Week 7 - 2014: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by znk916:
Amidst the dumpster fire that was last night, it's appropriate how there's barely a mention of the missing run offense. Same old same old, let me guess I bet they stacked the box.

Denver's run defense is maybe the best in the league. And our o line didn't show up last night...

Roman called runs, and Denver honestly didn't go overboard against the run. They just kicked our butts up front. Badly.

that hardly happens to us,, it was a one time deal in my opinion, we will regroup, i know that

havent really run the ball all that great all season...

Good overall perspectives by many in here and this is exactly why I picked us to be 11-5 or 10-6. We're so robotic like this every single year with the same exact patterns, etc. It's reason to relax but it's also reason to be annoyed as well.

Originally posted by cciowa:
nothing valuable can be gained from rewatching that game in my opinion, throw it out,, team loss, unusual one time things happening in that game on that night. third stringers playing a team that is at their peak right now. i would rather get guys back, and peak at the end of the year.. people who are giving up on every single player and coach based upon last night, considering our circumstances,, really should be shown the door in my opinion and not let back in

I stopped the DVR and erased it before the end of the 3rd. I had this game chalked up as a likely L back in April. It was a short week and we were short handed. That said, eliminate a few drops and this game might have looked a little different.

Anyway, the bye is timed pretty well. The boys need some rest and we need to get the walking wounded back healthy and the IR guys back on the roster.

WE WILL BE 8-3 AND HEALTHY HEADED INTO THANKSGIVING.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

LOTS of time left. LOTS of players coming back. LOTS of teams struggling on the Niner schedule. This beating was rough, but the rest of this season might just be Super.

Spot on, Marvin. Spot on. The sun is shining today.

Thanks, Marvin, for posting this thread. Especially after losses when it seems every thread in NT goes to s**t. Now the Fangio thread has gone to s**t. It would have taken a tremendous effort to win this game considering the circumstances. LOL at those blaming Roman. He called the plays to get WRs open. Not his fault Crabs/VD/Boldin decided not to catch. LOL at those blaming Fangio. He was understaffed and that's a deciding factor going against Manning. It may be okay against KC, PHI, STL, but not DEN. This 49er team is not good enough to miss all those players and still beat a SB contender.

When it was clear that the 49ers would not be able to run the ball (miss Iupati here), the 49ers went spread and it was effective whenever Kap didn't target Crabs/VD. It appeared DEN went with a nice mix of man and zone. That's the reason for the INT. DEN gave a look of man, so Kap tried a back shoulder throw, but it was zone.

I don't buy the notion some are stating that VD is still injured so he can't catch. You need a good back to run a route and get open. VD did that. Once the ball hits him in the chest, he doesn't need a good back for that - just concentrate on catching the ball. That drop that could have gone for 20+ yards hurt bad. The Boldin drop that would have been a TD hurt bad. Crabs was given an easy WR screen to start the game and he dropped that. Then he dropped a slant route (I think). A complete lack of focus from these guys on those plays. It's hard enough to get open and give Kap time to throw. Now the WRs can't catch. I'd be fine replacing Crabs with SJ. Play the hot hand. Even Lloyd would be a better option than Crabs based off the past few weeks.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by cciowa:
nothing valuable can be gained from rewatching that game in my opinion, throw it out,, team loss, unusual one time things happening in that game on that night. third stringers playing a team that is at their peak right now. i would rather get guys back, and peak at the end of the year.. people who are giving up on every single player and coach based upon last night, considering our circumstances,, really should be shown the door in my opinion and not let back in

I stopped the DVR and erased it before the end of the 3rd. I had this game chalked up as a likely L back in April. It was a short week and we were short handed. That said, eliminate a few drops and this game might have looked a little different.

Anyway, the bye is timed pretty well. The boys need some rest and we need to get the walking wounded back healthy and the IR guys back on the roster.

WE WILL BE 8-3 AND HEALTHY HEADED INTO THANKSGIVING.

this times infinity

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by cciowa:

nothing valuable can be gained from rewatching that game in my opinion, throw it out,, team loss, unusual one time things happening in that game on that night. third stringers playing a team that is at their peak right now. i would rather get guys back, and peak at the end of the year.. people who are giving up on every single player and coach based upon last night, considering our circumstances,, really should be shown the door in my opinion and not let back in

I stopped the DVR and erased it before the end of the 3rd. I had this game chalked up as a likely L back in April. It was a short week and we were short handed. That said, eliminate a few drops and this game might have looked a little different.

Anyway, the bye is timed pretty well. The boys need some rest and we need to get the walking wounded back healthy and the IR guys back on the roster.

WE WILL BE 8-3 AND HEALTHY HEADED INTO THANKSGIVING.

this times infinity

I'll buy what you both are selling!

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by cciowa:

nothing valuable can be gained from rewatching that game in my opinion, throw it out,, team loss, unusual one time things happening in that game on that night. third stringers playing a team that is at their peak right now. i would rather get guys back, and peak at the end of the year.. people who are giving up on every single player and coach based upon last night, considering our circumstances,, really should be shown the door in my opinion and not let back in

I stopped the DVR and erased it before the end of the 3rd. I had this game chalked up as a likely L back in April. It was a short week and we were short handed. That said, eliminate a few drops and this game might have looked a little different.

Anyway, the bye is timed pretty well. The boys need some rest and we need to get the walking wounded back healthy and the IR guys back on the roster.

WE WILL BE 8-3 AND HEALTHY HEADED INTO THANKSGIVING.

I was going to watch it after comming back from a non - football party, but I've Decided to take your advice.

Originally posted by thl408:
Thanks, Marvin, for posting this thread. Especially after losses when it seems every thread in NT goes to s**t. Now the Fangio thread has gone to s**t. It would have taken a tremendous effort to win this game considering the circumstances. LOL at those blaming Roman. He called the plays to get WRs open. Not his fault Crabs/VD/Boldin decided not to catch. LOL at those blaming Fangio. He was understaffed and that's a deciding factor going against Manning. It may be okay against KC, PHI, STL, but not DEN. This 49er team is not good enough to miss all those players and still beat a SB contender.

When it was clear that the 49ers would not be able to run the ball (miss Iupati here), the 49ers went spread and it was effective whenever Kap didn't target Crabs/VD. It appeared DEN went with a nice mix of man and zone. That's the reason for the INT. DEN gave a look of man, so Kap tried a back shoulder throw, but it was zone.

I don't buy the notion some are stating that VD is still injured so he can't catch. You need a good back to run a route and get open. VD did that. Once the ball hits him in the chest, he doesn't need a good back for that - just concentrate on catching the ball. That drop that could have gone for 20+ yards hurt bad. The Boldin drop that would have been a TD hurt bad. Crabs was given an easy WR screen to start the game and he dropped that. Then he dropped a slant route (I think). A complete lack of focus from these guys on those plays. It's hard enough to get open and give Kap time to throw. Now the WRs can't catch. I'd be fine replacing Crabs with SJ. Play the hot hand. Even Lloyd would be a better option than Crabs based off the past few weeks.

I don't think he cant catch because he's injured. I think he's still hurting and its having an effect on his head. He doesn't seem to be "in the game" on those throws.

Just watched the Kap INT again. DEN did a nice job baiting that throw. Kap had targeted the Go route a few times earlier in the game when facing press man coverage with the CB playing a trail position. DEN gave that as a pre-snap look (cover1, press alignment). When Kap received the snap and saw the CB covering SJ was in a trailing position, Kap targeted the Go route. What he didn't see was Talib (covering Ellington) bail right before the snap in order to provide help for the slot CB. Talib was basically giving up the underneath throw, but Kap didn't bother to look at what Talib was doing. Nice bait from DEN.

Originally posted by thl408:
Just watched the Kap INT again. DEN did a nice job baiting that throw. Kap had targeted the Go route a few times earlier in the game when facing press man coverage with the CB playing a trail position. DEN gave that as a pre-snap look (cover1, press alignment). When Kap received the snap and saw the CB covering SJ was in a trailing position, Kap targeted the Go route. What he didn't see was Talib (covering Ellington) bail right before the snap in order to provide help for the slot CB. Talib was basically giving up the underneath throw, but Kap didn't bother to look at what Talib was doing. Nice bait from DEN.

When I saw the throw, I was wondering if he could even see Ellington. Looked like the line was in his site path. Can't say for sure though...just the thought I had watching it.

Marvin you post on other niner sites.

I feel cheated on.

One of your best posts! Thanks Marv.

Last night we were beat by a better team.

Sure we made mistakes BUT even if we didn't make them we would have lost.

We lost because we were outplayed.

The wars are won in the trenches and we lost both on offense and defense.

Their D stopped our running game which killed play action. They kept Kap form running to the outside and pressured him all night. I think he was hit and sacked more in this game than any other one he's played.

Their offense had one of the greatest QB's of all time and he was on his "A" game. Our D didn't hit him or pressure him enough.

We were dominated by a better team. They were better last night BUTTTT

I truly believe when we play them again - WE WILL BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THEM!

Gabbert scored the same number of TD's as CK did with our starting offense. That's all you need to know. Everything is fine. We'll go undefeated the rest of the way! j/k.

PS: Can we petition to never play on Sunday night football ever again?