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Originally posted by NinerGM:
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Turay. Sleeper pick to make the 53. Watch out. A pass-rusher RIGHT NOW than Jackson at least according to mini-camp.

He's definitely making the 53. I would say he's in there as much as Samson
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Turay. Sleeper pick to make the 53. Watch out. A better pass-rusher RIGHT NOW than Jackson at least according to mini-camp.

You mean according to Grant Cohn's version of mini camp. I read that too. Meanwhile, back in the real world Bosa, Ekuban and Ryan have all gone out of there way to say how impressed they are with Jackson. I think I'll wait until the pads come on before handing out gold stars.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Right? 10 DL probably plus Willis coming back after his suspension. A good one is going to get cut.

Couldn't you just trade a dlineman for a position of need?
[ Edited by pdizo916 on Jun 11, 2022 at 6:30 PM ]
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Right? 10 DL probably plus Willis coming back after his suspension. A good one is going to get cut.

Couldn't you just trade a dlineman for a position of need?

Not OL. Kyle doesn't believe in stockpiling OL.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Couldn't you just trade a dlineman for a position of need?

I'm almost hoping we can stash some of this depth on IR. I was a big fan of Willis and Omenifus contributions during playoffs.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Turay. Sleeper pick to make the 53. Watch out. A better pass-rusher RIGHT NOW than Jackson at least according to mini-camp.

If Turay is healthy and stays healthy, he is def making the team and I can see him being our second best passer and getting 8–10 sacks, again if he can stay healthy. Koucerek will bring out his talent(s)

i really like this signing!
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It'll be interesting to see how Turay, Ebukam, Willis, and Hyder do in camp. I can't imagine we keep all of them. I'm assuming Jackson's a lock.

Jackson is definitely a lock! Koucerek loves Hyder so I think he is pretty safe. If Turay is healthy, I can't see him not making the 53. In fact, I can see him being our second best edge pass rusher and getting 8-10 sacks. Turay is a good player with a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, Koucerek will coach him up to his talent level and the Turay signing will prove to be a huge bargain and a FA steal! I like Jordan Willis but it will be nearly impossible for him to make the team will all the talented DE's we now have. Another team will scoop him up quick of waivers or maybe we can get a 6th or 7th rd pick for him. Ekubam is a wildcard. He could be a starter or he may end up getting cut if he does not take a pay cut. He has some serious competition at DE this year and has a decent size cap number.
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Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It'll be interesting to see how Turay, Ebukam, Willis, and Hyder do in camp. I can't imagine we keep all of them. I'm assuming Jackson's a lock.

Jackson is definitely a lock! Koucerek loves Hyder so I think he is pretty safe. If Turay is healthy, I can't see him not making the 53. In fact, I can see him being our second best edge pass rusher and getting 8-10 sacks. Turay is a good player with a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, Koucerek will coach him up to his talent level and the Turay signing will prove to be a huge bargain and a FA steal! I like Jordan Willis but it will be nearly impossible for him to make the team will all the talented DE's we now have. Another team will scoop him up quick of waivers or maybe we can get a 6th or 7th rd pick for him. Ekubam is a wildcard. He could be a starter or he may end up getting cut if he does not take a pay cut. He has some serious competition at DE this year and has a decent size cap number.

I like Turay as well and think he will be a part of the DE rotation. I think the last DE roster spot will be a fight between Willis and Omenihu.
My pre-camp prediction is that Bosa, Ebukam, Turay, Drake, Hyder, are in.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It'll be interesting to see how Turay, Ebukam, Willis, and Hyder do in camp. I can't imagine we keep all of them. I'm assuming Jackson's a lock.

Jackson is definitely a lock! Koucerek loves Hyder so I think he is pretty safe. If Turay is healthy, I can't see him not making the 53. In fact, I can see him being our second best edge pass rusher and getting 8-10 sacks. Turay is a good player with a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, Koucerek will coach him up to his talent level and the Turay signing will prove to be a huge bargain and a FA steal! I like Jordan Willis but it will be nearly impossible for him to make the team will all the talented DE's we now have. Another team will scoop him up quick of waivers or maybe we can get a 6th or 7th rd pick for him. Ekubam is a wildcard. He could be a starter or he may end up getting cut if he does not take a pay cut. He has some serious competition at DE this year and has a decent size cap number.

I like Turay as well and think he will be a part of the DE rotation. I think the last DE roster spot will be a fight between Willis and Omenihu.
My pre-camp prediction is that Bosa, Ebukam, Turay, Drake, Hyder, are in.

Hmmm I don't know if Hyder is a lock. I like him, don't get me wrong there. It's a crowded position.

Edit: actually looking at his guarantees it seems he's probably locked in.
[ Edited by Youngone on Jun 15, 2022 at 11:18 AM ]
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Originally posted by Youngone:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It'll be interesting to see how Turay, Ebukam, Willis, and Hyder do in camp. I can't imagine we keep all of them. I'm assuming Jackson's a lock.

Jackson is definitely a lock! Koucerek loves Hyder so I think he is pretty safe. If Turay is healthy, I can't see him not making the 53. In fact, I can see him being our second best edge pass rusher and getting 8-10 sacks. Turay is a good player with a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, Koucerek will coach him up to his talent level and the Turay signing will prove to be a huge bargain and a FA steal! I like Jordan Willis but it will be nearly impossible for him to make the team will all the talented DE's we now have. Another team will scoop him up quick of waivers or maybe we can get a 6th or 7th rd pick for him. Ekubam is a wildcard. He could be a starter or he may end up getting cut if he does not take a pay cut. He has some serious competition at DE this year and has a decent size cap number.

I like Turay as well and think he will be a part of the DE rotation. I think the last DE roster spot will be a fight between Willis and Omenihu.
My pre-camp prediction is that Bosa, Ebukam, Turay, Drake, Hyder, are in.

Hmmm I don't know if Hyder is a lock. I like him, don't get me wrong there. It's a crowded position.

If it's 2020 Hyder, I like his chances to make the 53, but yeah he still needs to win a spot because his contract suggests he isn't a lock. Willis won't have his PEDs anymore. Honestly, Turay isn't a lock either I just think he's a good talent that could benefit greatly from Kocurek. Log jam at the last couple DE spots. I think the only true locks are Bosa, Ebukam, Drake.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It'll be interesting to see how Turay, Ebukam, Willis, and Hyder do in camp. I can't imagine we keep all of them. I'm assuming Jackson's a lock.

Jackson is definitely a lock! Koucerek loves Hyder so I think he is pretty safe. If Turay is healthy, I can't see him not making the 53. In fact, I can see him being our second best edge pass rusher and getting 8-10 sacks. Turay is a good player with a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, Koucerek will coach him up to his talent level and the Turay signing will prove to be a huge bargain and a FA steal! I like Jordan Willis but it will be nearly impossible for him to make the team will all the talented DE's we now have. Another team will scoop him up quick of waivers or maybe we can get a 6th or 7th rd pick for him. Ekubam is a wildcard. He could be a starter or he may end up getting cut if he does not take a pay cut. He has some serious competition at DE this year and has a decent size cap number.

I like Turay as well and think he will be a part of the DE rotation. I think the last DE roster spot will be a fight between Willis and Omenihu.
My pre-camp prediction is that Bosa, Ebukam, Turay, Drake, Hyder, are in.

I think Omenihu's ability to rush from the interior gives him the edge. The beat writers were really high on him when he got traded here and felt the HOU coaching staff played him out of position at the edge.
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It'll be interesting to see how Turay, Ebukam, Willis, and Hyder do in camp. I can't imagine we keep all of them. I'm assuming Jackson's a lock.

Jackson is definitely a lock! Koucerek loves Hyder so I think he is pretty safe. If Turay is healthy, I can't see him not making the 53. In fact, I can see him being our second best edge pass rusher and getting 8-10 sacks. Turay is a good player with a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, Koucerek will coach him up to his talent level and the Turay signing will prove to be a huge bargain and a FA steal! I like Jordan Willis but it will be nearly impossible for him to make the team will all the talented DE's we now have. Another team will scoop him up quick of waivers or maybe we can get a 6th or 7th rd pick for him. Ekubam is a wildcard. He could be a starter or he may end up getting cut if he does not take a pay cut. He has some serious competition at DE this year and has a decent size cap number.

I like Turay as well and think he will be a part of the DE rotation. I think the last DE roster spot will be a fight between Willis and Omenihu.
My pre-camp prediction is that Bosa, Ebukam, Turay, Drake, Hyder, are in.

I think Omenihu's ability to rush from the interior gives him the edge. The beat writers were really high on him when he got traded here and felt the HOU coaching staff played him out of position at the edge.

Ah, so perhaps Omenihu is this season's Arden Key (average edge player that can be a mismatch as a pass rushing DT).
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Right? 10 DL probably plus Willis coming back after his suspension. A good one is going to get cut.

Couldn't you just trade a dlineman for a position of need?

Not OL. Kyle doesn't believe in stockpiling OL.
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Originally posted by Youngone:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It'll be interesting to see how Turay, Ebukam, Willis, and Hyder do in camp. I can't imagine we keep all of them. I'm assuming Jackson's a lock.

Jackson is definitely a lock! Koucerek loves Hyder so I think he is pretty safe. If Turay is healthy, I can't see him not making the 53. In fact, I can see him being our second best edge pass rusher and getting 8-10 sacks. Turay is a good player with a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, Koucerek will coach him up to his talent level and the Turay signing will prove to be a huge bargain and a FA steal! I like Jordan Willis but it will be nearly impossible for him to make the team will all the talented DE's we now have. Another team will scoop him up quick of waivers or maybe we can get a 6th or 7th rd pick for him. Ekubam is a wildcard. He could be a starter or he may end up getting cut if he does not take a pay cut. He has some serious competition at DE this year and has a decent size cap number.

I like Turay as well and think he will be a part of the DE rotation. I think the last DE roster spot will be a fight between Willis and Omenihu.
My pre-camp prediction is that Bosa, Ebukam, Turay, Drake, Hyder, are in.

Hmmm I don't know if Hyder is a lock. I like him, don't get me wrong there. It's a crowded position.

Edit: actually looking at his guarantees it seems he's probably locked in.

Does 750K dead money make him a lock? I actually don't know.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It'll be interesting to see how Turay, Ebukam, Willis, and Hyder do in camp. I can't imagine we keep all of them. I'm assuming Jackson's a lock.

Jackson is definitely a lock! Koucerek loves Hyder so I think he is pretty safe. If Turay is healthy, I can't see him not making the 53. In fact, I can see him being our second best edge pass rusher and getting 8-10 sacks. Turay is a good player with a lot of talent. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, Koucerek will coach him up to his talent level and the Turay signing will prove to be a huge bargain and a FA steal! I like Jordan Willis but it will be nearly impossible for him to make the team will all the talented DE's we now have. Another team will scoop him up quick of waivers or maybe we can get a 6th or 7th rd pick for him. Ekubam is a wildcard. He could be a starter or he may end up getting cut if he does not take a pay cut. He has some serious competition at DE this year and has a decent size cap number.

I like Turay as well and think he will be a part of the DE rotation. I think the last DE roster spot will be a fight between Willis and Omenihu.
My pre-camp prediction is that Bosa, Ebukam, Turay, Drake, Hyder, are in.

Hmmm I don't know if Hyder is a lock. I like him, don't get me wrong there. It's a crowded position.

Edit: actually looking at his guarantees it seems he's probably locked in.

Does 750K dead money make him a lock? I actually don't know.

I feel like that would be a lot considering total contract is 1.5 million but I dunno. Basically saves nothing by cutting him except a roster spot, which itself could be valuable.
[ Edited by Youngone on Jun 15, 2022 at 12:00 PM ]
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