Colin Kaepernick Thread

It's a you know who congregation in here.

IF true trash this guy and make him look like he hat he is; a one trick pony ---> the finger

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
You wont be here at all in 4 years thats the irony of it. you will be where-ever Kaepernick goes.

Hey mods, if this kind of stuff is allowed, just let me know. How many times is this guy going to get away with personal attacks?

Peeps need to calm down and not be so personal.

This is such an odd situation, not just Kaep but the whole damn 49ers organization the last 2 years.

Question for the zone, this is the only time I can ever remember where I have no idea what I want. I don't know if I want to see Kaep in Chips offense or if I want him to just be gone so we can try something else. I've literally thought about it for what seems like forever and can't make a concrete decision. Maybe I should go work for the 49ers since it seems all those idiots are in the same spot as I. Onto my question, do you guys ever have this sorta conundrum? I always sit on one side of the fence or the other so this is weird.

Originally posted by matt49er:

This is such an odd situation, not just Kaep but the whole damn 49ers organization the last 2 years.

Question for the zone, this is the only time I can ever remember where I have no idea what I want. I don't know if I want to see Kaep in Chips offense or if I want him to just be gone so we can try something else. I've literally thought about it for what seems like forever and can't make a concrete decision. Maybe I should go work for the 49ers since it seems all those idiots are in the same spot as I. Onto my question, do you guys ever have this sorta conundrum? I always sit on one side of the fence or the other so this is weird.

So if you did know what you want, could you make it happen ?

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Yup, still upset over the benching. I sure as hell won't be here 4 years from now crying over Kaep getting benched, that's for sure.

Right! You won't see me starting a Kaep on whatever team thread...

Im seeing a common theme for why this thread keeps getting shut down...

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Colin Kaepernick needs 49ers a lot more than they need him

February 25, 2016 8:31pm EST
By Vinnie Iyer@vinnieiyer
Updated at 8:31 p.m. ET

The 49ers "absolutely" want Colin Kaepernick to be in their plans in 2016. Kaepernick still wants to be traded.

The funny thing is, the quarterback coming off his worst NFL season needs the Niners a lot more than they need him.

For starters, Kaepernick's heart may not be in San Francisco, but that's where his best chance for big money is. If he stays and does his job well enough, he can make $16 million.

It's hard to trade an underperforming quarterback who's at Kaepernick's salary level, because the acquiring team has to both pay him and give up draft picks. Why would anyone want to bite?

The Jets, his reported team of choice, can see they can keep Ryan Fitzpatrick, who's coming off his best NFL season, for a lot less. They already know he's a great fit for Chan Gailey's offense.

If another team wants to take a shot at a QB who's damaged but promising athletic goods, it wouldn't need to give up anything to take a flyer on a hungrier Robert Griffin III.

Kaepernick needs to shake off his grudge with the 49ers organization. He should see that he needs to give Chip Kelly a real shot. Kelly can make the best use of his best assets: his strong arm and running ability. It will be a lot harder for Kaepernick to start from scratch somewhere else and try to redevelop into the special QB he once was. Kaepernick is silly to think the Niners didn't hire Kelly with him in mind most.

That's a commitment to him, and it would behoove him to show the same commitment to them.

The 49ers have the seventh pick in the draft, with a shot at Carson Wentz, Jared Goff or Paxton Lynch. Heck, they even aren't ruling out the possibility that Blaine Gabbert could remain a starting option if Kaepernick proves not to be up the task of starting for Kelly.

In short, they have options. Kaepernick is trying to throw away his best one. At this point, he's not in a position to demand anything. He's the one who hasn't worked hard enough to maintain the edge he once had as the league's most dynamic athletic passer.

Before he can have his pick of where he wants to go, he needs to take advantage of where he is to get things right, to get back on track toward being a $20 million-a-year quarterback.

He should be excited for the change that Kelly brings, instead of refusing to change his stance. When you want to be seen as one of the top leaders at the position, an unwillingness to fight through adversity on and off the field is a bad look.

Kaepernick should seize the opportunity to ace Year 1 with Kelly. Then he can really be in control of the situation.

If the 49ers get the right offer, it wouldn't be too hard to say goodbye to Kaepernick. At that point, Kaepernick would be saying goodbye to his best chance at succeeding in the NFL again.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/4696301-colin-kaepernick-trade-rumors-san-francisco-49ers-chip-kelly-contract-jets

why is it that journalist think that Professinal Athletes have the same mentality as them?

This Athlete should do this.... this is this athletes best chance that..lol.

These professionals have pride... they also are highly confident in themselves....unlike these journalists.

"best chance at big money if he stays here"...lol. Kaepernick already has some millions. He could get more some where else.

Pride does play a role for players. If most of the leaks we have all had to deal with are true, and it pisses us off that our front office allow this to happen... then how the heck do you think the main person who's credibility was dragged through the floor feels about it.

it's like working for an employer that was trying to screw you... as a player and a person. To have to still work under them, when really you have a chance to have a choice in the matter? I mean Kap said this

Today, the 49ers quarterback was asked if he felt he was being made the scapegoat by somebody within the organization, much like Harbaugh was in 2014.

"I really hope not," Kaepernick said. "For me, I give everything I can to this organization. I give everything I can to my teammates to try to help us win and to try to help us be better moving forward."

as well as...

Q: To keep from worrying about your future job security when all this noise is going on outside, how do you stay focused?

KAEPERNICK: I don't play for job security. Whether football is here or not, I will be fine. I go out – I play to win. I'm not worried about job security when I step in this building.

does that sound like someone who is desperate for money? that would put pride/a grudge aside....and act as if the Front office didn't try to screw him?

some believe that Kaepernick wants to leave because they think that Kelly told him he'd have to compete for the job... I mean we have seen Kap compete at everything...hell he's focused as s**t, playing table tennis against the Ausse.

IMO, if these rumors are true..it's most likely because Kaepernick does not trust the front office. And understandingly so. I mean he's on these one year deals. And he signed that because he trusted the front office would make good on that contract...and I'm sure during that whole time he thought they'd also look for the best interest of their franchise QB.

Like Kaepernick said...he doesn't worry about it, and neither should these reporters. They have TOTALLY Different mentalities. But some fans eat these articles up.

No one knows why he wants to leave, pride, anger, whatever. But it is curious he didn't say so until now, so the reporters have a right to speculate.

Those one year contracts protect the team, not the QB. I think they gave him that because they weren't sure about his "Franchise QB" ability. If he thought different... Bad acumen. And they haven't cut him, so they have made good on the contract so far. I think this front office has their issues for sure, but the player and his agent are the only ones on his side in an NFL negotiation. Any player that is not aware of that is in for a rude awakening. I hace mentioned several times that I don't think Kaepernick's agents seem to have given him the best advice. Or he has ignored it.

As for reporters trying to figure out what's best for him, lol, what is best for them is drama, intrigue, and scandal.

When they hedged their bets with the contract they should have started thinking about a plan B/successor plan for on the field.

They have one. Blane is a plan, hiring Chip was another plan to get more out of the QB spot, also the #7 pick could also be used to replace 7. Alot of options to have better QB production than what Kap gave the last 2 years.

If Blaine Gabbert was the successor QB plan, it was a terrible plan. We shall see if they get a QB with the 7th pick.

Originally posted by matt49er:
This is such an odd situation, not just Kaep but the whole damn 49ers organization the last 2 years.

Question for the zone, this is the only time I can ever remember where I have no idea what I want. I don't know if I want to see Kaep in Chips offense or if I want him to just be gone so we can try something else. I've literally thought about it for what seems like forever and can't make a concrete decision. Maybe I should go work for the 49ers since it seems all those idiots are in the same spot as I. Onto my question, do you guys ever have this sorta conundrum? I always sit on one side of the fence or the other so this is weird.

I thought the world of Kap when he first started. Hasn't shown enough improvement when it comes to pocket presence or anticipation throws into zone coverage. I know he's had bad OLs lately, but he seems to panic in the pocket instead of trying to speed up his decision making. He may flip the switch later in his career and understand the nuances of being a QB, maybe.

On top of that the drama that seems to surround him. Locker room stuff, social media goofs, reports of not being a student of the game, that's a few intangible factors that aren't in his favor to the 49ers. I would have been fine with him sticking around another season - mainly because he's had big moments in pressure games, and not many QBs can say that. So in a way I am on the fence like you, but more and more I don't want him to return.

Originally posted by thl408:
I thought the world of Kap when he first started. Hasn't shown enough improvement when it comes to pocket presence or anticipation throws into zone coverage. I know he's had bad OLs lately, but he seems to panic in the pocket instead of trying to speed up his decision making. He may flip the switch later in his career and understand the nuances of being a QB, maybe.

On top of that the drama that seems to surround him. Locker room stuff, social media goofs, reports of not being a student of the game, that's a few intangible factors that aren't in his favor to the 49ers. I would have been fine with him sticking around another season - mainly because he's had big moments in pressure games, and not many QBs can say that. So in a way I am on the fence like you, but more and more I don't want him to return.

See this is the kind of issue I have with the team right now regarding your point on intangible factors. Play wise, Kap has struggled for a couple of seasons and I largely believe it's because Geep Chryst is an inept QB coach and Kap has had Harbaugh as his first head coach who was not a technician, he believed that will alone was enough to win etc.


Leaving that aside though, let's get on to the intangibles. Who has leaked all these intangible stories? Who has now leaked the trade rumour? What is their agenda? It looks a lot like a personal grudge to me from someone in the front office but look at what that does to the franchise as a whole.

This is a f**king embarrassing and unprofessional situation. We have our GM and HC standing in front of the press saying that Kap is very much in their plans and part of the team. Now how much truth you want to put into that is up to you, but the point is they are relaying a consistent message and not revealing the team's plans. Now some moron leaks a story that makes them look like total idiots. The source I have seen cited is someone from the organisation who does not have the authority to go on record - that person should be found and fired because they do not have the organisation's interests at heart.


Look at what that guy has done to the franchise? The a*****e has essentially weakened our negotiating position in any trade and our draft position. Almost everyone on here is blasting Kap, I'll be very disappointed if he does want a trade and moves on because I think he has massive potential, but I am incredibly pissed off at a front office moron who seems to harbor a personal grudge against a player, has set out to disparage him through innuendo, leaks and unverifiable gossip and in doing so has made the team look incompetent and has seriously damaged the organisations strength in the draft and negotiation.

Originally posted by thl408:
I thought the world of Kap when he first started. Hasn't shown enough improvement when it comes to pocket presence or anticipation throws into zone coverage. I know he's had bad OLs lately, but he seems to panic in the pocket instead of trying to speed up his decision making. He may flip the switch later in his career and understand the nuances of being a QB, maybe.

On top of that the drama that seems to surround him. Locker room stuff, social media goofs, reports of not being a student of the game, that's a few intangible factors that aren't in his favor to the 49ers. I would have been fine with him sticking around another season - mainly because he's had big moments in pressure games, and not many QBs can say that. So in a way I am on the fence like you, but more and more I don't want him to return.

Only new to this game so don't try to read too much in my comments
I understand Kap is,has performed at the highest level
And produced whilst under immense pressure
That puts him up there as an accomplished achiever in the biggest of games, No question
The thing that bugged me was when he went into those losing team pressers
after a beating,dressed in an Armarni (or something) suit with rock n roll, bright red headset music stuff.
He spoke wonderfully
It was all positive and all about how things were going to improve
But for me,he lacked the desperation to improve and help the team win
Dont get me wrong I am a fan of his
I just want to see some hunger

good riddance!

Originally posted by thl408:
I thought the world of Kap when he first started. Hasn't shown enough improvement when it comes to pocket presence or anticipation throws into zone coverage. I know he's had bad OLs lately, but he seems to panic in the pocket instead of trying to speed up his decision making. He may flip the switch later in his career and understand the nuances of being a QB, maybe.

On top of that the drama that seems to surround him. Locker room stuff, social media goofs, reports of not being a student of the game, that's a few intangible factors that aren't in his favor to the 49ers. I would have been fine with him sticking around another season - mainly because he's had big moments in pressure games, and not many QBs can say that. So in a way I am on the fence like you, but more and more I don't want him to return.

Agreed!

I think Kaep is a Diva!! In my opinion he is immature and unprofessional. He has a lot of growing up to do!! You can tell how immature he is by the way he has handled all of his press conferences, like a egotistical, entitled child. Sorry, but he could learn a thing or two from Russell Wilson, which handles everything with class and professionalism. I really don't think we did our homework/scouting very well on Kaep because his personality would have showed up somewhere. It probably can be blamed on Harbaugh since I think he's the one that really wanted him.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
good riddance!

Yeah, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.