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Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by KID9R:
It's already national news it's not going to be much more noteworthy if he had won the job already. You don't wait until it's convenient to make a statement you feel is that important. I respect Kaep more for doing when it could be the most costly for him. Could cost him the chance to start and prevent other teams from signing him because of the backlash he's received. I also agree with DeHubb, he's protesting in a way that harms NO ONE. Except maybe himself.

I guess my point is no one cares what a scrub, has-been quarterback thinks, but an elite quarterback who is playing lights out gets more attenti N. He needs to focus on his game before anyone takes his social stance seriously.

LOL. Then it really is a sad state for your country when the guys statement had less weight depending on whether or not he's a pro bowler. So the only way you can speak out on social issues is if you are one of the Best at your given profession?

What's really sad is that a black man refusing to stand up and sing a National Anthem written by a racist slave owner is viewed as disrespectful....TO THE RACIST SLAVE OWNER!!!
Hopefully he gets his football playing ways back into gear because his message can really mean something in the long run.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
you see the bold part?

Who has said that Kaepernick isn't entitled to his opinion? He certainly is. Everyone is. Others are then entitled to form their own opinion of Kaepernick's opinion.

What some seem to want is that because Kaepernick has an opinion, others shouldn't criticize it, that is not how it works.
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Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
^^^^Sorry I don't keep up with what Doctor is on the team. Let me know when one catches a touchdown or intercepts a pass and I'll start remembering.

Gee I must not be a real 49ers fan.

He us not a "Team Doctor" he is a well respected sociologist. I think he us in his 70's now, and I expect he is semi retired. He has helped with difficult issues and troubled players over the years with the 49ers and many other organizations, in and out if the NFL, and in and out of sports ebtirely. He is both a counselor to troubled people and an arbiter if racial prejudice is suspected or referenced. He is a respected scholar and former Black Panther in his youth. Kelly has consulted with him over the years several times when there was trouble in the locker room or with a specific player or situation. The team is damn lucky to have had him as a resource.

Thanks mojave, that's all I wanted to really know.
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Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Matt Maiocco ‏@MaioccoCSN
Dr. Harry Edwards and Colin Kaepernick chat before #49ers practice. https://instagram.com/p/BJqcYN1j4gX/

Who's Dr. Harry Edwards, his therapist??

Kelly's go to guy for race relations and dealing with issues relative to troubled black players or an racially tinged things at all. When Kelly can't figure out what's wrong, or needs an expert he calls Harry Edwards. Man is a giant in his field

20150806_Harry_Edwards_is_in_Chip_Kelly_s_corner.html
He's also a brilliant sports sociologist.
[ Edited by fropwns on Aug 28, 2016 at 1:24 PM ]
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Obviously what he's Doing is not in the best interest for the team and it's also obvious that if it was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning it would carry much more weight, but he's not them, he never will be. But I can guarantee most Americans including Kaep care about this issue more than they do if a bad Niners team win a couple more games or not. And rightfully so. I'm not saying I agree with what he did I just respect him that he had the courage to do it.
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Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
^^^^Sorry I don't keep up with what Doctor is on the team. Let me know when one catches a touchdown or intercepts a pass and I'll start remembering.

Gee I must not be a real 49ers fan.

He us not a "Team Doctor" he is a well respected sociologist. I think he us in his 70's now, and I expect he is semi retired. He has helped with difficult issues and troubled players over the years with the 49ers and many other organizations, in and out if the NFL, and in and out of sports ebtirely. He is both a counselor to troubled people and an arbiter if racial prejudice is suspected or referenced. He is a respected scholar and former Black Panther in his youth. Kelly has consulted with him over the years several times when there was trouble in the locker room or with a specific player or situation. The team is damn lucky to have had him as a resource.
This. Mojave on top of it.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
^^^^Sorry I don't keep up with what Doctor is on the team. Let me know when one catches a touchdown or intercepts a pass and I'll start remembering.

Gee I must not be a real 49ers fan.

He us not a "Team Doctor" he is a well respected sociologist. I think he us in his 70's now, and I expect he is semi retired. He has helped with difficult issues and troubled players over the years with the 49ers and many other organizations, in and out if the NFL, and in and out of sports ebtirely. He is both a counselor to troubled people and an arbiter if racial prejudice is suspected or referenced. He is a respected scholar and former Black Panther in his youth. Kelly has consulted with him over the years several times when there was trouble in the locker room or with a specific player or situation. The team is damn lucky to have had him as a resource.

Thanks mojave, that's all I wanted to really know.

I hear you. Not someone everyone knows about, he works quietly in the back ground. He is a great man though.
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Originally posted by KID9R:
Obviously what he's Doing is not in the best interest for the team and it's also obvious that if it was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning it would carry much more weight, but he's not them, he never will be. But I can guarantee most Americans including Kaep care about this issue more than they do if a bad Niners team win a couple more games or not. And rightfully so. I'm not saying I agree with what he did I just respect him that he had the courage to do it.

No weight, eh?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/27/491636683/49ers-quarterback-sits-out-national-anthem-to-protest-oppression-of-minorities

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/kaepernicks-protest-angers-fans-pleases/story?id=41699880&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_three_posts_vert_hed

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/kaepernick-refuses-to-show-pride-in-a-country-that-oppresses-black-people/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/nfl-players-are-encouraged-but-not-required-to-stand-for-national-anthem/?cid=eref:nbncews:text

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/27/niners-qb-kaepernick-refuses-to-stand-for-anthem-in-protest.html

Originally posted by fropwns:
No weight, eh?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/27/491636683/49ers-quarterback-sits-out-national-anthem-to-protest-oppression-of-minorities

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/kaepernicks-protest-angers-fans-pleases/story?id=41699880&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_three_posts_vert_hed

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/kaepernick-refuses-to-show-pride-in-a-country-that-oppresses-black-people/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/nfl-players-are-encouraged-but-not-required-to-stand-for-national-anthem/?cid=eref:nbncews:text

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/27/niners-qb-kaepernick-refuses-to-stand-for-anthem-in-protest.html




99% of the focus is on Kaepernick and not the issues which he purportedly supports.


In anycase this isn't an issue that anyone who hasn't been living under a hole isn't familiar with. He's not reaching out to anyone that the president and any number of people who have broached the subject haven't. This is something that has been in the media for years. What he could be doing is actually working within the community and coming up with some solutions, using his status to bring people together and push for things such as improved police relations....etc.


Any a*****e can sit down during the anthem and post a bunch of hashtags on Twitter, especially as his football career is circling the drain and he doesn't have much left to lose. What he's doing has no bearing on the real world besides bringing a whole lot of attention to himself.



Retweeting Shaun King 500 times is easy, get your hands dirty and putting in the work to affect real world change is hard.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Aug 28, 2016 at 1:37 PM ]
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The media has it all wrong about Kaepernick, he didn't sit down during the national anthem, he just forgot to stand up.
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Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by KID9R:
Obviously what he's Doing is not in the best interest for the team and it's also obvious that if it was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning it would carry much more weight, but he's not them, he never will be. But I can guarantee most Americans including Kaep care about this issue more than they do if a bad Niners team win a couple more games or not. And rightfully so. I'm not saying I agree with what he did I just respect him that he had the courage to do it.

No weight, eh?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/27/491636683/49ers-quarterback-sits-out-national-anthem-to-protest-oppression-of-minorities

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/kaepernicks-protest-angers-fans-pleases/story?id=41699880&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_three_posts_vert_hed

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/kaepernick-refuses-to-show-pride-in-a-country-that-oppresses-black-people/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/nfl-players-are-encouraged-but-not-required-to-stand-for-national-anthem/?cid=eref:nbncews:text

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/27/niners-qb-kaepernick-refuses-to-stand-for-anthem-in-protest.html

LOL You should go back a couple of pages, you made my point for me. Where did I say NO weight? I said MORE weight.

Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by DeHubb:
I support Kap, He's protesting in a way that has no effect on anyone else yet He is getting big attention for what he is doing. He'll be black way longer than he is a footballer. Why are so many folks up in arms about his protest rather than what he is Protesting against.

I feel he needs to be performing better to n the field to make his stand off of it more noteworthy.

It's already national news it's not going to be much more noteworthy if he had won the job already. You don't wait until it's convenient to make a statement you feel is that important. I respect Kaep more for doing when it could be the most costly for him. Could cost him the chance to start and prevent other teams from signing him because of the backlash he's received. I also agree with DeHubb, he's protesting in a way that harms NO ONE. Except maybe himself.


Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by KID9R:
It's already national news it's not going to be much more noteworthy if he had won the job already. You don't wait until it's convenient to make a statement you feel is that important. I respect Kaep more for doing when it could be the most costly for him. Could cost him the chance to start and prevent other teams from signing him because of the backlash he's received. I also agree with DeHubb, he's protesting in a way that harms NO ONE. Except maybe himself.

I guess my point is no one cares what a scrub, has-been quarterback thinks, but an elite quarterback who is playing lights out gets more attenti N. He needs to focus on his game before anyone takes his social stance seriously.

LOL. Then it really is a sad state for your country when the guys statement had less weight depending on whether or not he's a pro bowler. So the only way you can speak out on social issues is if you are one of the Best at your given profession?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
you see the bold part?

Who has said that Kaepernick isn't entitled to his opinion? He certainly is. Everyone is. Others are then entitled to form their own opinion of Kaepernick's opinion.

What some seem to want is that because Kaepernick has an opinion, others shouldn't criticize it, that is not how it works.

I didn't say they couldn't.

so why again did you quote that and post it here?
[ Edited by Afrikan on Aug 28, 2016 at 1:47 PM ]
Originally posted by Kolohe:
The media has it all wrong about Kaepernick, he didn't sit down during the national anthem, he just forgot to stand up.

He was that damn focused on the game that didn't even realize what was going on around him.
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Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero
Alex Boone not happy with former teammate Colin Kaepernick. Boone's brother was a Marine. Called sitting through National Anthem "shameful."
Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:
He was that damn focused on the game that didn't even realize what was going on around him.

He was in the zone.



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