Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by sacniner:
Wasn't talking about you in particular.

Although, in 2015 and for a lot of the prior year Kap's accuracy has been horrendous. To the point where he needs on of the best shrinks in the land. Great physical tools as an athlete (would be a sick WR), but mentally softer than a Drake love jam.

Haha this is my worry also. He may not be mentally tough enough, but he also showed mental toughness early in his career. I don't see the reason to not let him battle for the job one more time now that we have Kelly.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by sacniner:
I know a lot of people in here have biased love for Kap. I get it, he's still a Niner for now and that's fine. But to even try and compare him to Cam AT THIS POINT is laughable and depressing. It would be a dream come true if Kap figured it out like Cam. Cam has progressively improved. He's an easy MVP pick and better than I ever thought he would be. I thought Kap would be close to where Cam is. We can make up excuses for Kap, but truly they don't matter. Cam doesn't have good WRs. A good TE, but no WRs.

They went opposite directions. I have to admit, I get jealous when I see Cam tearing it up. But, at the end of the day, can't hate. Good for Cam.

There was an interview in the offseason where Cam talked about how much he had been working on his footwork to try and be a better quarterback.


Then you have this jimmy rustler.

"Mechanics are -- I'm not huge on them"-Colin Kaepernick

Then you hear Chris Ault, Kaepernick's former coach speak.

"It's not a sidearm throw by any means, but his elbow and arm are at 90 degrees instead of having that thing extended all the way up. He does that because he's so doggone strong. He's one of the few guys that can get away throwing that way, but when you have to make the touch pass, drop it over [coverage], or if you have to anticipate where a receiver is going, that type of release often times makes you very inconsistent. That's what I'm seeing. I saw it when we were at Nevada a little bit."-Chris Ault

Kaepernick isnt interested in mechanics and as guys like Ault and Cosell have mentioned, its largely his flawed mechanics which are holding him back.



For all those who are holding out hope and see Cam's success as a reason for optimism----I dont think its happening.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

There was an interview in the offseason where Cam talked about how much he had been working on his footwork to try and be a better quarterback.


Then you have this jimmy rustler.

Then you hear Chris Ault, Kaepernick's former coach speak.




Kaepernick isnt interested in mechanics and as guys like Ault and Cosell have mentioned, its largely his flawed mechanics which are holding him back.



For all those who are holding out hope and see Cam's success as a reason for optimism----I dont think its happening.

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Right now Kaep has physical talent like Cam Newton, but the all important mental ability and confidence of Mark Sanchez.

I know a lot of people in here have biased love for Kap. I get it, he's still a Niner for now and that's fine. But to even try and compare him to Cam AT THIS POINT is laughable and depressing. It would be a dream come true if Kap figured it out like Cam. Cam has progressively improved. He's an easy MVP pick and better than I ever thought he would be. I thought Kap would be close to where Cam is. We can make up excuses for Kap, but truly they don't matter. Cam doesn't have good WRs. A good TE, but no WRs.

They went opposite directions. I have to admit, I get jealous when I see Cam tearing it up. But, at the end of the day, can't hate. Good for Cam.

Let's see, CAM is physically bigger and stronger and plays that way (Why Cam leaps into the End Zone for TDs and does QB sneaks, while Kap never runs those plays and one time he did vs the RAMS he fumbled. remember that one??? ).
Cam has better lateral running/speed (kap has none) when it comes to running the ball so he can actually escape defenders for more yards when he runs out of the pocket when no one is open (even Alex Smith is better than Kap on this one ) .
Cam has a quicker delivery and throws the pass with anticipation (Kap doesn't).
Cam scans the field in the pocket (Kap goes to 1st read, rarely a 2nd, then he runs out and takes a sack) and can throw to his 2nd or 3rd receivers.
Cam can read the defense and call them out better than Kap.
Cam has touch, Kap has NONE.
Cam can move good in the pocket, Kap can't.
Cam has a even bigger and better arm than Kap.
etc
etc
etc
etc
Do we really need to go on???

Cam is a better NFL QB than Kap.
(it's the same when you compare ANY other NFL QB who is better than Kap, there will be a list of things the better QB is better at than Kap and Kap doesn't have many things he's good at as an NFL QB (why he was 8-8 in 2014 and 2-6 in 205) unless he can improve the ones he is not good at and Kap has yet to prove he can do that going into his 6th NFL season and that's exactly why his last 2 head coaches got fired BACK TO BACK)

Originally posted by sacniner:

His o line is really good. And he is great. Dude is an MVP and the favorite to win the Super Bowl. A likely SB MVP candidate.

Originally posted by crake49:
I think Newton has turned into a superstar. He's the league MVP. What people seem to be missing about him is most of his production comes from the pocket - he's a real good QB who is also a terror when he runs. I don't see how anyone could deny any of that. And I think he's a good guy - I used to think he was a dick, but the more I watch him, I think it's just joy - that giving the ball to kids is real hard not to like for me.

What I don't understand is why Niner fans need to pretend that Kaepernick "can't hit the broad side of a barn" or is "mentally soft" or "can't get past his first read" or "he has NO touch" or what the hell ever else you want to pile on with the negative hyperbole. Give it a rest for a while. We get it. Some of you have this unbelievable hard spot for Kaepernick. IMO, it's almost pathological with some of you. I really don't get it. Some of the fans around here continue to act like jilted lovers or something. I'm not arguing for Kaepernick here - IMO, he may rebound and come back strong, he may get shipped off to another team or he may attempt to come back and face plant. We'll see. The safe bet is failure, but we'll see.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by sacniner:
His o line is really good. And he is great. Dude is an MVP and the favorite to win the Super Bowl. A likely SB MVP candidate.

That's pretty much what Kap was minus league MVP when he played behind a brick wall.

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BobS:

He still put up 300 yards with no running game and they lost by two points on the road in a conference championship game. Same scenario for Kaepernick he would have thrown for 90 yards and his team would have lost by 40.

He also threw the ball 56 times yesterday with 2 INTs 1 TD avg of 5.5 yards per attempt lol.

FYI last time Kap played Brady he had 220 yards and 4 TDs and last time he played the Broncos he had 263 yards 1 TD and 1 INT.

Sure is a lot better than a Kaepernick melt down game of 9-19 67 yards 0 tds 4 Ints. Last time Kap played New England was 3 years ago, how does that matter now? Also Denver won easily 42-17, the 49ers were never in that game, yards against mostly prevent, means nothing. So now Kap fans are comparing him to Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, when will the insanity stop?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The thing is we've already seen him do it. We've already seen him make plays behind a brick wall like Cam has. I honestly think that line and the way they use Cam this year had more to with his progression than some minor adjustments he may have made in footwork. The dude stands there forever before relasing the ball.

Originally posted by boast:
the biggest difference between Cam and Kap is that one is a leader and the other is a follower.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by sacniner:

His o line is really good. And he is great. Dude is an MVP and the favorite to win the Super Bowl. A likely SB MVP candidate.

That's pretty much what Kap was minus league MVP when he played behind a brick wall.

That was over two years ago now. Seriously, does taht matter now? Yeah, we saw him have success but the regression has been so severe hard for me personally to be optimistic.

Originally posted by boast:
the biggest difference between Cam and Kap is that one is a leader and the other is a follower.