49ers O-Line vs. Rob Ryan's Defense

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Time for Harbaugh to dial up some Mike Martz 7 step drops. It's our only chance to have success.

That's exactly what Ware wants. Quick passes would be the best bet, especially with the WCO.

Yes, some quick hits--slants or even the old Brent Jones route next to the middle LB with the QB throwing to the away shoulder. Can't remember what they called it but they used it against very aggressive Ds. Then when they get tired of that the TE goes down the middle, already a favorite of VD and Smith.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Time for Harbaugh to dial up some Mike Martz 7 step drops. It's our only chance to have success.

That's exactly what Ware wants. Quick passes would be the best bet, especially with the WCO.

As long as Staley and Davis are healthy, I'm not worried about it.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Time for Harbaugh to dial up some Mike Martz 7 step drops. It's our only chance to have success.

That's exactly what Ware wants. Quick passes would be the best bet, especially with the WCO.

As long as Staley and Davis are healthy, I'm not worried about it.

(reaches in pocket, pulls out sarcasm meter)

My sarcasm meter is off the charts now, bells and whistles going off.

Wasn't Rob Ryan Oakland's DC when we beat them?

The role of the TEs is critical against a team that blitzes a lot. They must be able to not only chip the blitzer but immediately get into the open space the blitzer just emptied. This part worries me because Vernon Davis has never mastered that ability like Brent Jones and even Eric Johnson. However, if he makes the correct reads, he will immediately be one-on-one with the safety...and that is a good thing.

Also, the WRs must be able to make the correct reads as well. Smith will have a very limited amount of time so WRs must adjust their routes as well to find the open spots. Slants should be open but Ryan will disguise the blitzes and drop people into short zones to take away the quick passes.

Finally, when they blitz, they will leave their corners one-on-one with someone on the outside. That should allow some deep routes. If the line can give Smith time to get the deep ball out, there should be some opportunities there as well.

Ryan's defense gambles a bit but it is also very sound. He is not the mad bomber his father was nor is he as emotional as Rex. I'm certain Harbaugh has not overlooked him and will use whatever stuff he has been able to get the team confident in to counter Ryan.

The Cowboys certainly appear to have the upper hand in this one but the injuries to their secondary should give the 49ers some chances. The 49ers will have to win the turnover battle in this one. Dallas will likely force at least one which means the 49ers should have at least three in order to have a chance to win.

Nicely written dj43! Do you recall the name of the play where the TE would chip and then take about two or three steps down and then one step toward the MLB against the blitz? It's driving me crazy! Wasn't a slant...almost a very short hook. That's what VD has to master. Smith looked for him a number of times last year but he would never turn around early enough...would always continue his route, letting Smith fend for himself.

Damn I hope Braylon and Vernon can have some big days for us. They really need to get open and beat this secondary for us to have any kind of chance.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Nicely written dj43! Do you recall the name of the play where the TE would chip and then take about two or three steps down and then one step toward the MLB against the blitz? It's driving me crazy! Wasn't a slant...almost a very short hook. That's what VD has to master. Smith looked for him a number of times last year but he would never turn around early enough...would always continue his route, letting Smith fend for himself.

I wanna say it was called a "pop" pass?

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Time for Harbaugh to dial up some Mike Martz 7 step drops. It's our only chance to have success.

Three and five step drops. Seven step drops will get a qb killed.

Originally posted by 76Razor:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Nicely written dj43! Do you recall the name of the play where the TE would chip and then take about two or three steps down and then one step toward the MLB against the blitz? It's driving me crazy! Wasn't a slant...almost a very short hook. That's what VD has to master. Smith looked for him a number of times last year but he would never turn around early enough...would always continue his route, letting Smith fend for himself.

I wanna say it was called a "pop" pass?

TE curl, hitch, and outs all work in that scenario, so does a skinny post to the te.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Time for Harbaugh to dial up some Mike Martz 7 step drops. It's our only chance to have success.

Three and five step drops. Seven step drops will get a qb killed.

It works in Madden....

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Time for Harbaugh to dial up some Mike Martz 7 step drops. It's our only chance to have success.

Three and five step drops. Seven step drops will get a qb killed.

It works in Madden....

touche

Staley vs Ware scares me. Hope Staley brought his hard hat. Hope they try some misdirection or counter runs. I think we are gonna see some vanilla offense til they are sure the o line can hold up. At that point they need to attack their secondary. It is their weakness and they need to exploit it.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Staley vs Ware scares me. Hope Staley brought his hard hat. Hope they try some misdirection or counter runs. I think we are gonna see some vanilla offense til they are sure the o line can hold up. At that point they need to attack their secondary. It is their weakness and they need to exploit it.

I think we are going to help the Tackles with some TE help

The problem is that we don't throw the ball down the field, except to Vernon about three times a game. Unless we begin to go vertical, we are going to need the defense and special teams to score 20+ points per week, like they did last week. And, that simply is not going to happen very often.