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"Is Willis the most productive draft pick ever?"
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Apr 25, 2012 at 6:07 AM
- Wubbie
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The math involved in figuring out a player's value as a draft pick sucks, but cool that Patrick Willis gets kudos.
Apr 25, 2012 at 6:57 AM
- JimA49ers
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Originally posted by captveg:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7849206/how-tell-which-draft-picks-truly-valuable
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Best: Patrick Willis (93.6 points above expected return)
Worst: Andy Katzenmoyer (-50.2 points)
"Is Willis the most productive draft pick ever? He just finished up his fifth season in the league, and during those five years, he's missed a total of four games while making the Pro Bowl and All-Pro teams in each season. No other player over this time frame was able to match that accomplishment, and the last player we were able to find who matched that mark was Lawrence Taylor, who made the Pro Bowl team for the first 10 seasons of his career and got onto the All-Pro team for eight of those years. Sure, middle linebacker might not be the most important position on the field, but what more could the Niners ask for from their defensive captain? Katzenmoyer, on the other hand, was a legend at Ohio State, but his NFL career was brief; after suffering a neck injury during his rookie season, Katzenmoyer struggled to stay healthy and left Patriots training camp after breakfast one morning in 2001, never to return. He only played 24 games at the professional level, leaving the game just months before the Patriots won their first Super Bowl."
Let's just hope that is the ONLY comparison of Willis and Taylor. Today, Taylor is a broke has-been, and often arrested. Most of his fans are in better financial shape than he is.
Apr 25, 2012 at 7:30 AM
- ads_2006
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Jerry Rice and Joe Montana say lulz
Apr 25, 2012 at 7:37 AM
- Jcool
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Hmmm maybe the most productive defensive player....
Apr 25, 2012 at 9:23 AM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by Wubbie:Pretty much.
The math involved in figuring out a player's value as a draft pick sucks, but cool that Patrick Willis gets kudos.
Apr 25, 2012 at 9:25 AM
- PA49ersfan
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Originally posted by ads_2006:Yes agreed. I love Willis, but No!
Jerry Rice and Joe Montana say lulz
Apr 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM
- 49erstrandedinclev
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Yeah the math does stink how can you say Patrick Willis has a higher value than what Jerry Rice did makes no sense. At Least it was a 49er on top fir once.
Apr 25, 2012 at 11:04 AM
- Marvin49
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Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by captveg:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7849206/how-tell-which-draft-picks-truly-valuable
Linebackers
Best: Patrick Willis (93.6 points above expected return)
Worst: Andy Katzenmoyer (-50.2 points)
"Is Willis the most productive draft pick ever? He just finished up his fifth season in the league, and during those five years, he's missed a total of four games while making the Pro Bowl and All-Pro teams in each season. No other player over this time frame was able to match that accomplishment, and the last player we were able to find who matched that mark was Lawrence Taylor, who made the Pro Bowl team for the first 10 seasons of his career and got onto the All-Pro team for eight of those years. Sure, middle linebacker might not be the most important position on the field, but what more could the Niners ask for from their defensive captain? Katzenmoyer, on the other hand, was a legend at Ohio State, but his NFL career was brief; after suffering a neck injury during his rookie season, Katzenmoyer struggled to stay healthy and left Patriots training camp after breakfast one morning in 2001, never to return. He only played 24 games at the professional level, leaving the game just months before the Patriots won their first Super Bowl."
Let's just hope that is the ONLY comparison of Willis and Taylor. Today, Taylor is a broke has-been, and often arrested. Most of his fans are in better financial shape than he is.
Lawrence ws also a habitual Cocaine abuser who used while he played. Willis thus far has been a model citizen and is one of the most humble athletes you will ever meet.
Apr 25, 2012 at 11:40 AM
- captveg
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The "value" in this article is rating a player's first five years in the league only.
Apr 25, 2012 at 12:12 PM
- NickSh49
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I don't know how productive he has been... does he have kids now or...?
Apr 25, 2012 at 12:34 PM
- Young2Rice
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He's been our best first round pick since Bryant Young.
Apr 25, 2012 at 2:38 PM
- BayArea
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Would anybody trade Willis for Aaron Rodgers straight up?
Apr 25, 2012 at 2:40 PM
- TheGoldStandard
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No, that would be Tom Brady,