It's a done deal, the window has closed!!!

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by crabman82:
halfway through the season and you dont expect to make the playoffs, but cant acknowledge the window is closed or at least closing? theres guys on this team who will be around for future seasons, but theres a number of guys who wont be including probably the coach. the window on this group has closed or is closing at the very least. i'm a detroit pistons fan and i went through this like 5 years ago after pistons had a great 6 year run. you never want to admit its happening, but after it does you're able to go back and see all of the tell tale signs were there. thats what we're going through right now, fans clinging to the chance its not real and will turn around, when the far more likely scenario is that this group of players is infact in decline as a unit. it sucked when i went trhough it with my pistons and my only saving grace was that we did indeed win a title in 2004. something this group cant say.

I don't think the window is closing. That doesn't make me a homer or delusional. I believe we have one of the most talented rosters in the league (a sentiment shared by many professional analysts [uh oh, how long before someone replies to this and responds with air quotes "experts"]), and I believe we will continue to be one of the most talented teams moving forward, at least for the foreseeable future. We have a pipeline of strong talent on the horizon, and Baalke has shown a great eye for acquiring talent.

It wouldn't surprise me if the 49ers finished the season 6-2 and finished 10-6 overall on the year. I am not saying I expect it to happen, but it's totally within the realm of possibility. Could you see the Jags going 6-2 to finish the year? Could you see the Rams going 6-2 to finish the year? Could you see the Redskins going 6-2 to finish the year? etc...

We've been hit by an inordinate number of injuries this year (for example, Martin was starting because of a season-ending injury to Kilgore; Iupati missed our previous game because of a concussion; Boone missed all of training camp and preseason because of a holdout; Davis has been battling a hamstring all season, and we've had to endure to start the year). The defense has been missing countless starters. Injuries are part of the game, but this year I believe we've been affected more than most teams.

We lost yesterday, so that automatically means that everybody is losing their minds today (not saying you are, but just in general). Par for the course. Missing the playoffs and "the window is still open" are not mutually exclusive thoughts. If we were losing because of a lack of talent I'd be concerned. We're not. We're losing because of injuries and poor execution.

Again, let me be clear: I'm not delusional -- we will probably miss the playoffs. But you never know. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we snuck in.

young guys who havent been a part of the previous 3 years who will become players on this team are apart of the next window and not the current one IMO. by window closing, i mean next yr probably with a different HC and some of the main stays of the past like gore, davis, justin, etc maybe not being around. it will be filled with new faces. as far as o-line injuries go, seattle won the super bowl last season playing a decent portion of the season without 3 of their starting 5 o-lineman and 2 of them were their only guys up front who've made pro bowls before (unger and okung) i dont think our injuries are anything worse then they had on their o-line and certainly not as bad as the 2010 packers who were ravaged and still won it all. my point? injuries are an issue if you let them be,.

Originally posted by crabman82:
young guys who havent been a part of the previous 3 years who will become players on this team are apart of the next window and not the current one IMO. by window closing, i mean next yr probably with a different HC and some of the main stays of the past like gore, davis, justin, etc maybe not being around. it will be filled with new faces. as far as o-line injuries go, seattle won the super bowl last season playing a decent portion of the season without 3 of their starting 5 o-lineman and 2 of them were their only guys up front who've made pro bowls before (unger and okung) i dont think our injuries are anything worse then they had on their o-line and certainly not as bad as the 2010 packers who were ravaged and still won it all. my point? injuries are an issue if you let them be,.

Okay, talking about windows with regards to a certain set of players is getting too semantical for me. To me, a "window" is simply a period of time that a team is competitive. Even if we miss the playoffs this year, I still think we were a competitive team, and I expect us to be one moving forward. To me saying "the window has closed" means that we're not competitive anymore and won't be without a rebuilding effort, which I disagree with.

Also, Seattle played with a banged-up line, but they also have Russell Wilson, a guy who is on another planet in terms of elusiveness and agility. He's also too short to throw from within the pocket consistently, so they deliberately roll him out frequently to give him better looks. I'm not saying their poor offensive line doesn't matter, just that Wilson scrambling ability masks a lot of the problems. Kaepernick has never been elusive; he's always been a home run threat, but not necessarily someone that's great in terms of evading pressure.

A new OC. A bit of work on the O line. Better play calling. And we are back!

Originally posted by English:

A new OC. A bit of work on the O line. Better play calling. And we are back!

This

Will JH fire Roman is the question?

I'm not sure how much of the problem is Harbaugh and how much is Roman. My option would be to fire the s**t out of Roman the oline and the WR coach and bring in professionals. Figure out definitively what type of offense we wanna run and bring in some olinemen who can do it. :Blowing the whole thing up seems like too much.

I can't believe this bs.... Smfh

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

I can't believe this bs.... Smfh

It's just the beginning.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

I can't believe this bs.... Smfh

It's just the beginning.

Why!!! Didn't this team learn from our heartaches? Didn't these coaches learn? This sucks man.

Kap does not finish, three years tells the story. One play, that's all we needed the last three years and Kap didn't make it. How much longer do we wait? Sure we can blame Coach, Roman, the OL. I thought this team would be energized moving into the new stadium, but it has not happened.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by mayo49:
All this s**t is going to negatively affect the re-signing of Harbs. All this couldn't have happened at a worst time for him.

prolly a good thing at this point.

Don't say that. I'm sure some people though Mooch being fired was a good thing because of his conservative play calling. Who would you want as a replacement?

And to respond to the subject of this thread, the window hasn't closed. It's as open as it ever was because the NFL is as open as it ever was. This Sunday proves that anyone can be beaten, and although the Cardinals are number one in the league by ranking, does anyone actually fear them? I don't. And I certainly don't fear the team that was perceived to be number one, the Denver Broncos, either. Give us a healthy 49ers team and Aldon Smith and let's see how we match up then.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Why!!! Didn't this team learn from our heartaches? Didn't these coaches learn? This sucks man.

Hang in there, man. It'll get better, just not this year.

Sad day in ninerland indeed.

Window is far from closing. We're all just very pissed about yesterday

Originally posted by crabman82:

at least kap has those cool lines shaved into his head

He needs to shave that pathetic beard, I think we still have a chance to make the playoffs