1st 15 cuts, guess the cuts thread

AB81Rules · 2013-08-17T22:18:03-07:00

We have 83 players actually on Active 90 man. Of those, we have Culliver, Willis, Hunter, Williams, and Patton either yet to play, or unable to play. I dont see Willis playing in any preseason game, so realistically we will have between 68-71 healthy to play for the last game. I imagine 4th game, no starters play, only backups, so we need to keep at least 6 backup OL, in case of an injury. Lets look at numbers, at who wouldn't play against SD. QB kaepernick RB Gore, Hunter WR Boldin TE Davis OL Goodwin, Staley, Davis, Boone, Iupati DL Justin, McDonald, Ian, Dorsey OLB Brooks, Aldon CB Rogers, Brown SS Whitner Of course, Jennings, Lee and Dawson would have to play, I think we may stick with Schmidt till final cuts, to be safe. Maybe also McDermott, though I can see him cut on the 27th. TE McDonald may not play to be safe. I would consider these guys locked in for 75 man QB Kaep, McCoy, Tolzien, Daniels RB Gore, Hunter, James, Dixon FB Miller WR Boldin, Moore, Williams, AJ, Patton, Collie, Hall TE Davis, McDonald, Celek, Gray C Goodwin, Kilgore OG Boone, Iupati, Looney, Snyder OT Staley, Davis, Wiggins, Bykowski DE Smith, McDonald, Dobbs, Tukuafu NT Ian, Dorsey OLB Ahmad, Aldon, Haralson, Lemonier, Skuta, C.Johnson ILB Willis, Bowman, Wilhoite, Moody CB Rogers, Brown, Nnamdi, Cox, Brock, Morris, Cooper, Culliver(IR likely at final cuts) S Reid, Whitner, Spillman, Dahl, Robinson ST Jennings, Lee, Dawson PUP Manningham, Crabtree NFI Marquardt, Carradine, Dial, Wright, Lattimore That is a total of 69 spots locked in. I don't see a CB cut, especially if Brown, Rogers sit game 4, and maybe Nnamdi if he has won a spot. That leaves the following players up for cuts. RB Hampton, Harper FB Schepler WR Hawkins, Jacobs, Osgood, Lockette OL Omamaeh, Netter, Tribue DE Jerod-Eddie, Okoye NT Divens, Purcell ILB Johnson, Stupar K/P Schmidt S McBath, Ventrone, Thomas LS McDermott Thats 21 players, plus the 69 locks equals the 90 man roster. Do we keep both specialists? Doubt it, since Jennings is more than capable of going for the game. Schmidt I would keep, keeps Lee and Dawson's legs fresh. If it was me, I would cut the following. RB Harper FB Schepler WR Hawkins WR Jacobs OL Omameh OL Tribue OL Netter NT Purcell ILB Johnson ILB Stupar S Ventrone S Thomas S McBath LS McDermott I cut the FB, because I think Gray could play FB in game 4 if needed. The last spot is between, Schmidt, and either Osgood or Lockette. I think keeping Divens allows Dorsey and Ian to sit game 4.

Aug 17, 2013 at 10:22 PM

SofaKing
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:

If it was me, I would cut the following.

RB Harper
FB Schepler
WR Hawkins
WR Jacobs
OL Omameh
OL Tribue
OL Netter
NT Purcell
ILB Johnson
ILB Stupar
S Ventrone
S Thomas
S McBath
LS McDermott

Looks good to me, but if we cut all those O-lineman at once we might not have enough for the 4th game if someone gets hurt lol. That would be interesting. With the way they've played we might as well play with 4.

[ Edited by SofaKing on Aug 17, 2013 at 10:22 PM ]

Aug 17, 2013 at 10:34 PM

AB81Rules
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Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

If it was me, I would cut the following.

RB Harper
FB Schepler
WR Hawkins
WR Jacobs
OL Omameh
OL Tribue
OL Netter
NT Purcell
ILB Johnson
ILB Stupar
S Ventrone
S Thomas
S McBath
LS McDermott

Looks good to me, but if we cut all those O-lineman at once we might not have enough for the 4th game if someone gets hurt lol. That would be interesting. With the way they've played we might as well play with 4.

I rethought it, I would keep Netter, and cut Osgood. So we have an extra OL for SD game. Would be Wiggins, Bykowski at Tackle, Netter, Looney, and Snyder at OG, and Kilgore at C. Snyder could easily play C if need be.

Aug 18, 2013 at 12:09 AM

SanDiego49er
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The very first cut I would make is Omameh.....

Aug 18, 2013 at 1:35 AM

xcfan
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The very first cut I would make is Omameh.....

it kind of depresses me that baalke and coaches decided this stiff was worthy in the first place.

Aug 18, 2013 at 1:38 AM

swayze
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Originally posted by xcfan:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The very first cut I would make is Omameh.....

it kind of depresses me that baalke and coaches decided this stiff was worthy in the first place.

Thanks a lot Omameh

Aug 18, 2013 at 2:16 AM

English
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I know we are ok at ILB but Stupar did some nice stuff against KC. I would give him a little longer.

The others? Meh.

Aug 18, 2013 at 2:25 AM

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That's the thing some times we forget on that first cut they need enough guys to field a team for that last game and since the 4th game the starters don't really play they need a 2nd and 3rd string. So in the past I'm sure guys have stuck around to help field a team.

I would say the guys who have done the least or worst. Again might have to keep some of them to field a team.
RB Harper or Hampton, FB Schepler, WR Hawkins, OL Omameh, OL Tribue, ILB Johnson, S Ventrone, S McBath (man did he disappear), LS McDermott possibly WR Osgood (again 10 years 44 rec 749 yards 5tds, moore 7 years younger, better wr, can be st guy), DL Okoye (if it was up to me), etc.
Guys who should get a lot of time in game 4:
-Gray (and Celek), give these time at FB (HB) as well, throw some passes their way. get a good look at Gray to see if he can beat out celek
-Wilhoite/Moody seem to have proven themselves. either give them more experience or let stupar show if hes PS worthy.
-Kenny Wiggins, Joe Looney, Bykowski... Wiggins probably won't make roster. Looney/Bykowski need all the work he can get
-BJ Daniels at least 2 quarters if I was in charge. Give McCoy 1st, Daniels 2nd 3rd, Tolzien 4th (Guess depends on how they do in game 3)
- Eric Reid, I would let him play like 3 quarters to get him ready to start week 1 if that is the plan
- Give Cam Johnson like a half at least... maybe let him start, then Skuta rest of game (at worst Johnson PS again)
-Okoye (if not already cut), Purcell, Jerod-Eddie, Divens... see if any is worth keeping on roster as 7th guy if Carradine/Dial go to PUP
- If Patton is good to go give him 3 quarters at least imo. guy needs the game reps. Jenkins, Collie, Lockette, Hall as well. I would use those 5 most of the game if Moore is a lock. Need to get Patton ready. Need to give Collie, Hall, Lockette chance at team. Maybe Jacobs as well but not sure we should show him off too much if we want him on the PS.
-CBs, would like to see Morris, Cooper get a lot of time. Brock as well.... seems like we have 5 guys who are locks: brown,rogers,asomugha,cox,brock... will be interesting to see if we keep 6 and if we do is it Wright, Cooper or the long shot Morris.
-Test Spillman, Dahl, Thomas at SS see if any have future there
- Colin Schmidt (let lee rest)

[ Edited by Gore_21 on Aug 18, 2013 at 2:45 AM ]

Aug 18, 2013 at 2:53 AM

mayo49
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Cut them all.

Aug 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM

ModestoNiner33
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First cut needs to be Obama, I mean Omameh

Aug 18, 2013 at 5:44 AM

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Cjez
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Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
First cut needs to be Obama, I mean Omameh

u mean OMAHGERD

that dude is soooooooooooooooooo bad.

Aug 18, 2013 at 6:10 AM

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Originally posted by English:
I know we are ok at ILB but Stupar did some nice stuff against KC. I would give him a little longer.

The others? Meh.

Agree. Stupar played great, while Skuta's play dropped off. Those two should stick around and fight it out.

Aug 18, 2013 at 6:20 AM

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Gore_21
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Originally posted by strickac:
Agree. Stupar played great, while Skuta's play dropped off. Those two should stick around and fight it out.

Stupar's first game wasnt good but 2nd game was much better. Skuta is an OLB and Stupar is an ILB so they aren't competing against each other really. Seems like Wilhoite and Moody have 3 and 4 ILB spots locked up. Stupar is likely playing for a PS spot.

Aug 18, 2013 at 7:11 AM

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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I rethought it, I would keep Netter, and cut Osgood. So we have an extra OL for SD game. Would be Wiggins, Bykowski at Tackle, Netter, Looney, and Snyder at OG, and Kilgore at C. Snyder could easily play C if need be.

This brings your list to what I would think will happen! Osgood deserves a chance to catch on elsewhere and Netter is thought to be a pretty decent project for PS...if he has eligibility. So my philosophy would be to try and keep guys who may be PS players rather than those (particularly vets) who would be snatched up quickly by other teams, but have no chance to stick on the final roster.

[ Edited by dtg_9er on Aug 18, 2013 at 7:11 AM ]

Aug 18, 2013 at 7:15 AM

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I would think it would be good to make the decision on the back up QB before the 4th game. At this point in time, it's not clear that a guy like Tolzien would be an upgrade over what everyone else has for back ups. If you exposed Daniels, someone might take him and put them on their PS later.

Johnson and Stupar would definitely draw early interest from other teams, too.

I thought Bykowski was injured too?