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Dec 18, 2015 at 4:38 AM
- joaosoarrs99
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He's doing fine against the run but he's struggling in coverage.
Dec 18, 2015 at 3:03 PM
- 4everFaithful
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Originally posted by Dsoto87:Originally posted by 4everFaithful:Im baffeled the he leads the league im solo tackles. Says a lot about the heart and toughness on this guy. Unreal. Howd he drop to the 3rd rd??
I remember he had character concerns but I'm not sure if there was anything else.
Crazy to think he had character concerns. Dude couldn't possibly have any better character lol
Dec 18, 2015 at 3:05 PM
- Cjez
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Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
He's doing fine against the run but he's struggling in coverage.
his lateral movement is at about 40% of what it was before the injury.
Dec 18, 2015 at 3:06 PM
- susweel
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So sad seeing him get juked by manzel.
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:25 PM
- ElephantHaley
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My current favorite player on the team Last 4 years but he is nowhere near the same before his injury. Hate to say it but might be time to move on from him because of the wrong reasons $$$. Dude is clearly not the same nor ever will be. Just a bad bad bad break.
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:27 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:what are you talking about, dude is second in the league with tackles
My current favorite player on the team Last 4 years but he is nowhere near the same before his injury. Hate to say it but might be time to move on from him because of the wrong reasons $$$. Dude is clearly not the same nor ever will be. Just a bad bad bad break.
unless RB/WR/TE's run to him to get tackled
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:30 PM
- ElephantHaley
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:what are you talking about, dude is second in the league with tackles
My current favorite player on the team Last 4 years but he is nowhere near the same before his injury. Hate to say it but might be time to move on from him because of the wrong reasons $$$. Dude is clearly not the same nor ever will be. Just a bad bad bad break.
unless RB/WR/TE's run to him to get tackled
This is where the numbers do lie. Sure he has a bunch load of tackles but he has also been juked and beat like never before and he had a hard time tackling Marshan Lynch the 1st game and that Rawls dude the 2nd game and he clearly cannot pass cover anymore. Its a sad site. Guy is a warrior but the knee has wrecked him.
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:33 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:how is tackles a lie stat ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:what are you talking about, dude is second in the league with tackles
My current favorite player on the team Last 4 years but he is nowhere near the same before his injury. Hate to say it but might be time to move on from him because of the wrong reasons $$$. Dude is clearly not the same nor ever will be. Just a bad bad bad break.
unless RB/WR/TE's run to him to get tackled
This is where the numbers do lie. Sure he has a bunch load of tackles but he has also been juked and beat like never before and he had a hard time tackling Marshan Lynch the 1st game and that Rawls dude the 2nd game and he clearly cannot pass cover anymore. Its a sad site. Guy is a warrior but the knee has wrecked him.
no one can stuff lynch the entire game and rawls is a pretty good
one team bow played against and now this guy is no good c'mon man
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:36 PM
- ElephantHaley
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
how is tackles a lie stat ?
no one can stuff lynch the entire game and rawls is a pretty good
one team bow played against and now this guy is no good c'mon man
Dude the defense is ranked close to dead last. Sure he's making tackles, but 8 yards down the road and he's getting beat bad underneath in the passing game. He is doing a good job as a spinning blitzer but clearly he isn't close to the same explosive Bowman he was from 2011-2013 where he was the Best LB in Football. That injury slowed him down something fierce.
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM
- brodiebluebanaszak
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:This is where the numbers do lie. Sure he has a bunch load of tackles but he has also been juked and beat like never before and he had a hard time tackling Marshan Lynch the 1st game and that Rawls dude the 2nd game and he clearly cannot pass cover anymore. Its a sad site. Guy is a warrior but the knee has wrecked him.
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:This is where the numbers do lie. Sure he has a bunch load of tackles but he has also been juked and beat like never before and he had a hard time tackling Marshan Lynch the 1st game and that Rawls dude the 2nd game and he clearly cannot pass cover anymore. Its a sad site. Guy is a warrior but the knee has wrecked him.
? you make no sense. he will be rehab for anothet 18 mo. i can wait.
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:40 PM
- ElephantHaley
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
This is where the numbers do lie. Sure he has a bunch load of tackles but he has also been juked and beat like never before and he had a hard time tackling Marshan Lynch the 1st game and that Rawls dude the 2nd game and he clearly cannot pass cover anymore. Its a sad site. Guy is a warrior but the knee has wrecked him.
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
This is where the numbers do lie. Sure he has a bunch load of tackles but he has also been juked and beat like never before and he had a hard time tackling Marshan Lynch the 1st game and that Rawls dude the 2nd game and he clearly cannot pass cover anymore. Its a sad site. Guy is a warrior but the knee has wrecked him.
? you make no sense. he will be rehab for anothet 18 mo. i can wait.
Yeah OK by then he''ll be 29 pushing 30. Face it man, he'll never be the same pre-injury. It was catastrophic what happened to his knee. The Guy has the Heart but not the legs. And he is expensive at this point.
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:58 PM
- GoldenJoe
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Got to see how he plays next year, usually takes a couple of seasons to really be able to tell how Bow is after that type of injury.
Dec 18, 2015 at 4:59 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:My current favorite player on the team Last 4 years but he is nowhere near the same before his injury. Hate to say it but might be time to move on from him because of the wrong reasons $$$. Dude is clearly not the same nor ever will be. Just a bad bad bad break.
What an absurd thing to say. He's still essentially rehabbing and you are definitively saying move on and he will never be the same?? Jesus this place never ceases to amaze me.
Dec 18, 2015 at 5:02 PM
- ElephantHaley
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
My current favorite player on the team Last 4 years but he is nowhere near the same before his injury. Hate to say it but might be time to move on from him because of the wrong reasons $$$. Dude is clearly not the same nor ever will be. Just a bad bad bad break.
What an absurd thing to say. He's still essentially rehabbing and you are definitively saying move on and he will never be the same?? Jesus this place never ceases to amaze me.
So i'm not entitled to my opinion? Absurd? Whats so absurd? Rehab?? His injury was 23 months ago and surgery was 22 Months ago. He will never be the same player is an opinion and a painful opinion because I love the dude and hope he comes back like King Kong but i'm not optomistic.
Dec 18, 2015 at 5:04 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Originally posted by ElephantHaley:My current favorite player on the team Last 4 years but he is nowhere near the same before his injury. Hate to say it but might be time to move on from him because of the wrong reasons $$$. Dude is clearly not the same nor ever will be. Just a bad bad bad break.
What an absurd thing to say. He's still essentially rehabbing and you are definitively saying move on and he will never be the same?? Jesus this place never ceases to amaze me.
So i'm not entitled to my opinion? Absurd? Whats so absurd? Rehab?? His injury was 23 months ago and surgery was 22 Months ago. He will never be the same player is an opinion and a painful opinion because I love the dude and hope he comes back like King Kong but i'm not optomistic.
Yes you are totally entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine...which is that your opinion is absurd. That's how it works