49ers Offensive Line

I'm worried about McG! For the past ten years our RT spot has been a cursed spot! A Davis decides his couch was a much better work space than the SF OL, Jonathan Martin...became Jonathan Martin. Erik Pears...! Not since 2007 has the niners had a RT who had the talent to become a LT...Joe Staley! Of course, Davis had the talent but not the mentality. Wonder how his weight is?

I'm burning a candle for McGlinchey!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jeepzilla:

We sure pulled another one on that Patriots organization!!

Dem idiots got stuck with Brown!
No wonder they are in the cellar all the time!

Some people around here
Lol

The 49ers got a franchise QB from them for a 2nd rounder.


The Cardinals got the guy who led the NFL in sacks last season from them for a 2nd rounder.

Carolina got the equivalent of a 3rd rounder from them in exchange for Kony Ealy who New England cut a few months later.

Yea but I'm pretty sure the Pats have done more things right then wrong..

Very disappointed wasting a pick on an ACL..

Could have grabbed OBO to at least "compete" our other "pass rushers" ( ) instead of an ACL..

I like McG in the 1st that's fine. I asked quite a few times in the T Brown thread if pass block was valued higher then run block, and I didn't see one post say run block over pass block, UNTIL he was traded..
That's pretty telling...

We do have comments about being able to open up the playbook, however, we have guard issues so we don't know what our guards can and can't do yet. And last time I checked, our interior of our line is gonna have to go against some of the best interior D's in the game..

I am 100% positive Kyle knows wide outs better then most, especially me..
so on Pettis, if Kyle thinks he can score, hey, I trust in his evaluation..

I think everyone that follows the 49ers should be disappointed about the ACL pick, not only due to the past but because we have so many holes to fill.. and if they say they are not, I think they are just foolin themselves. In no way does that ACL pick make sense nor justifiable. If it was a premium/premier player we got with an ACL, hey, maybe justifiable. But it wasn't.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

I'm worried about McG! For the past ten years our RT spot has been a cursed spot! A Davis decides his couch was a much better work space than the SF OL, Jonathan Martin...became Jonathan Martin. Erik Pears...! Not since 2007 has the niners had a RT who had the talent to become a LT...Joe Staley! Of course, Davis had the talent but not the mentality. Wonder how his weight is?

I'm burning a candle for McGlinchey!

I agree but I think with Jimmy's release and knowing brown didn't even block for 4 out of 5 games for Jimmy, I'm a little less concerned and think with McG's work ethic and NOT MISSING GAMES DUE TO INJURIES IS HUGE..

Worried about guards with rams inside pressure.

Originally posted by jeepzilla:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

I'm worried about McG! For the past ten years our RT spot has been a cursed spot! A Davis decides his couch was a much better work space than the SF OL, Jonathan Martin...became Jonathan Martin. Erik Pears...! Not since 2007 has the niners had a RT who had the talent to become a LT...Joe Staley! Of course, Davis had the talent but not the mentality. Wonder how his weight is?

I'm burning a candle for McGlinchey!

I agree but I think with Jimmy's release and knowing brown didn't even block for 4 out of 5 games for Jimmy, I'm a little less concerned and think with McG's work ethic and NOT MISSING GAMES DUE TO INJURIES IS HUGE..

Worried about guards with rams inside pressure.

So Jeep is worried about rams inside pressure from Donold and Suh. Well, i am worried SICK about that inside pressure considering we got guys like laken, beadles(gone probably), who are not good a protecting the passer, cooper who they seem to be hanging their hats on, and magnus who may or may not be able to block against hi caliber D like Suh/Darnold. Then there is GArnett, and who knows if he can block or not.

Therein is the "why" of the draft. Why not OGs? Unless the idea was to have McG play OG this yr and get a new OT next yr. i guess kyle knows what he is doing but i am going to be very disappointed in his stewardship if when we play tough Ds, we cannot block in the middle....at either OG. man i sure hope that isn't true but until i see the final product, that worries the hell out of me. Here, i pray i am dead wrong and at least two of those gaggle of OGs end up doing well in pass pro.

I am finally coming around to kyle's idea of blocking and it involves run blocking, not pass pro. IF every play is gone in under 2 seconds, ok, i can see it. IF not, well i am worried sick we didn't at least make an attempt at OG. It's their call, their azzes on the line, but it is OUR QB out there also. And i fear for his well being.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by jeepzilla:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

I'm worried about McG! For the past ten years our RT spot has been a cursed spot! A Davis decides his couch was a much better work space than the SF OL, Jonathan Martin...became Jonathan Martin. Erik Pears...! Not since 2007 has the niners had a RT who had the talent to become a LT...Joe Staley! Of course, Davis had the talent but not the mentality. Wonder how his weight is?

I'm burning a candle for McGlinchey!

I agree but I think with Jimmy's release and knowing brown didn't even block for 4 out of 5 games for Jimmy, I'm a little less concerned and think with McG's work ethic and NOT MISSING GAMES DUE TO INJURIES IS HUGE..

Worried about guards with rams inside pressure.

So Jeep is worried about rams inside pressure from Darnold and Suh. Well, i am worried SICK about that inside pressure considering we got guys like laken, beadles(gone probably), who are not good a protecting the passer, cooper who they seem to be hanging their hats on, and magnus who may or may not be able to block against hi caliber D like Suh/Darnold. Then there is GArnett, and who knows if he can block or not.

Therein is the "why" of the draft. Why not OGs? Unless the idea was to have McG play OG this yr and get a new OT next yr. i guess kyle knows what he is doing but i am going to be very disappointed in his stewardship if when we play tough Ds, we cannot block in the middle....at either OG. man i sure hope that isn't true but until i see the final product, that worries the hell out of me. Here, i pray i am dead wrong and at least two of those gaggle of OGs end up doing well in pass pro.

I am finally coming around to kyle's idea of blocking and it involves run blocking, not pass pro. IF every play is gone in under 2 seconds, ok, i can see it. IF not, well i am worried sick we didn't at least make an attempt at OG. It's their call, their azzes on the line, but it is OUR QB out there also. And i fear for his well being.

Our new center should help out in the interior, but like we said our interior is pretty much an unknow.

Originally posted by jeepzilla:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by jeepzilla:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

I'm worried about McG! For the past ten years our RT spot has been a cursed spot! A Davis decides his couch was a much better work space than the SF OL, Jonathan Martin...became Jonathan Martin. Erik Pears...! Not since 2007 has the niners had a RT who had the talent to become a LT...Joe Staley! Of course, Davis had the talent but not the mentality. Wonder how his weight is?

I'm burning a candle for McGlinchey!

I agree but I think with Jimmy's release and knowing brown didn't even block for 4 out of 5 games for Jimmy, I'm a little less concerned and think with McG's work ethic and NOT MISSING GAMES DUE TO INJURIES IS HUGE..

Worried about guards with rams inside pressure.

So Jeep is worried about rams inside pressure from Darnold and Suh. Well, i am worried SICK about that inside pressure considering we got guys like laken, beadles(gone probably), who are not good a protecting the passer, cooper who they seem to be hanging their hats on, and magnus who may or may not be able to block against hi caliber D like Suh/Darnold. Then there is GArnett, and who knows if he can block or not.

Therein is the "why" of the draft. Why not OGs? Unless the idea was to have McG play OG this yr and get a new OT next yr. i guess kyle knows what he is doing but i am going to be very disappointed in his stewardship if when we play tough Ds, we cannot block in the middle....at either OG. man i sure hope that isn't true but until i see the final product, that worries the hell out of me. Here, i pray i am dead wrong and at least two of those gaggle of OGs end up doing well in pass pro.

I am finally coming around to kyle's idea of blocking and it involves run blocking, not pass pro. IF every play is gone in under 2 seconds, ok, i can see it. IF not, well i am worried sick we didn't at least make an attempt at OG. It's their call, their azzes on the line, but it is OUR QB out there also. And i fear for his well being.

Our new center should help out in the interior, but like we said our interior is pretty much an unknow.

Yup, that is good news. Here's the thing. I love both Kyle and John. I KNOW they saw the fiasaco at pass pro the last 5 games and he saw our qB get creamed...a LOT...and not love taps either. So he has to have a plan and that makes me feel better. I just wonder did he factor in the Rams front? One and a half seconds may be the time it takes them to get to qB. And as anyone or everyone saw last yr, once the ball was gone there was no mercy on the QB. That is what i worry about. Now kyle can roll him out, have a TE and RB in backfield, but he's the type when you see RB or TE in to block , they are both probably targets. So not sure where we are on all this but until i see it work, i am just scared witless.(rhymes with shi..ess)

This isn't sour apples, BUT...i would have been a lot happier keeping one guy i know can pass pro...Trent...and move McG over to OG...just for a yr. Just one yr. Make sure our OG slots can block. Now we got McG, not a great pass blocker, plus the no-pass-block crew from last yr. That is not reassuring. But yes, Richburg instead of Kilgore is a massive improvement. hell, anything would have been. He did help JimmyG get up off his back after every play he got pasted on. But that wasn't much help overall.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jeepzilla:
We sure pulled another one on that Patriots organization!!

Dem idiots got stuck with Brown!
No wonder they are in the cellar all the time!

Some people around here
Lol

The 49ers got a franchise QB from them for a 2nd rounder.

The Cardinals got the guy who led the NFL in sacks last season from them for a 2nd rounder.

Carolina got the equivalent of a 3rd rounder from them in exchange for Kony Ealy who New England cut a few months later.

Agree, and I'll just add Cassius was a pretty good player for us last year, and he was cut by the Pats.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

So Jeep is worried about rams inside pressure from Donold and Suh. Well, i am worried SICK about that inside pressure considering we got guys like laken, beadles(gone probably), who are not good a protecting the passer, cooper who they seem to be hanging their hats on, and magnus who may or may not be able to block against hi caliber D like Suh/Darnold. Then there is GArnett, and who knows if he can block or not.

Therein is the "why" of the draft. Why not OGs? Unless the idea was to have McG play OG this yr and get a new OT next yr. i guess kyle knows what he is doing but i am going to be very disappointed in his stewardship if when we play tough Ds, we cannot block in the middle....at either OG. man i sure hope that isn't true but until i see the final product, that worries the hell out of me. Here, i pray i am dead wrong and at least two of those gaggle of OGs end up doing well in pass pro.

I am finally coming around to kyle's idea of blocking and it involves run blocking, not pass pro. IF every play is gone in under 2 seconds, ok, i can see it. IF not, well i am worried sick we didn't at least make an attempt at OG. It's their call, their azzes on the line, but it is OUR QB out there also. And i fear for his well being.

What guards would be better than the guys we have?

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I just hated Browns run blocking ability, especially in Kyles offense, huge liability

but they say the rookie struggles in pass protection. i thought the point is to keep jimmy off the ground. please.. i am, not being a jerk.. i am struggling to understand ot pick even if we traded brown. of course i hope the guy is a rock for us and should start day one. did you hear that the kid struggles in pass protection or did i dream that last night when i had a dream i got pistol whipped

Don't think the Guards situation is all that bad. Decent to good. You have Garnett coming back. Cooper, Beadles, Tomlinson, all decent.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Yup, that is good news. Here's the thing. I love both Kyle and John. I KNOW they saw the fiasaco at pass pro the last 5 games and he saw our qB get creamed...a LOT...and not love taps either. So he has to have a plan and that makes me feel better. I just wonder did he factor in the Rams front? One and a half seconds may be the time it takes them to get to qB. And as anyone or everyone saw last yr, once the ball was gone there was no mercy on the QB. That is what i worry about. Now kyle can roll him out, have a TE and RB in backfield, but he's the type when you see RB or TE in to block , they are both probably targets. So not sure where we are on all this but until i see it work, i am just scared witless.(rhymes with shi..ess)

This isn't sour apples, BUT...i would have been a lot happier keeping one guy i know can pass pro...Trent...and move McG over to OG...just for a yr. Just one yr. Make sure our OG slots can block. Now we got McG, not a great pass blocker, plus the no-pass-block crew from last yr. That is not reassuring. But yes, Richburg instead of Kilgore is a massive improvement. hell, anything would have been. He did help JimmyG get up off his back after every play he got pasted on. But that wasn't much help overall.

Agree

keeping brown for one more season would have made me feel better in protecting our FQB.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Yup, that is good news. Here's the thing. I love both Kyle and John. I KNOW they saw the fiasaco at pass pro the last 5 games and he saw our qB get creamed...a LOT...and not love taps either. So he has to have a plan and that makes me feel better. I just wonder did he factor in the Rams front? One and a half seconds may be the time it takes them to get to qB. And as anyone or everyone saw last yr, once the ball was gone there was no mercy on the QB. That is what i worry about. Now kyle can roll him out, have a TE and RB in backfield, but he's the type when you see RB or TE in to block , they are both probably targets. So not sure where we are on all this but until i see it work, i am just scared witless.(rhymes with shi..ess)

This isn't sour apples, BUT...i would have been a lot happier keeping one guy i know can pass pro...Trent...and move McG over to OG...just for a yr. Just one yr. Make sure our OG slots can block. Now we got McG, not a great pass blocker, plus the no-pass-block crew from last yr. That is not reassuring. But yes, Richburg instead of Kilgore is a massive improvement. hell, anything would have been. He did help JimmyG get up off his back after every play he got pasted on. But that wasn't much help overall.

It would seem that Trent Brown has a much higher rep among some people in this forum then he did with the Front office. They knew they weren't going to pay him next year so why keep him around. They questioned both his commitment and run blocking and so they opted to go with someone who would be better in both categories. I keep seeing posters refer to this as a lateral move while the FO probably views it as an upgrade. If McGlinchey comes in and improves the running game and can hold his own in pass protection then he can be a cornerstone along the line for the next 10 years, assuming he stays healthy. Richburg appears tp be an upgrade, Tomlinson, by all accounts, improved as the season went on and will now have the benefit of a full training camp and preseason, Staley will probably still be solid for a couple of more years which leaves Garnett and Cooper as the wild cards in terms of starters, with Magnuson as a dark horse candidate and back-up at every position along the line. That certainly seems like an improvement over what they had last year. I guess it will all depend on how they are coached up and what kind of chemistry develops.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Don't think the Guards situation is all that bad. Decent to good. You have Garnett coming back. Cooper, Beadles, Tomlinson, all decent.

Beadles is the only decent OG in that bunch. Garnett was really struggling early on, we just don't know how he'll do now. Hopefully he's much improved because Cooper and Tomlinson have been pretty bad in their careers so far. My guess is Magnuson will take someone's spot with a year of development under his belt.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Beadles is the only decent OG in that bunch. Garnett was really struggling early on, we just don't know how he'll do now. Hopefully he's much improved because Cooper and Tomlinson have been pretty bad in their careers so far. My guess is Magnuson will take someone's spot with a year of development under his belt.

Beadles was worse than both Cooper and Tomlinson last year at least on the analytical sites. He reminds me of Adam Snyder in that he can back up allot positions but you would never want to see him in an actual game. He is a good barometer in that if he gets pushed off the 53 man roster, we finally have decent depth.

If you consider the fact than when Trent was hurt we had Zane and a little Gilliam playing RT, we upgraded big time. It all depends if Mike can stay healthy like Staley has for the majority of his career.

Also Richburg will be a HUGE upgrade over Kilgore. So even though we didn't draft a guard, we still improved the O-Line from last year's group. Here's to hoping Lake, Josh and Cooper can figure it out and make something of themselves and their status of all being 1st round picks.

I bet we carry 9 lineman on the 53:
With also betting Zane gets cut.

LT- Staley 74
LG- Garnett 65 Lake 75
C- Richburg 58
RG- Cooper 64 Magnuson 62
RT- McGlinchey 69 Gilliam 76