Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by eastie:
How does a QB go from leading a comeback in the playoffs at Atlanta just two years ago to the guy that doesn't even see that his WR is uncovered at the line of scrimmage? What has happened here? Kap is not unintelligent. His wonderlick score testifies to that.

Ryan Fitzpatrick also had a high Wonderlic score. Dan Marino had a low one. We're not discussing regular intelligence or book smarts here, its about QB IQ, the intelligence of knowing what to do in the moment, understanding what the defense is doing, being able to attack their weakpoints, adjusting to a defense as the game goes on, consistently throwing the ball with touch and accuracy to just the right spot so that your receivers can pick up maximum yardage. Knowing when to run for it, knowing when to throw the ball away, being aware of how much time is left on the gameclock and the playclock...etc.

Kaepernick might be a really bright guy in general but in terms of quarterbacking, his IQ is mediocre at best. He came out like gangbusters and took the league by storm, the difference is that the NFL adjusted to him, they have largely taken away what he likes to do and teams are forcing him to make quick reads and be decisive on where he goes with the football, forcing him to throw accurately and he's showing that he isn't capable of it.

#7tormcoming!

Originally posted by znk916:
Why bench him?

Playing him every down is our best chance at the #1 pick.

because if he gets hurt we have to pay him and then he isn't going anywhere.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by eastie:
How does a QB go from leading a comeback in the playoffs at Atlanta just two years ago to the guy that doesn't even see that his WR is uncovered at the line of scrimmage? What has happened here? Kap is not unintelligent. His wonderlick score testifies to that. My guess is that the psychology of the coaching staff and management has confounded the guy into paralysis. What sort of instructions is he being given? What philosophy is being used by management and the coaching staff? " Colin, do what we tell you to do. It's the right thing to do, regardless." Are there false promises being made here? The kid was ballin and now he cant even accomplish the most basic acts on the field. His talent didn't just disappear one night never to return. Something happened. Something that isn't being discussed. Somebody did or said something to him and he's following that to his own determent. Something stinks here and it's a lot more than the current QB...

So what's the solution, feel bad for Kap and keep trotting him out there? Bring him back at $18 million next year if he plays the way he is? Feel bad for him more and figure out why he is "shell shocked." Is it wrong to hope that he can figure some of the obvious s**t out? Yeah, he has a joke of a coaching staff and o line but we all see him miss basic stuff even when he has time. Also, if his psyche is that soft that is a HUGE negative attribute for an NFL player

I don't think people are asking him to do too much. Just be functional.

I have no idea what the solution is. I just wonder how a young man that is playing a game that he loves to play, all of a sudden can't play the game. How does his desire to win get subjugated to the point that obvious situations are not recognized? If you play this game, you play to win. There is no other option. You have to be a warrior out there because every play is a battle, and nobody wants to lose. So where did that thing, that desire to win every battle, go for Kap? I think that if I were the coach, my instructions to him before the game would be something along the lines of "f**k it. Go out there and rip these guys a new a*****e. Take no prisoners and stomp on their neck when they hit the ground." "oh, and I don't give a f**k how you accomplish that, just get it done. Be the warrior that you are."
Yeah, that's the ticket. Inspirational talk..lol

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So he was playing like he is now in 2012/2013 ?

not even close, he made changes at the line..done almost what all great QBs can do.

He's shell shocked and has no one under him thats making him fight for his job

In 2012 defenses hadn't mapped out his tendencies and weaknesses. We saw it begin in 2013 and as teams have taken away what he likes to do most, he's had to expand his skillset and become a more complete quarterback, he has been unable to do that whatsoever. He just doesn't have it, its not about his arm or his physical abilities, its about what is going on upstairs.


If you watch Derek Carr or Teddy Bridgewater, even if their stats aren't spectacular on a given day, you see more awareness and QB IQ than we've seen from Kaepernick in his entire career thus far. Bridgewater may not be anything great but he has a keen understanding of situational football, he doesn't take a lot of unnecessary sacks, he is consistent in moving through his progressions, he shows awareness based on the playclock and what particular situation the team is in, he adjusts what he's doing based on the looks that he sees from the defense, just a more complete quarterback, even if he lacks the physical talent of Kaepernick.


I've been a supporter of his for a long time but he's not coming around and a million excuses for why he's struggling isn't going to change the fact that he doesn't consistently look like an NFL quarterback. He plays great sporadically, at times makes plays that no other QB in the NFL can make but his limitations are what they are and defenses will forever be keying on them because his physical abilities can't mask his inefficiencies when it comes to reading defenses and consistently understanding where he needs to go with the football.

I'm not sure if its FB IQ, but Carr does give his play makers a chance to make a play..that what kaep doesn't do right now. He's so shell shocked that he can't even see things that he used to do well anymore.

The only way to light a fire under his ass is to bench him, and if that doesnt work..then its time to go

Originally posted by cris_sonic:



#7tormcoming!

This is QB IQ defined....or a lack of it. You have a receiver completely uncovered, you quickly call a basic pass protection, snap the ball, toss it to your receiver and let him go off to the races.

Jets need a QB send him to NY asap

Originally posted by eastie:
I have no idea what the solution is. I just wonder how a young man that is playing a game that he loves to play, all of a sudden can't play the game.

Because teams have taken away what he loves to do and thus are forcing him to do what he's not very good at. It should be a clue that 5 years in, coaches are still talking about "simplifying" the offense for Kaepernick. Those words should never come up in a conversation about a QB that is in his 5th season now.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Jets need a QB send him to NY asap

Sure. Give me for 1st round and OL please..

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This is QB IQ defined....or a lack of it. You have a receiver completely uncovered, you quickly call a basic pass protection, snap the ball, toss it to your receiver and let him go off to the races.

It's actually the worst mistake I've ever seen him make because it's just so clueless.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
Wet muddy and who were his receivers? I don't remember Manning doing much better.

Dude completed ONE pass to a WR that night...Alex didn't help them that's for sure.

You're right. One. There were 4 WRs in that game. Guess how many are still in football? Alex didn't play a great game, but considering, that was to be expected. Still he did enough to get the win if there weren't several other huge mistakes made..unfortunately, there were and he didn't.

To this day I don't know why we didn't run more...Gore was a beast every time he touched the ball.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by cris_sonic:

#7tormcoming!

This is QB IQ defined....or a lack of it. You have a receiver completely uncovered, you quickly call a basic pass protection, snap the ball, toss it to your receiver and let him go off to the races.

I mean, this could've been a game changer. Instead, we wind up letting the game get completely flipped in favor of St. Louis. Phoenix is right. Kaepernick keeps making the same mistakes again and again and again and again.

At this point, to me, Kaepernick has become what Matt Schaub became and he may never regain his previous form.

"Let Kap be Kap"


this is who he is.

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This is QB IQ defined....or a lack of it. You have a receiver completely uncovered, you quickly call a basic pass protection, snap the ball, toss it to your receiver and let him go off to the races.

It's actually the worst mistake I've ever seen him make because it's just so clueless.

Tomsula came out and said that Kap had the opportunity to change the play if he didn't like what he saw.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by eastie:
How does a QB go from leading a comeback in the playoffs at Atlanta just two years ago to the guy that doesn't even see that his WR is uncovered at the line of scrimmage? What has happened here? Kap is not unintelligent. His wonderlick score testifies to that.

Ryan Fitzpatrick also had a high Wonderlic score. Dan Marino had a low one. We're not discussing regular intelligence or book smarts here, its about QB IQ, the intelligence of knowing what to do in the moment, understanding what the defense is doing, being able to attack their weakpoints, adjusting to a defense as the game goes on, consistently throwing the ball with touch and accuracy to just the right spot so that your receivers can pick up maximum yardage. Knowing when to run for it, knowing when to throw the ball away, being aware of how much time is left on the gameclock and the playclock...etc.

Kaepernick might be a really bright guy in general but in terms of quarterbacking, his IQ is mediocre at best. He came out like gangbusters and took the league by storm, the difference is that the NFL adjusted to him, they have largely taken away what he likes to do and teams are forcing him to make quick reads and be decisive on where he goes with the football, forcing him to throw accurately and he's showing that he isn't capable of it.

That sounds real neat and simple, but I'm not buying it. There is much more to this than , he's not capable and the league has caught up with him. He was playing much smarter and much more aggressively a couple of years ago. He was throwing the ball into tight windows, where now he's like Alex was later in his time here, won't even attempt it. He's also not seeing things that he was seeing before.