The Defense

Originally posted by znk916:
interesting how Fangio gets a free pass all this time with his bend then break defenses because of how bad Roman is in comparison

1 CB back after missing the whole year
1 CB getting his first real chance to start
Rookie CB at slot
New SS/FS
Starting NT out
Starting ILB out
Starting OLB out
LDE having legal issues

not easy for him to manage all that and remain elite

we need to find ways to put pressure on the QB ...Cutler had too much time to find his receivers , making it difficult on our DB's

our defense just isn't the same without Aldon , Bowman and Dorsey ....Brock was sure missed last night also

the best we can hope for is Lemonier & Lynch to contribute more to help our pass rush become more consistent ...I don't want to blame anyone, but maybe Lynch should start instead of Skuta, Lynch has more potential to develop into a top notch pass rusher and needs more snaps to develop quicker , Skuta is solid, but he cant provide the push needed in passing situations ...we NEED a consistent pass rush to help our DB's ...last night our defense looked helpless for the first time since Harbaugh arrived

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

A tired team can't pass rush effectively.

Bone-headed penalties that keep a team on the field will make them tired.

There was no pass rush early in the game, either. Justin Smith is the only one to get any kind of pressure.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

I agree, but I thought the match up with Ward vs. Marshall was a bad one. I would've put Dontae Johnson, Chris Culliver or Chris Cook on him. Correct me if I'm wrong but where was Tank Carradine on passing downs??

Standing on the sidelines. I don't know why Fangio won't give him a shot rushing the passer on third downs.

Agree.

If Fangio doesn't think he's ready then what does he think of the guys he had in there?

They did poop. At least Tank may have been able to generate more pressure on Cutler.

our rushing D and Whilhoit stepped up. that's about the only positive I can think of.

Originally posted by jreff22:
You cant replace half the D and expect not to have some issues. If we dont turn the ball over they dont get super exposed. The O was supposed to carry the D for a few weeks, so far the O hasn't picked up the slack. If we are still in the "we need an elite D to win" mode...we are f**ked!

Exactly. Kaep threw the game away.

Pass rush is a MAJOR concern, it's f**king up the program, what was it 1 sack and 1 hit on the QB.....pathetic.


Aside from piss poor play by the defense, once again the refs micro manage the 49ers f**k them!!!

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Pass rush is a MAJOR concern, it's f**king up the program, what was it 1 sack and 1 hit on the QB.....pathetic.


Aside from piss poor play by the defense, once again the refs micro manage the 49ers f**k them!!!

no one believes me when I say this, but I'm positive this has to do with the hatred the refs have for Harbaugh and his antics.

Originally posted by znk916:
interesting how Fangio gets a free pass all this time with his bend then break defenses because of how bad Roman is in comparison

this

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Baldie:
Some things I'd like to point out and I know this has already brought up. After 2 games:

• No pass rush is going to allow teams to stay in the game - I don't even know if Blitz packages are going to help because that exposes man-to-man coverages and against BIG WR's, thats an issue. Even with Blitzes however, our guys don't seem to get there still.

• Our CB's are going to allow teams to stay in the game - See 1st bullet
• Ward is going to get burned by slot guys like Harvin and Welker - Does it make sense to put Cox and/or Cook in the nickel instead?
• How bout this expirement - going to a 4-3 scheme while Aldon is out? Tank/Dial, Justin, Williams, Ray

Why do you think Ward will be burned? Welker and Harvin are nothing like Brandon Marshall. That was a size issue. Ward should be ok covering the shiftier guys.

agreed, the one knock on ward was his size. not sure why we manned him up on a 6'4" pro bowl receiver all game long. thats a tough matchup for vast majority of corners in the league. need to put these guys in situations to succeed.

the only problem we have is pass rush. that's it.
our secondary played great for a half. the 2nd half you can't give people short fields and you cannot let a qb stand in the pocket for 7 seconds and throw a pass. the pass rush is the issue on defense. that's it.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Pass rush is a MAJOR concern, it's f**king up the program, what was it 1 sack and 1 hit on the QB.....pathetic.


Aside from piss poor play by the defense, once again the refs micro manage the 49ers f**k them!!!

the defense actually played excellent. especially in the 1st half. the bears abandoned the run completely because it didn't work. the linebackers stepped up in coverage and tackling. the secondary broke up passes but they missed interceptions that should have been turnovers.
and no pass rush is the problem. that's the ultimate problem. with backups in there they couldn't generate anything it was pathetic. and vic just let it be pathetic.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Agree.

If Fangio doesn't think he's ready then what does he think of the guys he had in there?

They did poop. At least Tank may have been able to generate more pressure on Cutler.

Ray McDonald's pass rushing has gone off a cliff. Makes no sense that we can't give Tank some of his snaps.

I guarantee Baalke is pissed Tank isn't seeing the field.

Originally posted by znk916:
interesting how Fangio gets a free pass all this time with his bend then break defenses because of how bad Roman is in comparison

the defense was not good in the 2nd half. but if our turnovers dont set them up the defense would have held up we win this game and are not tlking about it. We said before the season the offense has gotta step up early and bail this defense out at times. Instead we are putting them in holes time after time.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Agree.

If Fangio doesn't think he's ready then what does he think of the guys he had in there?

They did poop. At least Tank may have been able to generate more pressure on Cutler.

Ray McDonald's pass rushing has gone off a cliff. Makes no sense that we can't give Tank some of his snaps.

I guarantee Baalke is pissed Tank isn't seeing the field.

I hope Trent's pissed enough to get in JH's face and let him know this was an EPIC failure.