Is our pass defense really as bad as people say or...

Originally posted by OtisDriftwood:
The only reason our pass defense (yardage) doesnt look as good as our run defense was the 400 yards plus we gave up to philly. Other then that we're probably the most solid defense in the nfl.

Two games skew the numbers a bit. We gave up 833 yards through the air combined against Dallas and Philly. In the other five games we gave up 958 yards combined.

Originally posted by spraked:
Is our lackluster numbers a product of our great run defense. When i think about it i see other coaches say forget the run just pass. I believe this accounts for why on paper our pass defense dose not look so good. This season there have been 277 pass attempts against us while only 148 running attempts(espn stats). When the other team only passes of course your passing defensive stats are not going to look has good.

We have only had 10 passing touchdowns against us and have had 9 int. To me if we judge a QB on his td to int ratio it makes sense to judge the defense on the same principle.

I believe our pass defense is a lot better then everyone thinks....

One thing is that we have been leading right many of our games in the second half, forcing teams to open up their passing attack a little bit more, but I think you hit the nail on the button, when you talked about our run defense. When teams cannot run on you they have but only one choice left. Truthfully I hate stats as they are a misleading story. Our secondary has made plays when they needed too. Detriot and Cleveland come to mind as recent games when they held their position when called upon.

An excellent pass rush really helps the Dbacks. Our secondary does not play to the level of the front 7 but are still improving every week. They are MUCH better than the last 5-6 seasons. Next season there will be quality FA who will want to play here as well as Baalke/JH draft selections.

I think you kind of hit it on the head. If the team cant run against you they are going to pass against you. Also when you are ahead in the game the other team starts passing more. Other indicators are, when your ahead late in the game you tend to give up short passes thus more completions and added yardage. The niners are not as bad as they appear in stats. Once again the only stat that is relavent is how many wins and how many losses.

Originally posted by overthemiddle:
I think you kind of hit it on the head. If the team cant run against you they are going to pass against you. Also when you are ahead in the game the other team starts passing more. Other indicators are, when your ahead late in the game you tend to give up short passes thus more completions and added yardage. The niners are not as bad as they appear in stats. Once again the only stat that is relavent is how many wins and how many losses.

Exactly right, good post.

Our pass defense is good. Not going to say great just yet, not going to say average or bad though. I'm going to say good.

It is just our Seven Samurai in the front are one of the best in the league, so by comparison the DBs get outshined, and teams have to throw, throw, throw against us. Because obviously they cannot run.

i think with culliver playing more it will only improve and it's not as bad as people say.

This will be a great test for the pass defense. The 49ers have given up 27, 19, 23 points against top ten passing offenses in Dallas/Detroit/Philly.. The Giants are another top 10 passing offense and maybe the best we've faced so far especially with Hakeem Nicks. I think the danger in the playoffs is that if we face a top 5 offense (Packers, Saints, Patriots) they may be able to put of 25-30+ points on us and we may be vulnerable.

Anyways, hopefully we can keep the Giants to less than 20 points with a good showing from the pass defense and continue to put up the same amount of points on offense that we have been all season to get another solid win.

The DBs are to the D as the OLine is to the offense. Both groups have made great strides throughout the year and they are usually the slowest to jell on any team. Now they will be tested by the long ball and it will be great to see how they measure up.

The overall speed of the LBs really help the DBs by closing off the short stuff and even being able to stick with the TEs down the field.

The DBs have been very effective in keeping the opponents from completing long balls but have they faced a passer of Mannings ability? Romo is streaky good too and he burned the 9ers but this is a different team in week ten.

Well, they have to Pass it if they can't Run it.. Its okay, as long as Points Per Game Allowed are below 25... We will always have a chance to win...

Great play by the Defense.. The Pass Defense will get better, second half of the season we will see how much better.. We are already seeing more plays on the ball when its in the air..

Great start to the season, THANK YOU NINERS !!!

Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
Statistically, the niners are top ten pass defense when it comes to pass yards given up per play. When a team puts up the rock over 40 times a game, then of course the numbers will inflate.

A lot of passes leads to turnovers. So let 'em fly and we'll pick 'em off.

nah I think our pass D is much better now especially when compared to last year. This year our secondary is better in coverage and also we put pressure on the QB, having a pass rush has really done wonders for the niners defense. Our secondary may still be a weakness but I think our pass rush with Justin,Aldon,RayMac and even Bowman and Willis getting more involved with the pass rush has substantially improved. I wanna see how we do against a QB like Eli because I think our pass D is better but I'm not sure how much better which is why I'm eager to watch this game.

It's not nearly as bad as people think. Both media pundits and WZers. Weren't Whitner and Goldson both out at the beginning of the year? That's when we sucked like vs. Dallas. Giving up 80 yard bombs. Honestly if we played over now I think we may win. The safetys were huge liabilities at the beginning of the year. Now it's pretty solid. I don't see too many huge plays against us. We are awesome on run D. But we are actually pretty good now on pass D also. The emergence of Aldon Smith + Whitner and Goldson back has made a difference. I don't get where people think we are terrible at pass D. We are not that bad.

I think it's similar to the steelers the past few years, teams cant run and have no choice but to pass on us, which will lead to more passing yards given up. Only difference is their offense has been a little more consistent than ours, keeping the defense off the field, which is why they're always ranked top 3 in defense(yards allowed) and we're 12th or whatever

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not nearly as bad as people think. Both media pundits and WZers. Weren't Whitner and Goldson both out at the beginning of the year? That's when we sucked like vs. Dallas. Giving up 80 yard bombs. Honestly if we played over now I think we may win. The safetys were huge liabilities at the beginning of the year. Now it's pretty solid. I don't see too many huge plays against us. We are awesome on run D. But we are actually pretty good now on pass D also. The emergence of Aldon Smith + Whitner and Goldson back has made a difference. I don't get where people think we are terrible at pass D. We are not that bad.

Exactly, with exception to the Cribbs TD late in the Cleveland game, Dallas was the last time we actually gave up a big play. We may give up a lot of pass yards, but for the most part it's because 1) teams are playing us from behind and are forced to pass more often 2)NO ONE can run on us 3) We like to injure opposing RB's


Yards mean jack s**t, TD's are what matters as we saw in the Philly game when Vick lit us up and STILL lost.