The 49ers 2015 Coaching Search Thread(All Rumors Here) | Page 395

Phoenix49ers · 2014-12-17T09:10:01-08:00

Updated the last thread, added a couple new choices that came up, eliminated some of the least popular ones, so here we go. Please put all coaching rumors and debate in this thread rather than creating new ones. My quick thoughts on each candidate. Mike Holmgren-A coaching great, a Super Bowl winner, great with QB's and a local guy. The downside is that he's 67, has been out of coaching for awhile and I don't know how strong the motivation is to put in the ridiculous hours that being a head coach requires. He seems interested according to various reports, but guys with that lengthy of a layoff from coaching don't often tend to do well. Pep Hamilton-The Colts offense has been explosive, Hamilton has done a very good job in utilizing the various pieces of his offense. However it has not been a very balanced offense, they obviously lacking talent at RB but it leaves one to wonder whether Luck is more responsible for the success that Indy has had than Hamilton. Adam Gase-Definitely a favorite of mine, has had some highly successful people vouching for him, is seeing as one of the top head coaching candidates going into 2015, could have had a job as a head coach in 2014 but turned it down in favor of more seasoning. Has shown he's very flexible in his approach, having coached Tebow and helped adjust the offense for him as well as having earned the respect of Manning for his offensive creativity. Young coach and just as with Hamilton, there's questions about whether his success has more to do with the quarterback running the offense than him. Gary Kubiak-All in all this this might be the best, most balanced candidate IMO. Was the QB coach on the 1994 49ers Superbowl team, recognized as having a tremendous offensive mind, his work with Baltimore as their OC has been outstanding. Their offense is ranked in the Top 10 of the NFL for the first time since 1997. A Ravens OL that was one of the worst in the NFL last season now all of a sudden is among the best in yards rushing before contact(3.1) and a low amount of sacks. Flacco is thriving and Justin Forsett has looked beastly in Kubiak's zone blocking scheme. Has head coaching experience, but isn't super old, only a few years older than Harbaugh was. Well experienced guy who has won Superbowl's as a QB coach and an OC. In the event that the 49ers were to lose Fangio, Kubiak could have Wade Phillips on deck to be the defensive coordinator. Issues to look at would be what changes he would make since things fell apart with the Texans and especially to look at health related concerns. But all in all, Kubiak presents the fewest concerns in my mind and from top to bottom would be dealing with a better roster than he ever had with the Texans. Vic Fangio-Seemingly the most popular internal candidate from these forums. A tremendous DC with a lot of coaching experience. Respected by the players and could probably keep most of the defensive staff intact. The familiarity would still remain as Fangio has been here for the entire Harbaugh era making for perhaps a much smoother transition. The downside is now that you need to find a quality OC and be at that person's mercy essentially the same way Nolan was. Jim Mora-He was brought up in a few places as a guy that would be interested perhaps in the 49ers making him an offer. Was a DC with the 49ers for quite a few years, also has head coaching experience in the NFL. Not a guy I'm real thrilled about but someone that has been brought up enough times to warrant consideration here. David Shaw-Seen as a popular choice, local guy, much more affable and media-friendly than Harbaugh is. Experienced coach that has been around a bit but the downside is that he's been criticized for similar struggles as this offense has had, scoring in the red zone....etc. I think his hiring would largely depend on who he brings to the table as an OC.

Jan 3, 2015 at 2:46 AM

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mayo49
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I need some 49ers coaching search news.

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Jan 3, 2015 at 3:03 AM

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Originally posted by mayo49:
I need some 49ers coaching search news.

after we get our guy you'll be wanting some FA or draft updates, it never ends

Jan 3, 2015 at 3:18 AM

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Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Favorite:
#1. Gase (keep Fangio and D Staff)
#2. Fangio (Vet OC Like Trestman or Hue Jackson..if they would let us)
#3. Ryan (With a GOOD OC, he probably would bring in garbage though, Could easily switch 3 and 4 around but I'm hoping #1 anyways)
#4. Kubiak (possibly Holmgren and Shanahan... I think they are past their prime though but would be interesting)
#5. Austin/Bowles (Be near the top of my list if we had a great O and a bad D. Rather just keep Fangio.
#6 Jackson or Hamilton (especially if we keep Fangio and d staff)

Least Favorite:
College Coaches Especially Mora, Helfrich....Bevell, Most of the Retreads, Dan Quinn, Tomsula (be great for 1-2 seasons but rah rah gets old fast, wouldnt bring in good OC likely plus lose Fangio and D staff maybe)

My Dark Horse To Succeed As A HC Although Likely Won't Be Hire By Us: Teryl Austin

I still have questions about Gase and who really runs Denver's offense-him or manning? I would put Fangio #1 and Kubiak #2. I would be rather upset/surprise if they hire another defensive mind to be the head coach over Fangio. It would be an extreme slap in the face to Fangio IMO.

Gase runs the offense! He's calling plays up till the headset is shut off. He even gives Peyton the audible options. Numerous articles on this. It would be a joke for the Niners to let him slip out of our hands

Jan 3, 2015 at 3:26 AM

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You guys are cheering for Shannahan praying in the witches coven we get Holmgren. It's not going to work with these two, sorry guys. Number one there both to damn old, ancient can we say. The oldest coach to ever win the Super Bowl was Dick Vermil he was 63. Now y'all are hooting and hollering for these talented, intellegent old farts?! There both sub 70. It's crazy. The other stat is any coach who has won a Super Bowl has never ever gone on to win it with another team... Never! That includes these two AARP canidates. So lets just move on from these two legends. Niether hasn't won a Super Bowl since the 90's. There ships have sailed and partially sunk by now...

Jan 3, 2015 at 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by 49ersPrincipality:
You guys are cheering for Shannahan praying in the witches coven we get Holmgren. It's not going to work with these two, sorry guys. Number one there both to damn old, ancient can we say. The oldest coach to ever win the Super Bowl was Dick Vermil he was 63. Now y'all are hooting and hollering for these talented, intellegent old farts?! There both sub 70. It's crazy. The other stat is any coach who has won a Super Bowl has never ever gone on to win it with another team... Never! That includes these two AARP canidates. So lets just move on from these two legends. Niether hasn't won a Super Bowl since the 90's. There ships have sailed and partially sunk by now...

Coughlin in the 2012 Superbowl was 65. He is still coaching at 68 turning 69 this year.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7546589/2012-super-bowl-new-york-giants-coach-tom-coughlin-wants-return

Jan 3, 2015 at 3:39 AM

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Originally posted by 49ersPrincipality:
You guys are cheering for Shannahan praying in the witches coven we get Holmgren. It's not going to work with these two, sorry guys. Number one there both to damn old, ancient can we say. The oldest coach to ever win the Super Bowl was Dick Vermil he was 63. Now y'all are hooting and hollering for these talented, intellegent old farts?! There both sub 70. It's crazy. The other stat is any coach who has won a Super Bowl has never ever gone on to win it with another team... Never! That includes these two AARP canidates. So lets just move on from these two legends. Niether hasn't won a Super Bowl since the 90's. There ships have sailed and partially sunk by now...

Meh, there is a first for everything. I'm not a big holmgreen fan and I'd rather have kubiac or gase before shanahan but I wouldn't mind shanahan either. Those guys winning a SB on previous teams doesn't scare me because eventually somebody will win the SB with two different teams.

Jan 3, 2015 at 4:29 AM

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Originally posted by znk916:
after we get our guy you'll be wanting some FA or draft updates, it never ends

I know, I just can't get enough.

Jan 3, 2015 at 4:58 AM

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Originally posted by Jd925:
Originally posted by 49ersPrincipality:
You guys are cheering for Shannahan praying in the witches coven we get Holmgren. It's not going to work with these two, sorry guys. Number one there both to damn old, ancient can we say. The oldest coach to ever win the Super Bowl was Dick Vermil he was 63. Now y'all are hooting and hollering for these talented, intellegent old farts?! There both sub 70. It's crazy. The other stat is any coach who has won a Super Bowl has never ever gone on to win it with another team... Never! That includes these two AARP canidates. So lets just move on from these two legends. Niether hasn't won a Super Bowl since the 90's. There ships have sailed and partially sunk by now...

Coughlin in the 2012 Superbowl was 65. He is still coaching at 68 turning 69 this year.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7546589/2012-super-bowl-new-york-giants-coach-tom-coughlin-wants-return

I forgot about Coughlin you're right. But dudes a wash now. He barely, maintained his job last week

Jan 3, 2015 at 5:00 AM

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Originally posted by fister30:
Originally posted by 49ersPrincipality:
You guys are cheering for Shannahan praying in the witches coven we get Holmgren. It's not going to work with these two, sorry guys. Number one there both to damn old, ancient can we say. The oldest coach to ever win the Super Bowl was Dick Vermil he was 63. Now y'all are hooting and hollering for these talented, intellegent old farts?! There both sub 70. It's crazy. The other stat is any coach who has won a Super Bowl has never ever gone on to win it with another team... Never! That includes these two AARP canidates. So lets just move on from these two legends. Niether hasn't won a Super Bowl since the 90's. There ships have sailed and partially sunk by now...

Meh, there is a first for everything. I'm not a big holmgreen fan and I'd rather have kubiac or gase before shanahan but I wouldn't mind shanahan either. Those guys winning a SB on previous teams doesn't scare me because eventually somebody will win the SB with two different teams.

I'm with you. My first pick is Gase second is Kubiac. Anyone else will probably be a tough pill for me to swallow

Jan 3, 2015 at 5:06 AM

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Call me crazy but I think Rex Ryan while risky might not be a bad idea. I think he could keep our defense just as productive if not better. More importantly he is a players coach, which we just lost in Harbaugh and that might make it easier for the players to handle. The big X-factor would be who we could land for our offensive coordinator. Would Jed and Trent want to deal with a coach like this again, not sure but the idea is not as wild as I once thought it was.

Jan 3, 2015 at 5:17 AM

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1) Holmgren (perfect tutor for Kaep)
2) Shanahan (WCO)
3) Kubiak (WCO)

the rest of the pack is unproven and unworthy to replace Harbaugh.

Jan 3, 2015 at 6:07 AM

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Originally posted by LININER49:
Call me crazy but I think Rex Ryan while risky might not be a bad idea. I think he could keep our defense just as productive if not better. More importantly he is a players coach, which we just lost in Harbaugh and that might make it easier for the players to handle. The big X-factor would be who we could land for our offensive coordinator. Would Jed and Trent want to deal with a coach like this again, not sure but the idea is not as wild as I once thought it was.

I'm a life long niner fan who lives in NYC..... Ryan is a terrible head coach. He wasn't even .500 after 6 years and only won with Mangini's picks. If we signed him as HC I'd switch to watching cricket. If Harbaugh wasn't good enough this clown certainly isn't an upgrade.

Jan 3, 2015 at 6:11 AM

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