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Originally posted by Joecool:
I have a feeling that their defensive philosophy, which is a lot of movement up front and banking on Troy P. to bail that movement out will fall right into Jim Harbaugh's hands. We have a coach who appears that he can expose ANY defense as long as he has a solid run-game.

They are ranked 19 in allowing 4.4 yards per carry.
They are ranked #2 in pass defense with DET being #1.
They are ranked #9 in sacks. We are ranked #7. We have played DET #3, PHI #6, and DAL #7 (tied with us). We will play WAS #5.

They are ranked #13 in yards per carry at 4.4
They are ranked #6 in average yards per pass.


I am only worried about our pass defense not getting burned by B. Roeth. Pittsburgh is over rated. Let's take a look at who they played to get these stats.

Lost to BAL 35-7
Beat SEA 24-0
Beat IND 23-20
Lost to HOU 17-10
Beat TEN 38-17
Beat JAX 17-13
Beat ARI 32-20
Beat NE 25-17

The've only beat one "real" team. Their next 4 games will really show us what they are made of. So far, besides the NE win, I'm not impressed.

PIT next 4 games vs BAL, CIN, KC, CIN.
CLE is 2nd in pass defense and the Steelers are 1st Honestly i think sports broadcasters have a job to do and thats represent the NFL and since Godell and company bent and twinkd a lot of the rules the last few years to increase scoring I think that's why we see a lot of passing yrds. So my theory is that the 49ers are doing the opposite to win by playing balanced football making them the best overall team in the game today, this makes it very hard for ESPN and NFL Network to back us since we aren't playing by the NFL's pass happy, score more, less defensive approach
[ Edited by Natewillis2252 on Nov 2, 2011 at 11:03 AM ]
Here is a perfect example of the "no-respect" card in play:

Brian Billick has ranked the Niners #3 in his weekly Power Rankings behind the Steelers. They have two losses, the Niners only one.

Here is what he posts in his Niners review:

The 49ers are getting help from a very favorable schedule, but that is not their fault — they just line up against whoever is put in front of them. Nobody in the NFC West is capable of beating them, but this week they have to travel East again.

Still a non-believer even though they have won three on the road already. I'm lovin' it.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Here is a perfect example of the "no-respect" card in play:

Brian Billick has ranked the Niners #3 in his weekly Power Rankings behind the Steelers. They have two losses, the Niners only one.

Here is what he posts in his Niners review:

The 49ers are getting help from a very favorable schedule, but that is not their fault — they just line up against whoever is put in front of them. Nobody in the NFC West is capable of beating them, but this week they have to travel East again.

Still a non-believer even though they have won three on the road already. I'm lovin' it.

Thats just an example of bad journalism, i mean seriously! why would he bring up the fact that "Nobody in the West is capable of beating us" when we have played ONE division game so far this year!? And then completely ignoring the fact that we have already went East this year and won those games its just amazing.
Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Here is a perfect example of the "no-respect" card in play:

Brian Billick has ranked the Niners #3 in his weekly Power Rankings behind the Steelers. They have two losses, the Niners only one.

Here is what he posts in his Niners review:

The 49ers are getting help from a very favorable schedule, but that is not their fault — they just line up against whoever is put in front of them. Nobody in the NFC West is capable of beating them, but this week they have to travel East again.

Still a non-believer even though they have won three on the road already. I'm lovin' it.

Thats just an example of bad journalism, i mean seriously! why would he bring up the fact that "Nobody in the West is capable of beating us" when we have played ONE division game so far this year!? And then completely ignoring the fact that we have already went East this year and won those games its just amazing.

And that PIT has only beaten ONE team above 0.500. This is why most of these guys end up being wrong by the end of the year and they just say, "Who would have thought" but they are obviously not working hard to do a good job.
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No one in the west is capable of beating us and the rams just beat the saints , so I guess he thinks the saints can't beat us either.
Let the boys play the games, at the end of the day we shall see!
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Here is a perfect example of the "no-respect" card in play:

Brian Billick has ranked the Niners #3 in his weekly Power Rankings behind the Steelers. They have two losses, the Niners only one.

Here is what he posts in his Niners review:

The 49ers are getting help from a very favorable schedule, but that is not their fault — they just line up against whoever is put in front of them. Nobody in the NFC West is capable of beating them, but this week they have to travel East again.

Still a non-believer even though they have won three on the road already. I'm lovin' it.

Thats just an example of bad journalism, i mean seriously! why would he bring up the fact that "Nobody in the West is capable of beating us" when we have played ONE division game so far this year!? And then completely ignoring the fact that we have already went East this year and won those games its just amazing.

And that PIT has only beaten ONE team above 0.500. This is why most of these guys end up being wrong by the end of the year and they just say, "Who would have thought" but they are obviously not working hard to do a good job.

Good call, Joe. This is going to be an interesting couple of weeks with one "tough" road game and one legitimately tough home game against the Giants.
Originally posted by 8008:
Best part is getting playoff tie breakers against detroit, philly, tampa.. and hope to be soon, giants..

I doubt dallas will be in the mix down the road, so that loss shouldn't sting too bad later on

The tie breaker against Detroit and Tampa is almost useless. The against Philly is almost useless.

Why? Because the Niners will be a division winner and all the teams you have listed above will probably only make the playoffs as Wild Cards. No matter what, the Niners would still get home field.

If they had beaten the Packers or the Saints, then we'd be talkin'. The Giants game could be a big one.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I think we are still under the radar. We are forcing our #2 ranking due to our record but are not getting the respect of a #2 ranked team. It just kills me that none of these guys want to give credit to THE most balanced all around team from top to bottom in the NFC.

Seriously, The teams they love only have a high powered passing offense and that's it.

We just don't look sexy in their eyes i guess...fine with me
Absolutely, espn and nflnet will talk more about why Vick or Brady or Big Ben LOST than about why Alex WON. This won't change either, even into the playoffs.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Seriously, The teams they love only have a high powered passing offense and that's it.

We just don't look sexy in their eyes i guess...fine with me

I like it. And I like the fact that we have been beating up on the media darling teams all year long. I can get used to the 49ers being bullies (yet still playing clean) on the football field. Although we will probably be somewhere between 12-4 and 15-1, I'd say it's more important for us to beat the Redskins (just because they are an east coast team), the Giants, Steelers, and Ravens than it is to sweep the division. It would be even greater if we can make another "statement" win, similar to how we did Detroit and Tampa.
Originally posted by Joecool:
I think we are still under the radar. We are forcing our #2 ranking due to our record but are not getting the respect of a #2 ranked team. It just kills me that none of these guys want to give credit to THE most balanced all around team from top to bottom in the NFC.

I was paying particularly close attention to NFL Network around 8 or 9 last night, and the biggest thing that kept running again and again and AGAIN was the Rivers fumble.against KC. It was the number one story.

But there was at least one guy who was talking up the Niners. Called them the best team in the NFC -- above the Packers -- and possibly the best team in the NFL. That exchange lasted about two minutes.

Then him and another guy spent the next 15 minutes on how great the Eaglets had suddenly become because of their ONE win over Dallas.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by 8008:
Best part is getting playoff tie breakers against detroit, philly, tampa.. and hope to be soon, giants..

I doubt dallas will be in the mix down the road, so that loss shouldn't sting too bad later on

The tie breaker against Detroit and Tampa is almost useless. The against Philly is almost useless.

Why? Because the Niners will be a division winner and all the teams you have listed above will probably only make the playoffs as Wild Cards. No matter what, the Niners would still get home field.

If they had beaten the Packers or the Saints, then we'd be talkin'. The Giants game could be a big one.

Not if the tiebreaker comes down to best record against NFC opponents
Originally posted by IWasWrongRubber:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I think we are still under the radar. We are forcing our #2 ranking due to our record but are not getting the respect of a #2 ranked team. It just kills me that none of these guys want to give credit to THE most balanced all around team from top to bottom in the NFC.

I was paying particularly close attention to NFL Network around 8 or 9 last night, and the biggest thing that kept running again and again and AGAIN was the Rivers fumble.against KC. It was the number one story.

But there was at least one guy who was talking up the Niners. Called them the best team in the NFC -- above the Packers -- and possibly the best team in the NFL. That exchange lasted about two minutes.

Then him and another guy spent the next 15 minutes on how great the Eaglets had suddenly become because of their ONE win over Dallas.

Originally posted by Snider8706:
Originally posted by Chico:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I think we are still under the radar. We are forcing our #2 ranking due to our record but are not getting the respect of a #2 ranked team. It just kills me that none of these guys want to give credit to THE most balanced all around team from top to bottom in the NFC.

Everyone is looking at our poor offense but the never mention the tough defenses we have played. Cincy, Dallas, Cleveland, Detroit on the road... we still have to play Pittsburgh, Baltimore and even Washington has a highly ranked defense.

If the Fudge Packers played any of these teams, their offense won't look so potent



Our offense is weak in YPG but we're 1st in points per yard on offense. They are scoring points without getting a lot of yards.

We are also 6th in scoring after 7 games. We have scored more points than the Eagles, the Ravens, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, NYG, NYJ, the Bengals....all teams the media currently loves.

We score 6 points a game less than the Packers on average.
I think there are an increasing amount of stories on us right now. I think the radar days are over. I like that people don't "believe" in us right now. This is good. This is the way it goes. Hopefully the 80s have come full circle. 80's fashion is back. 80's musical styles are back. Might as well bring back the 80's niners.
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