PFF Player Grades for Week 2

Ward got f**ked by the coaching staff...idk what genius on the sideline thought someone of Wards size was going to be able to stop Marshall in the redzone but that was idiotic

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Ward got f**ked by the coaching staff...idk what genius on the sideline thought someone of Wards size was going to be able to stop Marshall in the redzone but that was idiotic

Agree. Slot corners are typically smaller guys and they will have trouble matching up against the likes of Marshall, Colston, Boldin, Nelson, and other big WRs who play significant snaps in the slot.

My biggest issue is the 49ers did nothing to provide help. Fangio is a "do what we do" type of DC, no exceptions. He expects his guys to execute the gameplan and won't deviate. Sometimes it works to perfection, other times a little adjustment is necessary, especially when injuries have compromised the talent on the field.

I agree with a lot of this...McDonald & Williams had a good game, as did Wilhoite (all three encouraging), Cox (his illegal contact penalty killed us though), Cullivere, Carrier, etc. Just lots of mental errors and critical penalties by the veterans. Coaches didn't play to our strengths and didn't attack their clear weaknesses or utilize all our weapons.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I agree with a lot of this...McDonald & Williams had a good game, as did Wilhoite (all three encouraging), Cox (his illegal contact penalty killed us though), Cullivere, Carrier, etc. Just lots of mental errors and critical penalties by the veterans. Coaches didn't play to our strengths and didn't attack their clear weaknesses or utilize all our weapons.

Agree. Re-watching the game and looking at these grades, the team as a whole did not play as bad as I initially thought. There was just a 7-minute stretch in the 4th quarter when the score went from 20-7 to 28-20 in a flash. The players were shell-shocked. Never should have got to that point. The Bears are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook.

anquan so strong what happened

Originally posted by znk916:
anquan so strong what happened

2 dropped passes, critical penalty, etc.

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Ward got f**ked by the coaching staff...idk what genius on the sideline thought someone of Wards size was going to be able to stop Marshall in the redzone but that was idiotic

Nobody knows what they thought and if they were in a thinking process at all.

we dont need to rely on PFF for a grade this week

errbody deserve an F this week, from coaches to players

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by znk916:
anquan so strong what happened

2 dropped passes, critical penalty, etc.

that penalty was crap. Unfortunately, most of the other ones on the team weren't.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Agree. Slot corners are typically smaller guys and they will have trouble matching up against the likes of Marshall, Colston, Boldin, Nelson, and other big WRs who play significant snaps in the slot.

My biggest issue is the 49ers did nothing to provide help. Fangio is a "do what we do" type of DC, no exceptions. He expects his guys to execute the gameplan and won't deviate. Sometimes it works to perfection, other times a little adjustment is necessary, especially when injuries have compromised the talent on the field.

A bunch of stubborn coaches on both sides of the ball.

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Ward got f**ked by the coaching staff...idk what genius on the sideline thought someone of Wards size was going to be able to stop Marshall in the redzone but that was idiotic

Nobody knows what they thought and if they were in a thinking process at all.

Brain farts...

To me, they didn't really put much thought into any adjustments going into halftime... no one, including the coaches, expected giving up 3 TDs / turn the ball over that many times in the 2nd half.

We were so full of ourselves after a great 1st half, but weren't expecting the locomotive coming full steam ahead... unprepared after halftime and not really focused on a comeback. I guess the Bears aren't who we thought they were after all

Thanks.

Lemonier, TJE, Skuta need to get way less snaps in favor of Lynch, Dial and Tank period. And I agree w/everyone saying Ward got F'd, he's too small to play guys like Marshall, he covered him well actually on all 3 TD's, he just got man handled physically. It's like if Jon Stockton tried to box out Shaq (okay, maybe not that bad but still) We should have put Cox in the slot and brought in D.Johnson or just put Johnson in the slot in those situations.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Ward got f**ked by the coaching staff...idk what genius on the sideline thought someone of Wards size was going to be able to stop Marshall in the redzone but that was idiotic

Agree. Slot corners are typically smaller guys and they will have trouble matching up against the likes of Marshall, Colston, Boldin, Nelson, and other big WRs who play significant snaps in the slot.

My biggest issue is the 49ers did nothing to provide help. Fangio is a "do what we do" type of DC, no exceptions. He expects his guys to execute the gameplan and won't deviate. Sometimes it works to perfection, other times a little adjustment is necessary, especially when injuries have compromised the talent on the field.

I definitely see what you are saying in terms of Fangio. He has his system and it does work the majority of the time. But there are times that it doesn't work and we have to adjust. And he refuses. It reminds me of a quote I heard about Tom Landry. "I devised the perfect game plan, if only the idiot players could execute it right." Sometimes, they are not capable, and you have to adapt. It's interesting. What do we have in place if our four man rush doesn't work? That four man rush concept only works when you have a D-line like what we had in 2011 and Aldon Smith as your fourth rusher. Neither Ray McDonald or Justin Smith are the same players they were in 2011 (thought Smith is still closer than McDonald) and we have nothing close to Aldon Smith in terms of pass rushing ability. Knowing this, and we had to know this coming into the season, what's the backup plan to generate pressure? This is where Lemonier's speed could be an asset. It's a philosophy change, but we need a little 1990s Pittsburgh Steelers D in us to help the secondary out.

The danger is that we probably won't to do this more than four times a year because the defense usually works, which can lull us into a false sense of our own defense's effectiveness.