Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
That is the penalty we pay for having had Joe for x number of yrs and then Steve. 5 SB trophies, with two all pro QBs. That really exceeds luck of the draw. Now we are watching the odds catch up with us, with very mediocre QB play. Incidentally, the NFCC game wtih Giants was lost on bad coaching. Yes KW muffed not just one but two returns. However, across the way, on the Giants sidelines, you could see Coughlin screaming at his PRs to get the hell away from the ball, in the wind, rain, and mud. A driving rain with swirling winds made any punt incredibly hard to field, and coughlin told his guys NOT to return any punt. Fair catch them all. Otherwise, get out of the way and let the ball go where it wants. Yet on our side of the field, there is harbaw, never said squat about either fair catching or getting out of the way of a windy, wet mud ball. The fact harbaw never said anything nor warned KW, is how and why we lost that game. We had the giants back on their heels and then KW, coachless, makes two bad decisions. That is exactly how we lost that game. Sure we had not much O, but we had the game. Unfortunately captain clueless didn't watch what coughlin had his PR doing...or rather NOT doing. And it cost us the NFC titel and thus the SB which we would have won going away.
We had the best D but lousy substandard coaching gave the game and thus the SB away. That was an awful feeling after the game that day. Years later it still hurts.
Now we need a reliable, consistent QB, who doesn't have to be able to throw the ball thru a brick wall...nor throw it 70 yards. Accuracy is way more important. A game manager would be just fine for me. We don't have to have the best qB in the league. Besides the best QB in the league, the MVP, just got beat by an aging , shouldn't be playing Qb. In truth he lost to the best D we have seen in a long time. LIke the old adage says, get to the playoffs with O, win the SB with D. And that is exactly what happened. In our case, sure i would like to have Cam Newton. But we can do fine if we get a good steady QB with good fundamentals. good football IQ, and who can read Ds, react quickly and change plays on the fly. That is what i want in our qB, not the super natural arm strength, not a work out horse. I want a guy like Joe montana, steve, Cam....who can study and learn all the above and then take that to the football field. Cam is a bad example because he is so strong. I want a throwback QB, who actually learns and knows the game. It also takes a coach who knows the game and isn't a flash in the pan like harbaw. Would he really have gotten the HC job here if he had not inherited Luck, and an all star cast as Stanford? Somehow, i don't think so. Then he comes here to a stacked team, chock full of picks from 10 yrs of picking 7th or better, and with that talent takes us to 3 NFCC gmes, loses a SB and 2 of the other NFCC games. Harbaw has no idea of the golden opportunity he squandered, nor did he have any idea of what O playcalling was all about. Nor game planning. QB Whisperer? LMAO. That is the biggest bad joke of the century. All show, no O. That was our HC. Krapt, what a waste.
I don't think we need a high round pick for a QB. I am much more interested in a bunch of (maybe 20 or so) UDFA QBs who are brought into camp, and let chip evaluate all of them. My guess is he would much rather do that than put all his eggs on the #7 pick and take one QB. Heck, no one here even knows exactly what kind of qb chip needs. But my bet is a smart guy, who can learn, study, be cool under fire, and follow chip's playcalls and game plan. I don't think that requires the #7 pick in the draft. If there were a Cam out there, sure, that is a different story. But there isn't . There are a bunch of guys who could possibly follow chip's advice and become good QBs.More than physical , we see the need for the mental QB as way more important. We've had the physical QB. That failed. Now we swing to more mental ones....at least that is my opinion. We'll see. At present the best thing we can do for our QB is a) to protect him, and b) to have a D who gets him good field position as well as puts points on the board. That's what we need at present. Not the "best " QB in the draft.
Well said, I think that Goff is the QB with the attributes of a Smart guy who can change plays on the fly,He`s the guy.Gabbert has some skills also,I believe the 9ers are not in as bad QB position as some think they are,as long as Kap moves on .your assessment of Harbaw is dead-on,tome He walked into a perfect situation for Him,Loaded team ready to go, and yet EVERYONE thinks Harbaw was such a great coach ,Harbaw with the team he had should have won aleast 2 SBs,and don`t get me to talking about the MISUSE of HOF Randy Moss,using Moss as a DECOY!.....terrible waste of talent, and Ted Ginn,yeah need I say more.