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TEAM STATS COMPARISON 2011 & 2012, WHAT DO WE NEED TO IMPROVE ON IN 2013?

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This is great stuff man! +1 yd/rush and +1 yd/pass is HUGE
Nice post! Actually, we averaged about 29 points a game (up 5 points) the past 10 games including the post seaaon. Part of that was b/c we were in shoot-outs...Saints, Pats, Green Bay, Falcons, Ravens, etc. Part of that was b/c we "can." We went from a NL SF Giants team (great pitching, defense and timely hitting) to more of a St. Louis Cardinals team. We used to slowly bleed teams to death. Now we have the ability to stab them quickly. You can win championships with both styles! This new "style" of offense points-wise will put us in the top 5. On the flip side, with a more dynamic offense that can score quickly, it could mean our defense will take a step back.

So ideally, we need to balance it out. I'd love to see your stats on the defense the final 10 games (week 11 through the Superbowl) and then a 16 game projection. With more depth and an added focus on coverage and QB pressures, take whatever that average is and be a little better. That should be our expectations for both offense and defense.

I'd focus on the one stat that matters...points scored and points allowed. And the other which is the TO ratio. Fundamentally and schematically, we did a lot of things different in the secondary last year and our TO's went way down.

Ironically, the key to both offense and defense is the ability to start hot and get up on teams...then we can turn to a more pressure defense and ball-control offense in the second halves of games.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice post! Actually, we averaged about 29 points a game (up 5 points) the past 10 games including the post seaaon. Part of that was b/c we were in shoot-outs...Saints, Pats, Green Bay, Falcons, Ravens, etc. Part of that was b/c we "can." We went from a NL SF Giants team (great pitching, defense and timely hitting) to more of a St. Louis Cardinals team. We used to slowly bleed teams to death. Now we have the ability to stab them quickly. You can win championships with both styles! This new "style" of offense points-wise will put us in the top 5. On the flip side, with a more dynamic offense that can score quickly, it could mean our defense will take a step back.

So ideally, we need to balance it out. I'd love to see your stats on the defense the final 10 games (week 11 through the Superbowl) and then a 16 game projection. With more depth and an added focus on coverage and QB pressures, take whatever that average is and be a little better. That should be our expectations for both offense and defense.

I'd focus on the one stat that matters...points scored and points allowed. And the other which is the TO ratio. Fundamentally and schematically, we did a lot of things different in the secondary last year and our TO's went way down.

Ironically, the key to both offense and defense is the ability to start hot and get up on teams...then we can turn to a more pressure defense and ball-control offense in the second halves of games.

Agreed, Id love to see that breakdown. Will be interesting to look at the numbers 12 months from now to see how they have progressed. Going into year 3 with the QB of the future locked in, the players and the playbook should be functioning at full force. All those years of learning a different system each offseason is GONE GONE GONE!!!! Being able to build on the previous year is such a huge advantage.
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
Agreed, Id love to see that breakdown. Will be interesting to look at the numbers 12 months from now to see how they have progressed. Going into year 3 with the QB of the future locked in, the players and the playbook should be functioning at full force. All those years of learning a different system each offseason is GONE GONE GONE!!!! Being able to build on the previous year is such a huge advantage.

Absolutely! I think the shift in offensive styles starting week 11 on affected the defense just as much as the rise in points per game...meaning I think both the offense and defensive final numbers are off. I think our offense has the potential to be top 5 next year for PF and our defense will naturally decline d/t spending more time on the field, how teams have to attack us, playing catch-up, continual evolution of the passing game and teams we face, etc. So I'm expecting the defense to be closer to the bottom part of the top 10 in PA....around 10. ST is where I see a big difference and helping us to become a more complete team.

If we can maintain top 5 in both while being better on ST with a better TO ration, look out!
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM ]
Our offense will improve if the following issues are successfully addressed:
1. Kap has to improve on his touch passes and his awareness of his second and third options, as well as time management and adjustments at the line.
2. Kap has to improve his WR relationships. Boldin has now replaced Crabtree, so Kap needs at least one other WR option to balance out the options.
3. Kap needs to be able to develop a relationship with V. Davis to keep pressure off of Boldin and keep the defense honest.
4. Running game needs to be consistent and attacking. The running game also needs to used to develop screens and be a viable passing option for Kap.
5. McDonald needs to become an option to replace Delanie Walker. Consistent hands would be really really helpful.
6. Oline needs to continue to develop. Will be happy to see Looney, and or Kilgore as consistent backups and one of them be a realistic option for Goodwin.
7. Roman needs to develop a more consistent and more flexible game plan. He seems to have difficulty with the passing game and seems to feel more secure with the running game.
8. The defense would help out the offense by more consistent turnovers.
9. The special teams needs to give the offense better field position and Dawson needs to give us more consistent points when he is on the field.
How to improve...

Offense: Stop being cute. Stop with all the trickeration. We have the best o-line, start acting like it and plow people in the face

Defense: More diversity! More looks, more pre-snap movement. Oh, and fire Fangio!!!
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1. Red Zone TD rate.
2. Special Teams coverage teams.
3. Improve pass coverage from FS/SS.
Great Post! This may be an obvious question, but do our 2012 rush yards/attempt include Kap's rushes? If so, that number might be inflated a bit?
[ Edited by mattster03 on Jun 4, 2013 at 12:53 PM ]
Easy. Offense needs to cleanup on penalty yards and 3rd down conv.
Originally posted by Ninefan56:
Our offense will improve if the following issues are successfully addressed:
1. Kap has to improve on his touch passes and his awareness of his second and third options, as well as time management and adjustments at the line.
2. Kap has to improve his WR relationships. Boldin has now replaced Crabtree, so Kap needs at least one other WR option to balance out the options.
3. Kap needs to be able to develop a relationship with V. Davis to keep pressure off of Boldin and keep the defense honest.
4. Running game needs to be consistent and attacking. The running game also needs to used to develop screens and be a viable passing option for Kap.
5. McDonald needs to become an option to replace Delanie Walker. Consistent hands would be really really helpful.
6. Oline needs to continue to develop. Will be happy to see Looney, and or Kilgore as consistent backups and one of them be a realistic option for Goodwin.
7. Roman needs to develop a more consistent and more flexible game plan. He seems to have difficulty with the passing game and seems to feel more secure with the running game.
8. The defense would help out the offense by more consistent turnovers.
9. The special teams needs to give the offense better field position and Dawson needs to give us more consistent points when he is on the field.

Pretty Spot on brotha. Only thing i have to say is that im on the fence with number 7. Lets take the SB for example. Kaep and Co. helped lead us back and it seemed like the plays that they were calling were working. Actually very good at how we were able to come back. Even on the last round of series. I used to get soo pissed at Roman, not even being able to watch those final four downs. But now after soo much time, being able to break the plays down. We actually could of scored on two, had the right read been done, the Wr moved here instead of there, or Kaep went here instead of there, etc.

**I even said it at the end of the SB. That Harbs wanted to put the ball in Kaeps hands, and wasnt gonna have it any other way. Cuz if he would of scored, could u imagine the headlines.....Makes QB change and a genius for winning the SB when some thought he was nuts... or some headline like that......***

One thing i have realized with our offense. Harb's Roman, and co. seem very set in their ways. I mean there were soo many games all year, were at times it seemed like we were getting back too, "Oh come on, not that play again.", or "come on, just because u change the look, we all know who the ball is going too".
Not saying it's a weakness, because at times, the othere team does break. And didnt one time during the season when they questioned Roman's playcalling, he said it was more on the execution, not the plays being called.
So thats why i say im on the fence with 7. At times it seemed they (Roman and Co.) refused to bend or break. And on the other token, when it seemed the correct plays were called, the players didnt execute
[ Edited by Jersey9er on Jun 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM ]
We need to improve in the "win the Super Bowl" stat...
Best thread in a while, and this is an example of what this board is supposed to be! Hard data and reasonable speculation about how we can improve and where we might slide a bit. Bravo - and I agree with everything you said. This draft class will help immediately and in the future, but no reason why we shouldn't take another step forward this year, with really only Gore, J Smith, and Goodwin as potential drop-offs due to age. But with the work ethic and the guys we have behind all 3 of these guys, we are going to be awesome even if these guys do lose a little ability. Stay healthy and keep the turnovers down and we will become the first team in 40 years to win the SB the year after losing it. Let's go!
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