walker is one of the best #2 TE in nfl
keep him no need to trade him
if we get fleener just run with the 3 TE set and well have 3 pass catching TE
but thats what i dont get we still lack a #1 WR yet we want to get a #2 TE instead
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Hypothetical, if the Niners draft Fleener at #30, would Delanie Walker have any trade valu
Feb 28, 2012 at 6:58 PM
- 49ersalldaway126
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Feb 28, 2012 at 6:59 PM
- ninertico
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We would have the best TE threesome in the NFL and you want to dissolve that for a mere 4th or 5th... um, K.
Feb 28, 2012 at 7:07 PM
- travisdecpn
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Walker is our swiss army knife on offense, and you guys want to trade him away for a 4th or 5th? Come on...
Feb 28, 2012 at 7:08 PM
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Who says we even need any WRs? Lets go Fleener in the 1st, Orson Charles in the 2nd, Ladarius Green in the 3rd, and Michael Egnew in the 4th. 5 TE sets FTW!!!
[ Edited by Travisty13 on Feb 28, 2012 at 7:09 PM ]
Feb 28, 2012 at 7:10 PM
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Im sure St.Louis would love to add D-Love or even Arizona... I wouldnt say the most UNDERRATED, but he is defintely versitile and valuable to have.. Not only a ST player, but is a mismatch as a TE and can even play well as a receiver.. Keep both Vernon and DLove and add Fleener... 3 tight ends that are athletic and can all play receiver as well as hold it down in the trenches
Feb 28, 2012 at 7:57 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
the most underrated?? hell no
LOL.......#$$$!!!
People are just trying to get me riled up again, huh?
Haha as soon as I saw that I knew you would be like
Feb 28, 2012 at 8:01 PM
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Originally posted by travisdecpn:
Walker is our swiss army knife on offense, and you guys want to trade him away for a 4th or 5th? Come on...
Read the OP, it is hypothetical, and you would save 1.9 million and you are getting another player via the draft pick. This is hypothetically assuming D love will not be a niner in 2013 because you have VD and Fleener on the roster, and D love would want a big pay day that would not happen.
We are getting mixed messages. It seems like the majority of people think D love has zero trade value, if this is the case, he is not the best 2nd TE in the NFL.
Feb 28, 2012 at 8:09 PM
- amandeep49ers
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Move walker back to his original WR position.
Feb 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM
- 9erguy
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Originally posted by travisdecpn:Walker is our swiss army knife on offense, and you guys want to trade him away for a 4th or 5th? Come on...
Feb 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM
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Originally posted by Travisty13:Who says we even need any WRs? Lets go Fleener in the 1st, Orson Charles in the 2nd, Ladarius Green in the 3rd, and Michael Egnew in the 4th. 5 TE sets FTW!!!
Back to back to back Super Bowls
Feb 28, 2012 at 10:36 PM
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You don't trade Delanie.
If we draft Fleener at #30, it is because we got a good WR (Meachem, Garcon, etc) as FA and somebody jaw dropping isn't there.
VD came on at the end of the year and was THE monster in the playoffs. By his own admission, he didn't really get the offense until the end.
Walker was so clutch all year, as a "wham" blocker, special teams demon, and TE. That catch against DET was epic.
Fleener knows the offense. To draft him would take what the Pats did (Aaron / Gronk) and take it up a notch. Each brings something different. Fleener would be the big (6'6") redzone target. Vernon with his jump seam route.
Dare I say it but we'd be the first team to have a Slot TE (D-Love) instead of a Slot Wr. Since Delanie was a WR, it is not too much of a stretch.
I say do it.
If we draft Fleener at #30, it is because we got a good WR (Meachem, Garcon, etc) as FA and somebody jaw dropping isn't there.
VD came on at the end of the year and was THE monster in the playoffs. By his own admission, he didn't really get the offense until the end.
Walker was so clutch all year, as a "wham" blocker, special teams demon, and TE. That catch against DET was epic.
Fleener knows the offense. To draft him would take what the Pats did (Aaron / Gronk) and take it up a notch. Each brings something different. Fleener would be the big (6'6") redzone target. Vernon with his jump seam route.
Dare I say it but we'd be the first team to have a Slot TE (D-Love) instead of a Slot Wr. Since Delanie was a WR, it is not too much of a stretch.
I say do it.
Feb 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM
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I still think Delanie could line up as a WR some times.
Crabs
Walker
Williams
Meachem
Fleener
VD
Crabs
Walker
Williams
Meachem
Fleener
VD
Feb 28, 2012 at 11:20 PM
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3 and 4 TE's may work in college, but I'm not sure about the NFL. The Patriots do use multiple tight ends but they also have welker to balance out there approach, since brings that element of speed and shiftiness. Too many TE's would make the offense pretty slow and lumbering. VD may have straight line speed, but he can't cut or shift as quick as a receiver. I can't think of any TE's who can.
Feb 28, 2012 at 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by wysiwyg:
You don't trade Delanie.
If we draft Fleener at #30, it is because we got a good WR (Meachem, Garcon, etc) as FA and somebody jaw dropping isn't there.
VD came on at the end of the year and was THE monster in the playoffs. By his own admission, he didn't really get the offense until the end.
Walker was so clutch all year, as a "wham" blocker, special teams demon, and TE. That catch against DET was epic.
Fleener knows the offense. To draft him would take what the Pats did (Aaron / Gronk) and take it up a notch. Each brings something different. Fleener would be the big (6'6") redzone target. Vernon with his jump seam route.
Dare I say it but we'd be the first team to have a Slot TE (D-Love) instead of a Slot Wr. Since Delanie was a WR, it is not too much of a stretch.
I say do it.
That is what I've been thinking ever since Harbaugh joined. I know he was big into TEs and ours are extremely talented. Go 3 TE, all capable receivers, with Gore in the backfield. What are we gonna do? The D either goes big and gets burnt by the TEs or stay base and get steamrolled. The possibilities are endless. I'm excited for next year.
Feb 28, 2012 at 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Youngb:Originally posted by wysiwyg:You don't trade Delanie.
If we draft Fleener at #30, it is because we got a good WR (Meachem, Garcon, etc) as FA and somebody jaw dropping isn't there.
VD came on at the end of the year and was THE monster in the playoffs. By his own admission, he didn't really get the offense until the end.
Walker was so clutch all year, as a "wham" blocker, special teams demon, and TE. That catch against DET was epic.
Fleener knows the offense. To draft him would take what the Pats did (Aaron / Gronk) and take it up a notch. Each brings something different. Fleener would be the big (6'6") redzone target. Vernon with his jump seam route.
Dare I say it but we'd be the first team to have a Slot TE (D-Love) instead of a Slot Wr. Since Delanie was a WR, it is not too much of a stretch.
I say do it.
That is what I've been thinking ever since Harbaugh joined. I know he was big into TEs and ours are extremely talented. Go 3 TE, all capable receivers, with Gore in the backfield. What are we gonna do? The D either goes big and gets burnt by the TEs or stay base and get steamrolled. The possibilities are endless. I'm excited for next year.
Its not that easy. Defense would double Vernon, cover Fleener with a Safety which leaves Delanie matched up with a CB and the defense can stay in base.
Delanie has never had even an aberage year and i dont think he can beat NFL DBs or he would have been drafted as a WR. All he really can do is that short slant acros the field and an occasional FB wheel type of route. I was really high on Delanie in he past but dude is not tall enough to catch jump balls over backers and DB and hes not fast enough to birn DBs. His routes and success highly depend on Vernon or another player clearing out, which isnt very difficult to replace at all.