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Jan 21, 2011 at 2:57 PM
Originally posted by endcapitalism:
Originally posted by Ditto:
Originally posted by BobS:
Correct me if I am wrong, but both the Panthers and the Jaguars rose to quick success
after being expansion teams in 1995. I believe their success was helped immensely by high draft choices and more lenient salary cap restrictions than the other 30 teams had to abide to.

No. They were subject to the same salary cap each teams had to abide to. The only MAJOR difference is that they started off with a clean slate. The high draft didn't hurt, no doubt, but it was that clean slate that help them immediately by acquiring quality players from each team who had to subject 2-3 players for them to pick from/buld from.

No. They changed the supplemental draft rules for those two teams. After their great success the rules where changed again.

Funny you mentioned that considering both teams did not pick anyone on the supplemental draft that year. Only the Dallas Cowboys picked (Round 3/Darren Benson DT) that year. Are you talking about the Expansion Draft? That is totally different from the supplemental draft.

Oh, and to correct myself, 6 players from each teams were "available" for both the Jaguars and the Panthers to pick from.

Quote:
Existing NFL teams made six players available, and the new teams were required to pick a minimum of 30 and a maximum of 42 players.

That is how they built the foundation for both teams.
[ Edited by Ditto on Jan 21, 2011 at 3:01 PM ]
Jan 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM
Originally posted by FL9er:


WHOA!!!! FLASHBACK, this is one of the first plays I ever rmember was Terrell Owens taking that lil hitch all the way! Totally made by day, but after seeing how this game ended up how the hell did i become a niner fan.... lol
Jan 21, 2011 at 3:38 PM
Originally posted by whatawegot:
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
After learning of Seely's hire as special teams coach, I realized something that might have been glaringly obvious to everyone else:

Fangio, Roman and Seely were all part of the 1996 Carolina coaching staff that saw Carolina reach the NFC championship game in just their second season of existence.

This should bring some real hope to 49ers fans in terms of turnaround.

Outside of Harbaugh, these 3 coaches are by far the most important on staff. Their chemistry in working together in Carolina (Fangio/Roman even more recently at Stanford) will help this team expedite the adapting process. Instead of coaches having to adapt to each other's process/work ethic, we'll only have the players learning their process. This shouldn't be too hard because if there's one thing these players are used to, it's learning a new system.

If the 49ers get the right QB, I'm confident that we won't have to wait through the rigors of growing pains next year.

Here's to success right out of the gate

Ok. DREAM ON PAL>


Insightful retort. Did it take all 147 previous posts to work up to that?
Jan 21, 2011 at 3:46 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I'm afraid to hope anymore.
Jan 21, 2011 at 3:56 PM
Originally posted by FL9er:


Nice post - people think we've got cover problems now, that secondary was BAD. Man I miss that offense, though...
Jan 21, 2011 at 6:31 PM
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I don't know about you guys, but I'm afraid to hope anymore.
Jan 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM
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Originally posted by whatawegot:
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
After learning of Seely's hire as special teams coach, I realized something that might have been glaringly obvious to everyone else:

Fangio, Roman and Seely were all part of the 1996 Carolina coaching staff that saw Carolina reach the NFC championship game in just their second season of existence.

This should bring some real hope to 49ers fans in terms of turnaround.

Outside of Harbaugh, these 3 coaches are by far the most important on staff. Their chemistry in working together in Carolina (Fangio/Roman even more recently at Stanford) will help this team expedite the adapting process. Instead of coaches having to adapt to each other's process/work ethic, we'll only have the players learning their process. This shouldn't be too hard because if there's one thing these players are used to, it's learning a new system.

If the 49ers get the right QB, I'm confident that we won't have to wait through the rigors of growing pains next year.

Here's to success right out of the gate

Ok. DREAM ON PAL>

Jeez we've got a real pessimist on our hands right here. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the real reason behind a lot of these hires(by that I mean the work history they share) we really need to try and put together an extremely cohesive staff. Something which is obviously high on Harbaugh's priority an shown by the fact that we have 3 or 4 offensive line and TE coaches.
Jan 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
After learning of Seely's hire as special teams coach, I realized something that might have been glaringly obvious to everyone else:

Fangio, Roman and Seely were all part of the 1996 Carolina coaching staff that saw Carolina reach the NFC championship game in just their second season of existence.

This should bring some real hope to 49ers fans in terms of turnaround.

Outside of Harbaugh, these 3 coaches are by far the most important on staff. Their chemistry in working together in Carolina (Fangio/Roman even more recently at Stanford) will help this team expedite the adapting process. Instead of coaches having to adapt to each other's process/work ethic, we'll only have the players learning their process. This shouldn't be too hard because if there's one thing these players are used to, it's learning a new system.

If the 49ers get the right QB, I'm confident that we won't have to wait through the rigors of growing pains next year.

Here's to success right out of the gate
Jan 21, 2011 at 9:11 PM
The upstart Panthers rocking us out of nowhere way back...remember Kevin Greene putting Young on his back and Marquez Pope and Muhsin Muhammad battling it out on every play.
Jan 21, 2011 at 9:14 PM
Originally posted by thedude:
Originally posted by FL9er:


Nice post - people think we've got cover problems now, that secondary was BAD. Man I miss that offense, though...

We weren't that bad, 11th in pass Defense that year, the next year (97) we were #2, and the top defense overall. 1998, though, that's when the defense started declining fast.
[ Edited by KowboyKiller on Jan 21, 2011 at 9:20 PM ]
Jan 21, 2011 at 9:21 PM
whoa, bundy!
Jan 21, 2011 at 9:28 PM
Originally posted by NTeply49:
Originally posted by FL9er:


WHOA!!!! FLASHBACK, this is one of the first plays I ever rmember was Terrell Owens taking that lil hitch all the way! Totally made by day, but after seeing how this game ended up how the hell did i become a niner fan.... lol

Its just strange seeing our team have a winning record. Its been sooo long.
Jan 21, 2011 at 9:32 PM
Ah to see the Niners go 10-4 at week 15 would be a dream come true next season. That was nice to see despite them losing that game.
Jan 21, 2011 at 9:38 PM
Originally posted by digital9er:
Ah to see the Niners go 10-4 at week 15 would be a dream come true next season. That was nice to see despite them losing that game.

And in those days I would be pissed about losing those 4 games lol.
Jan 21, 2011 at 11:11 PM
i still remember tyrone drakeford getting f**king abused that game.

what is it about nobody receivers that has haunted us throughout the years? this happened even before we were bottom feeders. it always seemed like some dude out of NOWHERE torches us and then goes back to nowheresville for the rest of his career.
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