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Slow Developing Plays ?!
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Nov 24, 2014 at 8:25 PM
- DonnieDarko
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the offense is too complicated. too many checks, too much pre snap adjustments. they never get into a rhythm because of it.
Nov 24, 2014 at 8:25 PM
- LasVegasWally
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Do the initials JH or MR work as a clue?
Nov 25, 2014 at 2:48 AM
- BrianGO
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We OVER THINK everything after that point.
We adjust to what we see on defense after the first quarter, and then try to audible every play and outsmart the defense. What ends up happening is we outsmart ourselves, and "no," its not Kaps fault because Roman is cheering the audibles he is making, so he is being coached up to do exactly that.
We make the game unnecessarily complicated.
We adjust to what we see on defense after the first quarter, and then try to audible every play and outsmart the defense. What ends up happening is we outsmart ourselves, and "no," its not Kaps fault because Roman is cheering the audibles he is making, so he is being coached up to do exactly that.
We make the game unnecessarily complicated.
[ Edited by BrianGO on Nov 25, 2014 at 2:48 AM ]
Nov 25, 2014 at 5:12 AM
- ElephantHaley
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This is and HAS BEEN A HUGE Problem This season. It Seems Like the 49ers Offense is Playing in MUD and too slow to Develop. We need quick snaps, quick hitters, quick hitches etc.
Nov 25, 2014 at 6:18 AM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by CMIO:
An inept offense ? See Washington.
An offense that can't move the chains ? See Jacksonville.
Weird...we start games on fire. Look what we did to Washington on our opening drive. The drive against NY looked great until we fumbled. Jumped out to a 14-0 lead against NOs. Actually if you look back on most of our games this season, we looked great on offense to start off our games.
So why is it that our offense just forgets how to play after those opening drives ? Play calling ? Poor execution ? Penalties ? Dropped passes ? All of the above ?!
I think Kaep's at his best when he has minimal time to think. I don't get why Roman gives him a myriad of play calls and audibles to choose from. I'm watching Rodgers, Brady, Romo, Eli yesterday and they're all snapping the ball with 10 seconds on the play clock. I see 99% of our plays snapped within 5 seconds of the play clock expiring.
Why the hell do we do all this gimmick s**t, including changing formations, audibling, etc is beyond me. If anything, instead of fooling the defense I think it allows the defense to set. Yesterday we had our best drive when our offense had no choice but to play at a quickened pace. Kaep's passes were crisp, our running game was on target, and our offense looked great.
Does Harbaugh not see that playing the clock down to zero, while changing plays at the line 20 times, is only killing this offense ?
Any opinions ?
This. The whole philosophy is wrong.
Nov 25, 2014 at 6:55 AM
- Constantine
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I think hurry up offence might be fun
Nov 25, 2014 at 7:35 AM
- genus49
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Do the initials JH or MR work as a clue?
MR?
Nov 25, 2014 at 7:53 AM
- Cjez
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Do the initials JH or MR work as a clue?
MR?
Mark Roman
Nov 25, 2014 at 5:13 PM
- CMIO
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I just think Roman and Harbaugh are giving Kaep too much to work with. Simplify the play calling. Kaep uses the entire PLAYCLOCK to change formations, audible plays....but if you guys have paid attention, defenses for the most part stay in their spots. Not once have I seen the Niners change formation and the defense get confused and start scrambling to get set. They just watch us go through the motions then just stop the play.
It's frustrating bc we've seen the team execute in a dime when we just play our game. Look at the first drive against Dallas in our season opener. After that first TD by our offense, I thought to myself this team will be unstoppable. Then we go into "hmmm let's try to fool the defense" mode by using the playclock, and our offense went caput.
Why can we as fans see this yet Roman is oblivious to all this ?
It's frustrating bc we've seen the team execute in a dime when we just play our game. Look at the first drive against Dallas in our season opener. After that first TD by our offense, I thought to myself this team will be unstoppable. Then we go into "hmmm let's try to fool the defense" mode by using the playclock, and our offense went caput.
Why can we as fans see this yet Roman is oblivious to all this ?
Nov 25, 2014 at 5:56 PM
- RED80_____HURRYHURRY
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Not sure who's fault is what, but I know that calling audibles with 5 seconds left on the play clock is really burns the back of my balls!
Nov 25, 2014 at 10:10 PM
- bigmur49
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Do the initials JH or MR work as a clue?
MR?
Mark Roman
He was so bad he is messing up the team 5 years later!
Nov 26, 2014 at 4:24 PM
- grizzlyadams
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I hate how slow-developing plays are slow to develop.
Nov 26, 2014 at 4:37 PM
- TheRickestRick
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Do the initials JH or MR work as a clue?
MR?
Mark Roman
Drank a 12 pack of session that day… all I remember is WTF
Nov 26, 2014 at 5:01 PM
- leakyfausett
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Slow ass receivers = slow developing plays. There is no speed on the offensive side of the ball.
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