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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - 2015 Week 11

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  • Kense
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Around here I would say no. Alex got the crappier treatment. The players performance is what matters. I don't hear anybody defending Devey over Tiller. If you suck you go, it's that simple.

After 6 years he got crap. Until year 6 it was excuse after excuse about revolving coaches, not getting a stable system blah blah blah.
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by Kense:
Originally posted by harryj:
dude you just said the reason kap is not getting as much support is because of his race and hes not a white qb

You said that I said he's playing bad because he's black. No he's getting trashed by alot of people because of that. There is no doubt about it. The leash is shorter for Black QB's league widea this has been proven. Ask any Black QB in the league.

No one said you said that he's playing bad because he's black. We're saying you're full of cowardly crap for claiming fans have turned on him because he is black. He has played poorly for the last two seasons, and he's been exceptionally poor at times this year. He's not getting better like a young QB should. He's getting worse. His replacement is reading defenses, getting the ball out more quickly and more accurately, and avoiding sacks much better than Kap was, and against the toughest defense we face in the most hostile environment. Fans who love the team as a whole more than their favorite players are able to see past their bias to recognize these things. Calling them racist for doing so is weak, cowardly, inciteful, and childish.
Kap is black??? WTF when did this happen?
Come one man, did you really think they had a chance? - Niners fan for life!
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
So we score 1 less point than our season avg and people come away encouraged. What a joke this team is. Get blown out again. Gabbert completes some passes on a soft defense that gives up 30!almost every game.

This organization needs an enema

Gabbert was the only positive

Seattle only gives up 19.9 a game, not sure where you get 30 from? Our offense was encouraging, our defense was just downright aweful... too many missed tackles, missed assignments, etc. Your not going to win a game when your defense gives up TDs on the first 3 drives.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Around here I would say no. Alex got the crappier treatment. The players performance is what matters. I don't hear anybody defending Devey over Tiller. If you suck you go, it's that simple.

This. Alex got hated on something truly epic, for years on end. Most people fawned over Kaepernick until it was clear that he simply wasn't developing the necessary skills to be a consistent quarterback in the NFL.
Originally posted by BodhiPaddlesOut:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Kense:
Originally posted by jreff22:
So you're hating on Gabbert because he's white.




Did I do that correctly?


That's the same reaction I make when people say the hate on Kap is due to his color.

I'm probably whiter than you and will easily attest to that fact that part of Kap's hate is due to his color.

Do you think Russell Wilson would be accepted in SF?
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Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
So we score 1 less point than our season avg and people come away encouraged. What a joke this team is. Get blown out again. Gabbert completes some passes on a soft defense that gives up 30!almost every game.

This organization needs an enema

Gabbert was the only positive

Seattle only gives up 19.9 a game, not sure where you get 30 from? Our offense was encouraging, our defense was just downright aweful... too many missed tackles, missed assignments, etc. Your not going to win a game when your defense gives up TDs on the first 3 drives.

If I'm gonna put the blame on someone, its gonna be Mangini and the D. This could have been a winnable game. It got outta hand in the 1st quarter alone.
Originally posted by Kense:
Typical , racism denial by making a joke about it , pretending racism doesn't exist and everything has to do with an imaginary card. Yeah there are no racist football fans. Racism doesn't exist and Kapernick is getting the same hate Alex Smith got, oh wait after year 7.

Not everybody who thinks Kap needs to go is racist either,..painting everyone with the same brush is ridiculous and a sad attempt to either incite or play the victim. Can you deny that Kap costs much more money? No. Can you deny that he has played much worse the last two years? No Can you deny that even in their last games vs this very opponent that the much cheaper guy performed better than Kap with less weapons at his disposal? No. That isn't racism, it's imperial evidence...raw data...

It is just as likely that you like Kap because he is black and it fogs your vision of the quality of his play as it is that a given poster cares about the color of his skin. Are some fans of our team racist? Sure...but that number probably isn't all that many statistically and even fewer of them let it affect their love for the team. If they did they would never have rooted for Jerry or Frank or Ronnie.
Originally posted by Kense:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Around here I would say no. Alex got the crappier treatment. The players performance is what matters. I don't hear anybody defending Devey over Tiller. If you suck you go, it's that simple.

After 6 years he got crap. Until year 6 it was excuse after excuse about revolving coaches, not getting a stable system blah blah blah.

Qb's better than Alex....

Shaun Hill
JTO
Troy Smith
Nate Davis
Kap

That's 5 guys who had people arguing for them. They all didn't pop up year 6.

Kap has had one system and 2 coaches and still needs his playbook drawn out on an etch a sketch.
[ Edited by jreff22 on Nov 22, 2015 at 5:17 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by BodhiPaddlesOut:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Kense:
Originally posted by jreff22:
So you're hating on Gabbert because he's white.




Did I do that correctly?


That's the same reaction I make when people say the hate on Kap is due to his color.

I'm probably whiter than you and will easily attest to that fact that part of Kap's hate is due to his color.

Do you think Russell Wilson would be accepted in SF?
If he was drafted here? Sure..though I think his limitations as a QB may have ended him up in the exact same place as Kap.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by BodhiPaddlesOut:
Originally posted by 49er_Rider:
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by 49er_Rider:
Originally posted by Stud:
Originally posted by Kense:
Gabbert has looked like trash the past 3 drives.

That's OK Kap has looked like trash all season.

Kap will have a better career regardless

Going forward? I doubt it. He's done

Cause your blind bro Gabbert will never hit the playoffs

Scoring 13 against @Seattle is his ceiling.

Those two easy interceptions could've made the score 44-13

Is beyond the QB its a bad coaching staff which resembles a bad team i miss coach
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Kense:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Around here I would say no. Alex got the crappier treatment. The players performance is what matters. I don't hear anybody defending Devey over Tiller. If you suck you go, it's that simple.

After 6 years he got crap. Until year 6 it was excuse after excuse about revolving coaches, not getting a stable system blah blah blah.

Qb's better than Alex....

Shaun Hill
JTO
Troy Smith
Nate Davis
Kap

That's 5 guys who had people arguing for them. They all didn't pop up year 6.

Dont forget Dilfer and Weinke
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
So we score 1 less point than our season avg and people come away encouraged. What a joke this team is. Get blown out again. Gabbert completes some passes on a soft defense that gives up 30!almost every game.

This organization needs an enema

Gabbert was the only positive

Seattle only gives up 19.9 a game, not sure where you get 30 from? Our offense was encouraging, our defense was just downright aweful... too many missed tackles, missed assignments, etc. Your not going to win a game when your defense gives up TDs on the first 3 drives.

If I'm gonna put the blame on someone, its gonna be Mangini and the D. This could have been a winnable game. It got outta hand in the 1st quarter alone.
A lot of bad tackling today...not sure if you can blame scheme when guys are in position to make a play and let it slip through their fingers.
LOLz who cares about Russell Wilson. This team has bigger problems than to think what if we drafted Mr. Wilson
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Kense:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Around here I would say no. Alex got the crappier treatment. The players performance is what matters. I don't hear anybody defending Devey over Tiller. If you suck you go, it's that simple.

After 6 years he got crap. Until year 6 it was excuse after excuse about revolving coaches, not getting a stable system blah blah blah.

Qb's better than Alex....

Shaun Hill
JTO
Troy Smith
Nate Davis
Kap

That's 5 guys who had people arguing for them. They all didn't pop up year 6.
Don't forget fans were calling for David f**king Carr at one point.
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