MrMrMEanerMister:

Originally posted by SoCold:
DW was a WR at a Div II college. I watched him play in person. He was clearly the best player on the field by a lot.

This and Boldin's got that same attitude and work ethic. Same height and better hands. Some run blocking, is smart, runs a quality route just lacks speed at this point but lucky for him it's not an issue at TE. Look at guys that have hands, run routes and serve as possession receivers at Te even in old age like Witten, Gates, etc..

There's 2 big problems for me.
1. Boldin's never had to block from the inside from a 3 point stance or downblock on a regular basis against NFL DE's. His type of strength for this blocking is going to be much different than Walker's. Walker, I guarantee, has spent a lot of time on strength in his legs and hips. Whereas Boldin, as strong as he is, has focused more on agility and burst his whole career. You'd be asking a guy to change his entire workout regimen and style in the twilight of his career. This isn't as easy of a move as it seems. It's not like Rod Woodson moving to safety at the end of his career. While some skills transfer, there's a lot that don't.

2. Arm length: Boldin, as strong as he is, doesn't have a large catch radius. He has shorter arms. If you look at he and Walker compared, Walker's got longer arms. You want TE's with a big wingspan. It gives the QB a larger catch radius to throw to in the zones. Years ago, Brian Billick was doing a special for the NFL network talking about the importance of catch radius for TE's. He was working with a little known TE, that year, at the combine named Rob Gronkowski and was showing how Gronk had a huge wingspan and how desirable that is from the TE position. Also, there are times when TE's are required to block for a max protect. You don't want to stick a short armed buy on an NFL DE/OLB who's rushing the passer. They'll get eaten alive. It's why a lot of great T's in college don't always translate to the NFL, arm length.

The best tight-ends are strong, and can take a good hit - Bavarro, Shockey, Gronkowski, Shannon Sharpe, Brent Jones, Vernon Davis (WAY early in his career, not now). Boldin is a little too old to be taking hard hits like that, although more fitted for it than most receivers.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by MrMrMEanerMister:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Boldin to TE

Kap to WR

Bowman to RB

Hyde to LB

Anthony Davis to NT

Why hasn't anybody thought of this before?

Seriously?

Not even remotely close. Boldin to TE is a smart and realistic option. You connect the current skill set to what best suits the player like all great coaches.

Hyde to LB, Davis to NT... Miller to FB..oh wait.

Please at least try to make it remotely possible so that your attempts at humor are funny.

How about you name 3 players in the past 10 years that have switched skill positions on offense. Go ahead. Scour the Internet. I'll wait.

3 hours and no response. How about name 1 player in the last 20 years. That should be easier.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by MrMrMEanerMister:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Boldin to TE

Kap to WR

Bowman to RB

Hyde to LB

Anthony Davis to NT

Why hasn't anybody thought of this before?

Seriously?

Not even remotely close. Boldin to TE is a smart and realistic option. You connect the current skill set to what best suits the player like all great coaches.

Hyde to LB, Davis to NT... Miller to FB..oh wait.

Please at least try to make it remotely possible so that your attempts at humor are funny.

How about you name 3 players in the past 10 years that have switched skill positions on offense. Go ahead. Scour the Internet. I'll wait.

3 hours and no response. How about name 1 player in the last 20 years. That should be easier.

I'll help him out, off the top of my head I can recall Todd Christensen who started his career as a RB and switched to TE, very successful move for him and the Raiders.

I also remember Brad Smith who went from QB to WR for the Jets.

It's very uncommon though, most players change postions before they come to the NFL, but it's not impossible.

I voted yes because I said this same thing a few months ago, as to keep Bolden and still keep the younger WR's on the roster. He can fill the hybrid role, like Walker who EAS a jumbo sized WR in Div2 football when we drafted him. I also think a guy like Hayne can put on a lil weight and back up Miller at FB(if he is to stay on the roster)..

Originally posted by 4everFaithful:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by MrMrMEanerMister:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Boldin to TE

Kap to WR

Bowman to RB

Hyde to LB

Anthony Davis to NT

Why hasn't anybody thought of this before?

Seriously?

Not even remotely close. Boldin to TE is a smart and realistic option. You connect the current skill set to what best suits the player like all great coaches.

Hyde to LB, Davis to NT... Miller to FB..oh wait.

Please at least try to make it remotely possible so that your attempts at humor are funny.

How about you name 3 players in the past 10 years that have switched skill positions on offense. Go ahead. Scour the Internet. I'll wait.

3 hours and no response. How about name 1 player in the last 20 years. That should be easier.

I'll help him out, off the top of my head I can recall Todd Christensen who started his career as a RB and switched to TE, very successful move for him and the Raiders.

I also remember Brad Smith who went from QB to WR for the Jets.

It's very uncommon though, most players change postions before they come to the NFL, but it's not impossible.

He even posted one, Delanie Walker was/Started out as a WR, then converted to a TE

I think Stoney means a player that started his career in the NFL at one offensive skill position, actually playing that position in the NFL, and then changing positions and continued to play in the NFL

A ton of college players play at one position in college then change to a different position in the NFL

Micheal Robinson comes to mind

Originally posted by 4everFaithful:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by MrMrMEanerMister:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Boldin to TE

Kap to WR

Bowman to RB

Hyde to LB

Anthony Davis to NT

Why hasn't anybody thought of this before?

Seriously?

Not even remotely close. Boldin to TE is a smart and realistic option. You connect the current skill set to what best suits the player like all great coaches.

Hyde to LB, Davis to NT... Miller to FB..oh wait.

Please at least try to make it remotely possible so that your attempts at humor are funny.

How about you name 3 players in the past 10 years that have switched skill positions on offense. Go ahead. Scour the Internet. I'll wait.

3 hours and no response. How about name 1 player in the last 20 years. That should be easier.

I'll help him out, off the top of my head I can recall Todd Christensen who started his career as a RB and switched to TE, very successful move for him and the Raiders.

I also remember Brad Smith who went from QB to WR for the Jets.

It's very uncommon though, most players change postions before they come to the NFL, but it's not impossible.

The point was for him to name them since he was so offended by people questioning his idea.


But since you chimed in, Christiansen last played in the NFL 28 years ago and smith was drafted as a slash player and was never a difference maker at any position he played.