The Silver Lining Thread (positive people come on in!)

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
It's becoming en vogue with some posters to bash Jed at this time...so, I'm coming here into the 'Silver Lining Thread'. I posted the below in the 'Jed York' thread - being one of the older-in-age posters around here, it seems I have a little different perspective about Jed and the Niners organization that stems from when I first became a fan when I was very young when Eddie D. just took on ownership of the team.

I do agree with some of these posters - the owner should stay mostly out of the limelight of the football/personnel/strategy discussions with the media, especially during the season. IMO Jed is in no way anywhere near the meddlesome owner that someone like a Jerry Jones is. During the regular season, we don't hear much from Jed re: Niners' personnel, game-related stuff, etc., and we shouldn't. Jerry Jones almost gets quoted after every game.

Back to Eddie D., he was of course successful but not his first few years as a young owner and some people around the league back then were not impressed with him and the way he acted along with some of his decisions during those early years (I wonder what it would have been like during those times if we had social media? The 2-14 back-to-back years at that time were no fun as it was). Eddie learned from that at a young age as an owner. Jed as we know was and is still young relative to other owners and is learning from his mistakes - he publicly acknowledges this, too, which is a good thing.

I'm not making excuses for Jed...I'm just putting hope that Jed can follow Eddie's lead and learn and get better from his mistakes to ultimately be successful in owning the team just as Eddie. Supposedly, Jed talks to Eddie all the time...we've seen pictures and have heard how Jed has been so close to this team since his early years as a kid. I'm hoping all of this eventually comes together to make Jed a great owner in the not-too-distant future.

Good post. Surprising how many people have deified Eddie D and forgotten his errors and in particular the huge mistake that ended his era. He was human. Mistakes, we all make them. But you are right, under the heat of the modern day spotlight the relationship with Bill Walsh, for example, would have become even more difficult. Jed is imv making a good go of it. He has done some things I haven't liked but there you are. He is on the receiving end of a lot of ignorance and hate.

My most favorite lines are the silver spoon line. Yet Eddie D was given the team by his dad and made plenty of mistakes but you rarely if ever hear of him as a silver spoon.people seem to forget he is the youngest owner in the NFL I believe he is 25 years old hell most of the folks on here older than 25 were spending much of their time at 25 trying to find the next girl or party.

Originally posted by leakyfausett:

My most favorite lines are the silver spoon line. Yet Eddie D was given the team by his dad and made plenty of mistakes but you rarely if ever hear of him as a silver spoon.people seem to forget he is the youngest owner in the NFL I believe he is 25 years old hell most of the folks on here older than 25 were spending much of their time at 25 trying to find the next girl or party.

You believe Eddie D is 25? I think you mean Jed is 25 and no, he is not 25, he is 30+ years old.

I'm going to jump in the positive thread. I was perfectly fine with letting HaRoman go with the caveat that we'd hire a fresh, smart offensive mind and retain the defensive staff (i.e. Shanahan, Gase, Holmgren, Chud, etc.). That said, things went in the polar opposite direction but that doesn't mean these moves were wrong. The truth of the matter is that several different combinations of new-hire coaches may have worked with our current personnel. This is a very talented team and it's about to get significantly more talented via the draft and FA and esp., 18 players return from I.R., etc. esp. now that Tom Gamble is on board and can help manage the personnel scouting process and help Baalke and team out.


What I found fascinating to me was reading York's recent comments.

"It's very simple. You look at Seattle. They have a fairly simple philosophy on both sides of the ball. But they let their players make plays. There is something to be said for that. I think you'll see a lot of that from us. You'll see a lot of intensity, a lot of competition, but put our players in positions to make plays."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/york-expects-big-things-kaepernick-new-49ers-offense

I think as fans, we've ALL felt this way. I've been highlighting the Hawk's game plans on offense and defense against us for years. And he's spot on here. I keep going back to the Wilson-to-Wilson combination and receiving backs that just wiped us out. Seattle had a weak pass blocking OL like we had but all of their passes were designed to get the ball out very quickly (ala Manning) minus the mad-scrambles. Another "simple" thing they did was keep their backs and TE's in to block and then last second, flare out in the flats for easy, big time receptions with lots of YAC opportunity. It broke our back. Can you imagine if we incorporated the same "simple" thing and trained CK properly to play off a great pass rush like this? Simple. Effective. And there IS something to be said for that.

This is as much recognizing your own weaknesses while recognizing your oppositions strengths and tendencies and then using them against them. To me, that's just smart OC-ing and game planning and situational awareness. That's something we've lacked BIG TIME throughout the HaRoman era. The same thing can be said about Fangio's defense were we continued to get beat for years by not covering RB's out of the backfield and allowing their WR's to get behind our secondary...over and over and over again.

This current coaching staff does have a lot of NFL experience including at the HC spot so Tomsula will have many sounding boards. Now, let's look at the coaching and FO moves/changes:

Front Office:
Tom Gamble - Personnel Executive - This is a great hire. Tom is very close to Baalke and now frees Baalke up more. He too acts as a sounding board ala Carmen Policy. Plus, if we ever do lose Baalke, we have a plan in place now.
Jim Tomsula for Jim Harbaugh - Head Coach - The respect from the players is off the charts here. He'll grind you relentlessly but he'll also get the very best out of you. He'll now have the ability to do this for every single coach AND player. No more road blocks. He's been a NFLE coach before so preparing a team properly, using TO's, half-time adjustments, 2-minute offense, challenging calls, etc. will not be foreign to him (pun intended).
Bill Nayes - Tomsula's b***h - This man offers more than coffee-runs for Tomsula. He is a trusted agent and per diem therapist.

Defense:
Eric Mangini for Vic Fangio - Defensive Coordinator - I've thought for the past two years, Baalke has kept him on staff, some how, some way, just for this role so his promotion didn't surprise me at all. I think Baalke wants a more aggressive defense so expect many more blitzes compared to Fangio (lowest in the NFL) and many more exotic blitzes. He has a ton of talent to work with. Will he get a 2-gap NT finally? Rush the DE's more? Play Willis/Bowman less in coverage and more downhill? Play the bigger, more physical CB's in Johnson, Cook, Culliver, etc. in jam-press while also employing his off coverage pattern match schemes? This could get fun!
Jason Tarver for Jim Leavitt (Released) - Linebackers Coach/Sr. Defensive Assistant - This is a great hire IMHO. Lots of NFL experience and he'll team with Mangini now. He too is known for being more aggressive so this tandem should at least start out, on the same page.
Ejiro Evero for Greg Jackson (Michigan) - Assistant Secondary Coach/Defensive Assistant (Retained) - We retained this guy for a reason and it sounds like he'll be assisting the secondary which, he is already very familiar with.
Aubrayo Franklin - Defensive Assistant/Entry Level - Franklin has always come off as a smart player and exceeded his own talent limits. Adding him to learn under Tomsula for helping to coach up the DL and assist should be a great hire.
X for Ed Donatell (Bears) - Secondary Coach (Rumors: None) - It's uncertain if we'll go after another secondary coach here or not; or if this person will be the primary secondary coach or assistant.
X for Jim Tomsula (Promoted to HC) - Defensive Line Coach (Rumors: Bryant Young & Bryan Cox) - Technically, we still have Tomsula and now Franklin to assist here but I do expect a primary hire for the DL.

Offense:
Geep Chryst for Greg Roman (Bills) - Offensive Coordinator - Let's be honest. This was NOT everyone's top choice. It certainly seemed like he was the last option but that said, I see him similar to Tomsula and Mangini. For years, he's been training for this opportunity and has personal experience as an OC in the NFL and one would hope, he's grown leaps and bounds since then. Coaches tend to get better the second time around. But right out of the gate, he knows this personnel very well, helped draw up and lead a critical playoff drive for us and reports now are that he may run a WCO with actual WCO principles, incorporate a ZBS with Foerster and Wolford which Hyde and Hunter would be dynamic in, make subtle yet simplified and effective game plans, allow CK to run more as needed, we'll run more hurry-up/no-huddle, allow much more time at the LOS for CK, hurry-up may also help us in the red zone as will getting the backs involved in the passing game for once, etc. Collectively, these are all subtle but great moves IMHO, if true. Will he bring that "spark" on offense that Boldin suggests?
Steve Logan for Geep Chryst (Promoted to OC) - Quarterbacks Coach - This may turn out to be a surprise hire for many. Let's look at his QB philosophies and any fan of CK knows he's been lacking training here during the entire HaRoman tenure:
1. Never take a sack. This is the single worst thing that can happen to an offense from a functional as well as a morale standpoint. Learn how to throw the ball away.
2. The QB must throw against the blitz every day. Throwing under pressure is not natural and must be rehearsed over and over.
3. Set up a quality protection system so your QB is assured he will never get a free rusher in his face. We also convince the QB that he can take a five-step hit-and-throw drop and get the ball gone before any outside rusher can sack him.
4. Know where your hot receiver is, pre-snap.
5. During skeleton drills, take a five-receiver route and have your QB progress normally, then backward through the progression. Debrief your QB after each throw; ask him what he saw.
6. Encourage spontaneity in a veteran QB who knows your system, but discourage spontaneity in a new or young QB.
7. Study great players on film. It is important to emulate men who have taken the QB position and made it an art form: Dan Marino, John Elway, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman.
8. Separation from the LOS is the single most important fundamental to be achieved in the making of a QB. On a three-step drop, we separate four yards and release the ball 1.9 seconds after the snap. We try to get seven-and-a-half yards in 1.6 seconds from snap to hit of the fifth step. Our seven-step drop is 10 yards deep in 1.9 seconds from snap to the hit of the seventh step. Again, the separation drill is rehearsed over and over until this becomes a subconscious activity for the QB.
Mick Lombardi - Offensive Assistant (Retained) - More continuity here and they retained him for a reason.
Tom Rathman - Running Backs Coach (Retained) - One of the best in the game and he's going to love coaching up Hyde/Hunter in a ZBS (original WCO principles he's used to).
Chris Foerster for Mike Solari (Released) - Offensive Line Coach - Chris and Eric just may end up being our best tandem-hires if they do incorporate a ZBS.
Eric Wolford - Offensive Line Assistant - See Chris Foerster. ZBS is "their" expertise.
Tony Sparano for Eric Mangini (Promoted to DC) - Tight Ends Coach - This is a great, experienced hire who WILL actually get production from our TE's and he'll make sure of it. He'll also be a great sounding board for Tomsula as well.
Ronald Curry for John Morton (Michigan) - Wide Receivers Coach/Offensive Assistant - Well good ol' John Morton produced exactly ZERO for us. So I'm banking Curry will get more out of our group esp. if he gets that top 15 #1 draft pick WR in house!

Special Teams:
Thomas McGaughey for Brad Seely (Released) - Special Teams Coordinator - ST literally is THE reason Seattle is even in the Superbowl. When was the last time you saw a ST move that helped us win a game, let alone a playoff game?
X for Tracy Smith (Released) - Special Teams Assistant (Rumors: Louie Aguiar) - I still expect this hire as well.

Originally posted by English:
Good post. Surprising how many people have deified Eddie D and forgotten his errors and in particular the huge mistake that ended his era. He was human. Mistakes, we all make them. But you are right, under the heat of the modern day spotlight the relationship with Bill Walsh, for example, would have become even more difficult. Jed is imv making a good go of it. He has done some things I haven't liked but there you are. He is on the receiving end of a lot of ignorance and hate.

Originally posted by leakyfausett:
My most favorite lines are the silver spoon line. Yet Eddie D was given the team by his dad and made plenty of mistakes but you rarely if ever hear of him as a silver spoon.people seem to forget he is the youngest owner in the NFL I believe he is 25 years old hell most of the folks on here older than 25 were spending much of their time at 25 trying to find the next girl or party.

Originally posted by insanemike27:
You believe Eddie D is 25? I think you mean Jed is 25 and no, he is not 25, he is 30+ years old.

Eddie was around 33 when he was given the niners, Jed was about 28. Neither had done anything substantial or noteworthy in business up to that point. Since being out of football Eddy D has reestablished the family fortune in real estate.

Eddie was incredibly lucky to hit on Bill Walsh, but when his father wanted to fire Walsh, or accept Walsh's resignation after the 1982 season, Eddie refused and worked with the coach/President to help him put things in focus. Chaulk one up for Eddie D. Walsh gave up the presidency when things got too much for him and he concentrated on coaching. All during this time, Eddie D was putting tremendous pressure on Walsh to win. Eventually, this pressure (and his own internal pressure) drove him out of the job.

Jed's career is very similar. Several years in the wilderness with Nolan and Singletary before he found Jim Harbaugh to turn the franchise around. When it became a battle between Harbaugh and the front office, and none of us know all the details, JH's future was written...the owner always wins.

Other similarities:

• Walsh was followed by Seifert, a defensive guy. Harbaugh is followed by Tomsula, a defensive guy.
• No one thought Seifert could continue winning and were shocked that an offensive coach wasn't promoted.
• The defensive players supported Seifert and talked about what a good coach he was. Same is true of Tomsula.
• Some good coaches left the team after Walsh left.

After two years of being OC and a SB win Holmgren moved to a HC job; Shanahan took the team to another SB win under Seifert and then left to a HCing job.

Let's hope that lighting strikes and Tomsula turns out to be a great HC who manages the team well and gives his OC and DC what they need to win. I'm not a Jed fan, nor was I an Eddie D fan. But that fact doesn't diminish my fandom.

Kap doesn't have to learn a whole new system and terminology. Logan seems like the real teacher type we need for Kap. We will finally call some screen plays and throw to the running backs..

NC--great write up! Where did you find the data on Logan? I've been reading everything I can find on the guy and didn't see all this. Gives me great optimism for CKs development (and sounds like he watched Walsh tapes with Montana!). Yippee!

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
NC--great write up! Where did you find the data on Logan? I've been reading everything I can find on the guy and didn't see all this. Gives me great optimism for CKs development (and sounds like he watched Walsh tapes with Montana!). Yippee!

Hey, it is what it is so we might as well look to the positives and see if these subtle changes can make all the difference in the world. I can't wait to see.

Here you go: http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/1/28/7936409/steve-logans-philosophy-on-the-quarterback-and-the-passing-game

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

NC--great write up! Where did you find the data on Logan? I've been reading everything I can find on the guy and didn't see all this. Gives me great optimism for CKs development (and sounds like he watched Walsh tapes with Montana!). Yippee!

Hey, it is what it is so we might as well look to the positives and see if these subtle changes can make all the difference in the world. I can't wait to see.

Here you go: http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/1/28/7936409/steve-logans-philosophy-on-the-quarterback-and-the-passing-game

Rather than quote the massive post, I'll quote this one and say great breakdown indeed.

The one thing I look at that I think tells me a lot is the hire of Aubrayo Franklin. From the beginning, it was stated that we wanted to build and develop coaches within. Franklin I can see as a guy that spends several years getting the experience and then making the jump to DL coach if needed, like many other players have. I think that was the plan for Curry too. I could see the team trying to keep him on as an assistant and then hire another WR coach and after that contract expires, promote Curry - barring irreplaceably great results from the incumbent.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm going to jump in the positive thread. I was perfectly fine with letting HaRoman go with the caveat that we'd hire a fresh, smart offensive mind and retain the defensive staff (i.e. Shanahan, Gase, Holmgren, Chud, etc.). That said, things went in the polar opposite direction but that doesn't mean these moves were wrong. The truth of the matter is that several different combinations of new-hire coaches may have worked with our current personnel. This is a very talented team and it's about to get significantly more talented via the draft and FA and esp., 18 players return from I.R., etc. esp. now that Tom Gamble is on board and can help manage the personnel scouting process and help Baalke and team out.


What I found fascinating to me was reading York's recent comments.

"It's very simple. You look at Seattle. They have a fairly simple philosophy on both sides of the ball. But they let their players make plays. There is something to be said for that. I think you'll see a lot of that from us. You'll see a lot of intensity, a lot of competition, but put our players in positions to make plays."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/york-expects-big-things-kaepernick-new-49ers-offense

I think as fans, we've ALL felt this way. I've been highlighting the Hawk's game plans on offense and defense against us for years. And he's spot on here. I keep going back to the Wilson-to-Wilson combination and receiving backs that just wiped us out. Seattle had a weak pass blocking OL like we had but all of their passes were designed to get the ball out very quickly (ala Manning) minus the mad-scrambles. Another "simple" thing they did was keep their backs and TE's in to block and then last second, flare out in the flats for easy, big time receptions with lots of YAC opportunity. It broke our back. Can you imagine if we incorporated the same "simple" thing and trained CK properly to play off a great pass rush like this? Simple. Effective. And there IS something to be said for that.

This is as much recognizing your own weaknesses while recognizing your oppositions strengths and tendencies and then using them against them. To me, that's just smart OC-ing and game planning and situational awareness. That's something we've lacked BIG TIME throughout the HaRoman era. The same thing can be said about Fangio's defense were we continued to get beat for years by not covering RB's out of the backfield and allowing their WR's to get behind our secondary...over and over and over again.

This current coaching staff does have a lot of NFL experience including at the HC spot so Tomsula will have many sounding boards. Now, let's look at the coaching and FO moves/changes:

Front Office:
Tom Gamble - Personnel Executive - This is a great hire. Tom is very close to Baalke and now frees Baalke up more. He too acts as a sounding board ala Carmen Policy. Plus, if we ever do lose Baalke, we have a plan in place now.
Jim Tomsula for Jim Harbaugh - Head Coach - The respect from the players is off the charts here. He'll grind you relentlessly but he'll also get the very best out of you. He'll now have the ability to do this for every single coach AND player. No more road blocks. He's been a NFLE coach before so preparing a team properly, using TO's, half-time adjustments, 2-minute offense, challenging calls, etc. will not be foreign to him (pun intended).
Bill Nayes - Tomsula's b***h - This man offers more than coffee-runs for Tomsula. He is a trusted agent and per diem therapist.

Defense:
Eric Mangini for Vic Fangio - Defensive Coordinator - I've thought for the past two years, Baalke has kept him on staff, some how, some way, just for this role so his promotion didn't surprise me at all. I think Baalke wants a more aggressive defense so expect many more blitzes compared to Fangio (lowest in the NFL) and many more exotic blitzes. He has a ton of talent to work with. Will he get a 2-gap NT finally? Rush the DE's more? Play Willis/Bowman less in coverage and more downhill? Play the bigger, more physical CB's in Johnson, Cook, Culliver, etc. in jam-press while also employing his off coverage pattern match schemes? This could get fun!
Jason Tarver for Jim Leavitt (Released) - Linebackers Coach/Sr. Defensive Assistant - This is a great hire IMHO. Lots of NFL experience and he'll team with Mangini now. He too is known for being more aggressive so this tandem should at least start out, on the same page.
Ejiro Evero for Greg Jackson (Michigan) - Assistant Secondary Coach/Defensive Assistant (Retained) - We retained this guy for a reason and it sounds like he'll be assisting the secondary which, he is already very familiar with.
Aubrayo Franklin - Defensive Assistant/Entry Level - Franklin has always come off as a smart player and exceeded his own talent limits. Adding him to learn under Tomsula for helping to coach up the DL and assist should be a great hire.
X for Ed Donatell (Bears) - Secondary Coach (Rumors: None) - It's uncertain if we'll go after another secondary coach here or not; or if this person will be the primary secondary coach or assistant.
X for Jim Tomsula (Promoted to HC) - Defensive Line Coach (Rumors: Bryant Young & Bryan Cox) - Technically, we still have Tomsula and now Franklin to assist here but I do expect a primary hire for the DL.

Offense:
Geep Chryst for Greg Roman (Bills) - Offensive Coordinator - Let's be honest. This was NOT everyone's top choice. It certainly seemed like he was the last option but that said, I see him similar to Tomsula and Mangini. For years, he's been training for this opportunity and has personal experience as an OC in the NFL and one would hope, he's grown leaps and bounds since then. Coaches tend to get better the second time around. But right out of the gate, he knows this personnel very well, helped draw up and lead a critical playoff drive for us and reports now are that he may run a WCO with actual WCO principles, incorporate a ZBS with Foerster and Wolford which Hyde and Hunter would be dynamic in, make subtle yet simplified and effective game plans, allow CK to run more as needed, we'll run more hurry-up, allow much more time at the LOS for CK, hurry-up may also help us in the red zone, etc. Collectively, these are all subtle but great moves IMHO, if true. Will he bring that "spark" on offense that Boldin suggests?
Steve Logan for Geep Chryst (Promoted to OC) - Quarterbacks Coach - This may turn out to be a surprise hire for many. Let's look at his QB philosophies and any fan of CK knows he's been lacking training here during the entire HaRoman tenure:
1. Never take a sack. This is the single worst thing that can happen to an offense from a functional as well as a morale standpoint. Learn how to throw the ball away.
2. The QB must throw against the blitz every day. Throwing under pressure is not natural and must be rehearsed over and over.
3. Set up a quality protection system so your QB is assured he will never get a free rusher in his face. We also convince the QB that he can take a five-step hit-and-throw drop and get the ball gone before any outside rusher can sack him.
4. Know where your hot receiver is, pre-snap.
5. During skeleton drills, take a five-receiver route and have your QB progress normally, then backward through the progression. Debrief your QB after each throw; ask him what he saw.
6. Encourage spontaneity in a veteran QB who knows your system, but discourage spontaneity in a new or young QB.
7. Study great players on film. It is important to emulate men who have taken the QB position and made it an art form: Dan Marino, John Elway, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman.
8. Separation from the LOS is the single most important fundamental to be achieved in the making of a QB. On a three-step drop, we separate four yards and release the ball 1.9 seconds after the snap. We try to get seven-and-a-half yards in 1.6 seconds from snap to hit of the fifth step. Our seven-step drop is 10 yards deep in 1.9 seconds from snap to the hit of the seventh step. Again, the separation drill is rehearsed over and over until this becomes a subconscious activity for the QB.
Mick Lombardi - Offensive Assistant (Retained) - More continuity here and they retained him for a reason.
Tom Rathman - Running Backs Coach (Retained) - One of the best in the game and he's going to love coaching up Hyde/Hunter in a ZBS (original WCO principles he's used to).
Chris Foerster for Mike Solari (Released) - Offensive Line Coach - Chris and Eric just may end up being our best tandem-hires if they do incorporate a ZBS.
Eric Wolford - Offensive Line Assistant - See Chris Foerster. ZBS is "their" expertise.
Tony Sparano for Eric Mangini (Promoted to DC) - Tight Ends Coach - This is a great, experienced hire who WILL actually get production from our TE's and he'll make sure of it. He'll also be a great sounding board for Tomsula as well.
Ronald Curry for John Morton (Michigan) - Wide Receivers Coach/Offensive Assistant - Well good ol' John Morton produced exactly ZERO for us. So I'm banking Curry will get more out of our group esp. if he gets that top 15 #1 draft pick WR in house!

Special Teams:
Thomas McGaughey for Brad Seely (Released) - Special Teams Coordinator - ST literally is THE reason Seattle is even in the Superbowl. When was the last time you saw a ST move that helped us win a game, let alone a playoff game?
X for Tracy Smith (Released) - Special Teams Assistant (Rumors: Louie Aguiar) - I still expect this hire as well.

Great post. Its always good to look at the sum of the parts. I am excited and believe with the work Kap is doing, Logan and a refocus on the Offense we will be light years ahead. We know clearly the team to beat is Seattle and will focus on how to attach that D. Adding some young talent to the offense will help as well.

I'm a big NC State fan and became familiar with Logan in the 90's when he was with ECU. They always had a dynamic offense.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
NC--great write up! Where did you find the data on Logan? I've been reading everything I can find on the guy and didn't see all this. Gives me great optimism for CKs development (and sounds like he watched Walsh tapes with Montana!). Yippee!

Hey, it is what it is so we might as well look to the positives and see if these subtle changes can make all the difference in the world. I can't wait to see.

Here you go: http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/1/28/7936409/steve-logans-philosophy-on-the-quarterback-and-the-passing-game

Rather than quote the massive post, I'll quote this one and say great breakdown indeed.

The one thing I look at that I think tells me a lot is the hire of Aubrayo Franklin. From the beginning, it was stated that we wanted to build and develop coaches within. Franklin I can see as a guy that spends several years getting the experience and then making the jump to DL coach if needed, like many other players have. I think that was the plan for Curry too. I could see the team trying to keep him on as an assistant and then hire another WR coach and after that contract expires, promote Curry - barring irreplaceably great results from the incumbent.

Thank you! It makes perfect sense when you look at Baalke's MO. He has developed an internal farm system with players...from PS to starters, from I.R. to starters, from UDFA's to starters, low-grade FA's and rookies to starters, etc. Why not the same approach for coaches, hence why we eventually saw promotions within with Tomsula, Mangini and Geep and a few others?

Originally posted by NW9ER:
Great post. Its always good to look at the sum of the parts. I am excited and believe with the work Kap is doing, Logan and a refocus on the Offense we will be light years ahead. We know clearly the team to beat is Seattle and will focus on how to attach that D. Adding some young talent to the offense will help as well.

I'm a big NC State fan and became familiar with Logan in the 90's when he was with ECU. They always had a dynamic offense.

We're still learning so much about the offensive philosophies of both Geep and Logan so if you have any thoughts/ideas as to what we can expect employed here now and going forward, please provide some insight! Thanks...

Originally posted by NCommand:
Thank you! It makes perfect sense when you look at Baalke's MO. He has developed an internal farm system with players...from PS to starters, from I.R. to starters, from UDFA's to starters, low-grade FA's and rookies to starters, etc. Why not the same approach for coaches, hence why we eventually saw promotions within with Tomsula, Mangini and Geep and a few others?

Good point...I wonder if that farm system takes a hit this year due to the salary cap issues. The niners desperately need help on the DL (if J Smith retires), WR to add speed, OL to switch to ZB, and a speed pass rusher. None of those exist in the farm system so they need to use the draft and FAcy. If they rely on FAcy the cap room will disappear quickly.

If they concentrate on offense, as many think they will, the draft may go WR, OL, DL in the first three rounds. They also need a better back up QB if they are going to turn CK loose. They may not be able to play with the salary cap as much as in the past.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Thank you! It makes perfect sense when you look at Baalke's MO. He has developed an internal farm system with players...from PS to starters, from I.R. to starters, from UDFA's to starters, low-grade FA's and rookies to starters, etc. Why not the same approach for coaches, hence why we eventually saw promotions within with Tomsula, Mangini and Geep and a few others?

Good point...I wonder if that farm system takes a hit this year due to the salary cap issues. The niners desperately need help on the DL (if J Smith retires), WR to add speed, OL to switch to ZB, and a speed pass rusher. None of those exist in the farm system so they need to use the draft and FAcy. If they rely on FAcy the cap room will disappear quickly.

If they concentrate on offense, as many think they will, the draft may go WR, OL, DL in the first three rounds. They also need a better back up QB if they are going to turn CK loose. They may not be able to play with the salary cap as much as in the past.

Funny, I was just updating my 2015 Team Needs thread!

I hope there is a silver lining

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NW9ER:
Great post. Its always good to look at the sum of the parts. I am excited and believe with the work Kap is doing, Logan and a refocus on the Offense we will be light years ahead. We know clearly the team to beat is Seattle and will focus on how to attach that D. Adding some young talent to the offense will help as well.

I'm a big NC State fan and became familiar with Logan in the 90's when he was with ECU. They always had a dynamic offense.

We're still learning so much about the offensive philosophies of both Geep and Logan so if you have any thoughts/ideas as to what we can expect employed here now and going forward, please provide some insight! Thanks...

I Happen to live in Seattle now so there is non stop Seahawks fans everywhere. My entire neighborhood is decked out. I still wear my Niners gear and tell those who question it that " Iron Sharpens Iron".

Logan was running a lot of no huddle back then. It will be interesting to see how him and Geep can take our current playbook, condense the verbiage a bit and get the backs involved in the passing game. I am sure that Geep has learned a lot over the years. Even with the statement by Baalke that we are going to run the ball he knows we have to be able to pass. Logan did a great job of breaking down the Superbowl and mentioned option routes in the middle of the defense as a way to attach Seattle. They have the entire offseason to come up with something and I think they will opt for a more diverse attack.