Solution to the WR problem

Originally posted by jreff22:
I thought everybody said having Ham back would fix the problem? Now that Ham is back we still have a problem.....?

Originally posted by jreff22:
I thought everybody said having Ham back would fix the problem? Now that Ham is back we still have a problem.....?

Originally posted by thl408:
One 'solution' I can think of regarding the WRs is adding option routes to the mix. This means putting a WR on one side of the field, in isolation, then having him run an option route based off of his read of the coverage in front of him. This adds a layer of complexity to the offense that I don't know if Kap is ready for.

The WR can break off his route short if the CB is playing over the top. He can look for a back shoulder throw if the CB is playing a trail technique (following closely behind the WR). If it's inside technique, then break the route towards the sidelines. If it's outside technique then break inside and back towards the QB. It's a read and react type of concept that I believe can blossom a passing attack.

When done correctly, in theory, no coverage can beat it because it adapts to the coverage being played. I do not see this being used, but I am putting this out there in case someone else does see it being used in the 49er passing attack. I believe GB does this often when I see back shoulder throws that are wildly inaccurate. Rodgers will throw the back shoulder throw and the WR is not even looking for the pass. This leads me to believe that Rodgers read tight coverage, use the back shoulder throw, but the WR is in his own world and running a completely different route. A case of the QB and WR being on a different page. When done correctly, it looks great. When done incorrectly it looks like the QB/WR doesn't know what is going on.

Originally posted by thl408:
Got Ham back, but lost VD. I rather have VD in the CAR game.

Edit: I rather have VD in any game.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
He will, once he shakes off the rust. He dropped an easy pass yesterday.

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:

Originally posted by thl408:
One 'solution' I can think of regarding the WRs is adding option routes to the mix. This means putting a WR on one side of the field, in isolation, then having him run an option route based off of his read of the coverage in front of him. This adds a layer of complexity to the offense that I don't know if Kap is ready for.

The WR can break off his route short if the CB is playing over the top. He can look for a back shoulder throw if the CB is playing a trail technique (following closely behind the WR). If it's inside technique, then break the route towards the sidelines. If it's outside technique then break inside and back towards the QB. It's a read and react type of concept that I believe can blossom a passing attack.

When done correctly, in theory, no coverage can beat it because it adapts to the coverage being played. I do not see this being used, but I am putting this out there in case someone else does see it being used in the 49er passing attack. I believe GB does this often when I see back shoulder throws that are wildly inaccurate. Rodgers will throw the back shoulder throw and the WR is not even looking for the pass. This leads me to believe that Rodgers read tight coverage, use the back shoulder throw, but the WR is in his own world and running a completely different route. A case of the QB and WR being on a different page. When done correctly, it looks great. When done incorrectly it looks like the QB/WR doesn't know what is going on.

Takes a lot of time to build up that chemistry and trust between QB and WR. It can also require a bit of "stare-down" that defensive coverage can cheat over in time to cause trouble over. Which WR would we really trust to correctly read the D? Boldin is the only one with the brains that I would trust right now... but that still leaves the chemistry and other aforementioned issues.

I sadly think they need to simplify this O. 2 backs, power I-form. Lots of quick PA.. simple 4 route progressions.. short to long.

Originally posted by thl408:
Agreed. It takes a lot of chemistry to do something like this, but it unlocks a lot of potential for a passing attack. Boldin is the only WR I'd trust to do this, however, I don't think I trust Kap to do this lol.

Originally posted by Rascal:

The solution at least for now is to stop this one-read only business. Play more receivers, 3 or even 4 WR sets and I am sure someone will get open. Instruct Kap to stop keying in on 1 guy and tell all receivers to keep the play alive until the ball is out of Kap's hand.

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Solution to WR since they chickened out and didn't get Josh Gordon is to get Moss back here

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by Chico:

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:

Originally posted by Buchy:
Yawn.

When you go back to your bridge I bet you're torn between crawling back underneath it to hide or going to the top to jump and end it all....

There's no need for this. It turns a legit, adult conversation into childish mud-slinging. Be better than this.

lol, children, children...grow up now or go to your room!!!

Anyway, we don't need Jerry Rice & we don't need extra help at the WR position. Boldin is a 10 year vet and knows what he's doing. Crabby Patty is coming back soon and Manningham is a stud (watch his SB catch again). We have stud receivers, we have a stud QB, O-line, RB, etc.

We just got our a$$es handed to us. We played the 2nd best defense in the league that looks strong, powerful & HUNGRY! Our team looked flat after the bye week and that is it! case closed, you may now close this thread! lol

This. Why can't people credit the Panthers awesome defense instead of saying how terrible we are? They could turn out to be like the ravens last year or the giants the last two times they won the super bowl. They were one play away from beating the Seahawks and I bet if they played them next week they'd beat them.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Solution to WR since they chickened out and didn't get Josh Gordon is to get Moss back here

LOL Moss was garbage last season. Dont know why people continuously bring him up all season. He was garbage.

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Solution to WR since they chickened out and didn't get Josh Gordon is to get Moss back here

LOL Moss was garbage last season. Dont know why people continuously bring him up all season. He was garbage.

questionable effort a lot too i noticed. he also didnt catch 1 deep pass.