Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by jreff22:
From Manningham yes, from Crabs and Moss no. Are you going to say we didnt draft Jenkins to be a starter? If speed was the biggest problem last year we resolved that problem in the draft...but we have to use the weapon so we aren't back to where we started. Manningham is getting a lot of credit around here and I don't think he's going to be this stellar player for us. Not saying he is bad but some make him out to be this guaranteed lock that is untouchable...I don't see it. I can rattle off a lot of different WR's that I wanted in the draft, if they are playing and looking really good and Jenkins is on the bench I will be disappointed.
We did not draft him to be a starter this year, no. That is as plain as day to me. Manningham is a solid pro with big time experience. I am not saying that Jenkins won't rise above him on the depth chart eventually but when they signed Manningham they didn't do it to have him rot on the bench. It was a smart move to add a guy like Jenkins to solidify the depth now, and eventually have yourself a starter in a season or two. Jenkins is not going to produce like guys like Michael Floyd, who will be forced into the starting lineup immediately. This doesn't mean Jenkins can't eventually become the best receiver of last years draft class. In fact, I think watching guys like Crabtree, Moss and Manningham will be hugely beneficial to his career
Would we still sign both Moss and Manningham if we had Jenkins prior? We signed WR's because we needed them, there is no sure thing in the draft and Jenkins could've been gone before we picked. We were stacked at WR IMO then added another one in the 1st. If we felt the need to get this kid that bad I cant see Jim being content with no action for the kid. If the plan is to sit him all year and not use him I would've rather taken a ROG that was plug and play and not burn the pick. I wasn't high on the pick (think he was a reach with better talent on the board) but will support him until he gives a reason to assume bust. Being that, I want him playing so we can at least get a feel for what he can do.
We have a few scenarios to play with...1) everybody plays great and he sits for the whole year 2) we sit somebody and let the kid get some reps in 3) we sit him without letting him get reps, injuries happen and he is forced to take a major role prematurely. I keep bringing this up and nobody is giving a logical assessment except for "Manningham CANNOT SIT ON THE BENCH EVER"
we carry 5 WR's or we go heavy and carry 6
1 Moss
2 Crabs
3 Manningham
4 Ginn
5 Williams
6 Jenkins
If we cut a player it will be Williams and for arguments sake lets just say it happens to keep things less complicated (5 WR's on the final 53). Gamedays we
activate 4 WR's:
1 Moss
2 Crabs
3 Manningham
4 Ginn
The only logical place to have Jenkins play is in the "3rd" spot if we follow the normal trend of activating 4 guys with the 5th on the bench not dressed. Moss and Crabs will be the normal starters and Ginn is the ST ace....so all that leaves is Manninghams spot that can be tampered with. Love it or hate it if Moss comes to play it leaves Manningham in a position to be not dressed on some game days so Jenkins can get worked in. If we activate 5 then naturally all will play, unless we carry 6 WR's then Jenkins and Williams will fight for the last activation.
But again if we are only dressing 4 WR's and if Moss is ball'n, Manningham is the weak link for Jenkins to exploit. Only way this is put to bed is if Manningham looks amazing or if Jenkins looks like a bust.
