Revenge of the Nerds -- QB Edition | Page 2

wysiwyg · 2011-09-08T21:41:08-07:00

What do all 3 of our QBs have in common (besides the obvious) High Wonderlic scores Alex -- 40 Tolzien -- 38 Kaepernick -- 37 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderlic_Test Of course, it don't mean squat when the bullets are flying but it is an interesting tidbit and, IMHO, shows that Harbs is looking for cerebral QBs. All three are athletic. Tolzien didn't have the greatest 40 time but tied for second in the 20 yard shuttle. http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2011/nfl-combine-results.cfm?sort=shuttle20&pos=QB It would seem that a QB running around in the pocket would need to run only about 20 yards while dodging DL, LBs, etc. Tolzien's 3 cone tied for 3rd (that would also seem to be a better measure for a QB) http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2011/nfl-combine-results.cfm?sort=threecone&pos=QB Plutonium Grade Raw Material? Time will tell

Sep 9, 2011 at 6:29 AM

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Bluefalcon61
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Cool to know that we have three smart rookie quarterbacks.

One of them will pan out.

Sep 9, 2011 at 9:01 AM

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prguinness
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Nice to watch the game last night and be further reminded of the mistakes of past drafts, oh yeah, I get to watch that mistake against Seattle this weekend, cant we sign Garrard already or just not play smith? sigh another season of inept QB ahead

Sep 9, 2011 at 9:04 AM

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Memphis9er
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Originally posted by prguinness:
Nice to watch the game last night and be further reminded of the mistakes of past drafts, oh yeah, I get to watch that mistake against Seattle this weekend, cant we sign Garrard already or just not play smith? sigh another season of inept QB ahead

Harbaugh has who he wanted, get over it. Like it or not whining about the past is pointless.

Sep 9, 2011 at 9:47 AM

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Steve Young is a smart guy...and he played some pretty good football.

Sep 9, 2011 at 9:50 AM

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Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Steve Young is a smart guy...and he played some pretty good football.

It took him a while also.

Sep 9, 2011 at 10:03 AM

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LambdaChi49
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Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Steve Young is a smart guy...and he played some pretty good football.

It took him a while also.

True that.

Sep 9, 2011 at 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Steve Young is a smart guy...and he played some pretty good football.

It took him a while also.

It seems there is a correlation between wonderlic scores and NFL QB Performance:

the QBs who scored below the median Wonderlic score (for QBs) of 27 averaged 5,202 passing yards and 31.2 TDs over their first four years, whereas those scoring above the median averaged 6,570 yards and 40.8 TDs over the same period.

Source: http://blog.criteriacorp.com/2008/04/24/17/

Sep 9, 2011 at 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Shaj:
It seems there is a correlation between wonderlic scores and NFL QB Performance:

the QBs who scored below the median Wonderlic score (for QBs) of 27 averaged 5,202 passing yards and 31.2 TDs over their first four years, whereas those scoring above the median averaged 6,570 yards and 40.8 TDs over the same period.

Source: http://blog.criteriacorp.com/2008/04/24/17/

So you are saying alex smith will be good this year?

Sep 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM

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Shemp
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Originally posted by unst4bl3:

Originally posted by Shaj:
It seems there is a correlation between wonderlic scores and NFL QB Performance:

the QBs who scored below the median Wonderlic score (for QBs) of 27 averaged 5,202 passing yards and 31.2 TDs over their first four years, whereas those scoring above the median averaged 6,570 yards and 40.8 TDs over the same period.

Source: http://blog.criteriacorp.com/2008/04/24/17/

So you are saying alex smith will be good this year?

see that circle on the far bottom right of the graph? That would be Alex.

Sep 9, 2011 at 11:33 AM

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wysiwyg
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Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by unst4bl3:

Originally posted by Shaj:
It seems there is a correlation between wonderlic scores and NFL QB Performance:

the QBs who scored below the median Wonderlic score (for QBs) of 27 averaged 5,202 passing yards and 31.2 TDs over their first four years, whereas those scoring above the median averaged 6,570 yards and 40.8 TDs over the same period.

Source: http://blog.criteriacorp.com/2008/04/24/17/

So you are saying alex smith will be good this year?

see that circle on the far bottom right of the graph? That would be Alex.

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Steve Young is a smart guy...and he played some pretty good football.

It took him a while also.

It seems there is a correlation between wonderlic scores and NFL QB Performance:

the QBs who scored below the median Wonderlic score (for QBs) of 27 averaged 5,202 passing yards and 31.2 TDs over their first four years, whereas those scoring above the median averaged 6,570 yards and 40.8 TDs over the same period.

Source: http://blog.criteriacorp.com/2008/04/24/17/

Can anyone do a regression analysis of this and chart the chart line. Just eyeballing it, for those that played it looks like a trend line would be about a 45 degree angled line

Sep 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Can anyone do a regression analysis of this and chart the chart line. Just eyeballing it, for those that played it looks like a trend line would be about a 45 degree angled line

Originally posted by wysiwyg:

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by unst4bl3:

Originally posted by Shaj:
It seems there is a correlation between wonderlic scores and NFL QB Performance:

the QBs who scored below the median Wonderlic score (for QBs) of 27 averaged 5,202 passing yards and 31.2 TDs over their first four years, whereas those scoring above the median averaged 6,570 yards and 40.8 TDs over the same period.

Source: http://blog.criteriacorp.com/2008/04/24/17/

So you are saying alex smith will be good this year?

see that circle on the far bottom right of the graph? That would be Alex.

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Steve Young is a smart guy...and he played some pretty good football.

It took him a while also.

It seems there is a correlation between wonderlic scores and NFL QB Performance:

the QBs who scored below the median Wonderlic score (for QBs) of 27 averaged 5,202 passing yards and 31.2 TDs over their first four years, whereas those scoring above the median averaged 6,570 yards and 40.8 TDs over the same period.

Source: http://blog.criteriacorp.com/2008/04/24/17/

Can anyone do a regression analysis of this and chart the chart line. Just eyeballing it, for those that played it looks like a trend line would be about a 45 degree angled line

I would agree with that eyeball assessment.

Sep 9, 2011 at 12:52 PM

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Since brains are about 33% of what it takes to be a good qb, you still have to have the other 66%. Not every qb gets every trait. Ppl who are good in music are generally good in math but lack social skills hence, geeks. It is very rare when a person is completely well rounded. The same is true with qbs. Johnny Unitas and Dan Faust were great qbs but they were not fast. There are just too many variables to say that a high wonderlic score is an indication of a qb.

Sep 10, 2011 at 12:36 PM

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OptimusPrime52
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Originally posted by Paul:
And Dan Marino scored a 14

and how many lombardi trophies did he hoist? just saying.....